Megalodon electronics

Broko · 4th July 2006, 09:39

Hi all,
I am new to this forum so first, hello.
I am one of 3 soon to be CCR divers in the Interuniversity Institue of Eilat, ISRAEL.
we will use CCR's for Scientific research.
we are seriously considering getting the Meg but have a few questions for experienced users.
1. have you ever had problems with the meg elctronics during a dive?
2. would you think its better to use the hammerhead on the meg?
3. any problems with using the VR3 with the meg (CCR continous 02 mode of course).

thank you

**Steve** · 4th July 2006, 10:57

Quote: (Originally Posted by Broko)

Hi all,
I am new to this forum so first, hello.
I am one of 3 soon to be CCR divers in the Interuniversity Institue of Eilat, ISRAEL.
we will use CCR's for Scientific research.
we are seriously considering getting the Meg but have a few questions for experienced users.
1. have you ever had problems with the meg elctronics during a dive?
2. would you think its better to use the hammerhead on the meg?
3. any problems with using the VR3 with the meg (CCR continous 02 mode of course).

thank you

Hi Broko.

To answer your questions:
1. Never. Very solid set of electronics
2. Not on your life. Not a reliable set of electronics in my experience
3. More of a VR3 question, but I have not had a problem with the VR3 since the buttons were improved

JonnyB · 4th July 2006, 12:57

Quote: (Originally Posted by Steve)

3. More of a VR3 question, but I have not had a problem with the VR3 since the buttons were improved

Hi Steve, as i understand it, he wanted to know when having the VR3 plugged into the loop. The only good way to do that so far is when you have the shearwater.

/Jonny

**Steve** · 4th July 2006, 14:25

Quote: (Originally Posted by JonnyB)

Hi Steve, as i understand it, he wanted to know when having the VR3 plugged into the loop. The only good way to do that so far is when you have the shearwater.

/Jonny

Ah OK. I don't see the value in plumbing in VR3s to any CCR. Even on a longish 75m 3 hour dive the difference between a plumbed in and a stand alone VR3 is only a couple of minutes. It just ins't worth the hassle to me.

Broko · 4th July 2006, 14:35

ok guys 3 questions then

1. what is the shearwater
2. if the vr3 is not in the loop and works as with OC how do you keep it going with your changing po2?
3. Steve, in your opinion all deco software hot wired to the loop are redundant?

**Steve** · 4th July 2006, 14:47

Quote: (Originally Posted by Broko)

ok guys 3 questions then

1. what is the shearwater
2. if the vr3 is not in the loop and works as with OC how do you keep it going with your changing po2?
3. Steve, in your opinion all deco software hot wired to the loop are redundant?

1. The Shearwater is an electronics package that can replace the standard ISC APECS electronics. Lots of guys love them. I have not used them.

2. I'm not sure if I'm following you correctly but The VR3 can be set to a fixed pO2 (you can change this whilst diving) so that it in effect operates just like if it is in a plumbed in mode. You need a pin number to activate this.

3. Not at all. Live deco info can be handy but I don't think it is necessarily as wonderful as the brochures would have us believe. All of the models on the market have had a few issues. Some more than others. I'm still in the camp of choosing the tables I want to follow and not having all my eggs in one basket.

Broko · 4th July 2006, 14:56

fair dinkum???
didn't know the VR3 can do that...
I 'm going back to the manual and to play with the comp.

cheers

***Decodiver*** · 4th July 2006, 15:56

I agree with everything said by Steve here.

Meg leccies on Apecs 2 are very very good, I had a problem with the Shearwater but that has been remedied.

Would not tuch the HH with a very very long pole, no disrespect to KJ, just think it is a waste of time IMHO and before anyone starts, it's my opinion and I'll use it as I want.

No point in plugging in a VR3 as Steve rightly said difference between plugged and unplugged is minute. But with plugged you have something else to calibrate etc etc.

The Meg is a great CCR you will not be disappointed.

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

dave t · 4th July 2006, 16:00

the Shearwater is also a very nice dive computer ( I know cos I have got one) which also can be plugged into the loop if you want.

the deco bit may or may not be valid but sometimes its nice to have a seperate forth cell readout, even if you do have to calibrate it

4th July 2006, 09:39	#1 (permalink)
Broko New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Eilat, Red Sea Israel Posts: 23	Megalodon electronics Hi all, I am new to this forum so first, hello. I am one of 3 soon to be CCR divers in the Interuniversity Institue of Eilat, ISRAEL. we will use CCR's for Scientific research. we are seriously considering getting the Meg but have a few questions for experienced users. 1. have you ever had problems with the meg elctronics during a dive? 2. would you think its better to use the hammerhead on the meg? 3. any problems with using the VR3 with the meg (CCR continous 02 mode of course). thank you
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4th July 2006, 10:57	#2 (permalink)
Steve Ladies bring a plate Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth - Australia Posts: 1,094	Re: Megalodon electronics Quote: (Originally Posted by Broko) Hi all, I am new to this forum so first, hello. I am one of 3 soon to be CCR divers in the Interuniversity Institue of Eilat, ISRAEL. we will use CCR's for Scientific research. we are seriously considering getting the Meg but have a few questions for experienced users. 1. have you ever had problems with the meg elctronics during a dive? 2. would you think its better to use the hammerhead on the meg? 3. any problems with using the VR3 with the meg (CCR continous 02 mode of course). thank you Hi Broko. To answer your questions: 1. Never. Very solid set of electronics 2. Not on your life. Not a reliable set of electronics in my experience 3. More of a VR3 question, but I have not had a problem with the VR3 since the buttons were improved __________________ WARNING: I contain occasional coarse language, extreme sexual references, nudity, and adult themes, which may offend some people - Usually churchy types.
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4th July 2006, 12:57	#3 (permalink)
JonnyB Johnny The Hatch Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Titan Other CCR Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Megalodon Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other CCR Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweden (Stockholm)/Cyprus(Ayia Napa) Posts: 956	Re: Megalodon electronics Quote: (Originally Posted by Steve) 3. More of a VR3 question, but I have not had a problem with the VR3 since the buttons were improved Hi Steve, as i understand it, he wanted to know when having the VR3 plugged into the loop. The only good way to do that so far is when you have the shearwater. /Jonny __________________ A quote from Crazyduck - In remembering our own Rob Davies. "Outbound flight 777 heavy you are cleared for flight Due west into that warm red Texas sunset You have angels on your wings and divers memories on your six." Rest In Peace http://www.divetekcyprus.com http://www.diveccr.com
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4th July 2006, 14:25	#4 (permalink)
Steve Ladies bring a plate Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth - Australia Posts: 1,094	Re: Megalodon electronics Quote: (Originally Posted by JonnyB) Hi Steve, as i understand it, he wanted to know when having the VR3 plugged into the loop. The only good way to do that so far is when you have the shearwater. /Jonny Ah OK. I don't see the value in plumbing in VR3s to any CCR. Even on a longish 75m 3 hour dive the difference between a plumbed in and a stand alone VR3 is only a couple of minutes. It just ins't worth the hassle to me. __________________ WARNING: I contain occasional coarse language, extreme sexual references, nudity, and adult themes, which may offend some people - Usually churchy types.
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4th July 2006, 14:35	#5 (permalink)
Broko New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Eilat, Red Sea Israel Posts: 23	Re: Megalodon electronics ok guys 3 questions then 1. what is the shearwater 2. if the vr3 is not in the loop and works as with OC how do you keep it going with your changing po2? 3. Steve, in your opinion all deco software hot wired to the loop are redundant? __________________ Eran Brokovich Marine Twilight-Zone Research & Exploration - MTRX The Interuniversity Institute for Marine Sciences of Eilat (IUI). H. Steinitz Marine Biology Laboratory. Tel: +972-8-6360-157 P.O. Box 469 Eilat 88103 Israel
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4th July 2006, 14:47	#6 (permalink)
Steve Ladies bring a plate Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth - Australia Posts: 1,094	Re: Megalodon electronics Quote: (Originally Posted by Broko) ok guys 3 questions then 1. what is the shearwater 2. if the vr3 is not in the loop and works as with OC how do you keep it going with your changing po2? 3. Steve, in your opinion all deco software hot wired to the loop are redundant? 1. The Shearwater is an electronics package that can replace the standard ISC APECS electronics. Lots of guys love them. I have not used them. 2. I'm not sure if I'm following you correctly but The VR3 can be set to a fixed pO2 (you can change this whilst diving) so that it in effect operates just like if it is in a plumbed in mode. You need a pin number to activate this. 3. Not at all. Live deco info can be handy but I don't think it is necessarily as wonderful as the brochures would have us believe. All of the models on the market have had a few issues. Some more than others. I'm still in the camp of choosing the tables I want to follow and not having all my eggs in one basket. __________________ WARNING: I contain occasional coarse language, extreme sexual references, nudity, and adult themes, which may offend some people - Usually churchy types.
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4th July 2006, 14:56	#7 (permalink)
Broko New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Eilat, Red Sea Israel Posts: 23	Re: Megalodon electronics fair dinkum??? didn't know the VR3 can do that... I 'm going back to the manual and to play with the comp. cheers __________________ Eran Brokovich Marine Twilight-Zone Research & Exploration - MTRX The Interuniversity Institute for Marine Sciences of Eilat (IUI). H. Steinitz Marine Biology Laboratory. Tel: +972-8-6360-157 P.O. Box 469 Eilat 88103 Israel
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4th July 2006, 15:56	#8 (permalink)
*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Ouroboros rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,178	Re: Megalodon electronics I agree with everything said by Steve here. Meg leccies on Apecs 2 are very very good, I had a problem with the Shearwater but that has been remedied. Would not tuch the HH with a very very long pole, no disrespect to KJ, just think it is a waste of time IMHO and before anyone starts, it's my opinion and I'll use it as I want. No point in plugging in a VR3 as Steve rightly said difference between plugged and unplugged is minute. But with plugged you have something else to calibrate etc etc. The Meg is a great CCR you will not be disappointed. Cheers, Dave Cooper. __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions Last edited by Decodiver : 4th July 2006 at 15:58.
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4th July 2006, 16:00	#9 (permalink)
dave t Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Dolphin Ray Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Ray Azimuth Home Build Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts: 651	Re: Megalodon electronics the Shearwater is also a very nice dive computer ( I know cos I have got one) which also can be plugged into the loop if you want. the deco bit may or may not be valid but sometimes its nice to have a seperate forth cell readout, even if you do have to calibrate it
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