Meg Lungs

Padowan · 7th May 2005, 20:54

I've seen photos of the Meg with Neoprene lungs, which look nice and neat - however the photos of DecoDiver and Stuarts Megs I see you've both got the "Ballistic Nylon" ones, which look a lot less neat, and more cluttered with all those external seams

Are the Neoprene lungs available, or are the Nylon ones considered "better" for some reason?

The more I read about the Meg, the more I want to ditch the YBOD and get one!!

***schford*** · 7th May 2005, 21:00

Yup Neoprene are available, I believe Dave has some on order.

Nice thing seems to be they are more streamlined, down side is they are less tear resistant and become porous to gases like He when they age....So you get slightly less cluster but have to change them periodically.

Most counter lungs are more streamlined than mine - Leon had to open up the sides of mine as I have such big lungs...

Interesting thing to note is that leon uses ballistic nylon not neoprene....

Stuart

***Decodiver*** · 7th May 2005, 21:10

Quote: (Originally Posted by Padowan)

I've seen photos of the Meg with Neoprene lungs, which look nice and neat - however the photos of DecoDiver and Stuarts Megs I see you've both got the "Ballistic Nylon" ones, which look a lot less neat, and more cluttered with all those external seams

Are the Neoprene lungs available, or are the Nylon ones considered "better" for some reason?

The more I read about the Meg, the more I want to ditch the YBOD and get one!!

All points covered by Stuart above really, Leon is currently looking for a suitable supply of neoprene for the lungs and I should have mine shortly along with my Cis scrubber.

Padowan, if you are seriously considering a Meg, you can always come have a look at mine.

I can also do you a crossover in the UK if you decide to go that way.

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

Padowan · 7th May 2005, 21:10

What's the volume of the (standard) Meg lungs? The Inspo lungs are a ridiculous volume - Looking at the manual it says that a set of medium YBOD lungs have a volume of about 11.4 litres a pair, and the large are 14 litres! That seems like a huge amount of unnecessary compressible loop volume. Not surprising that lots of people run a long way from minimum loop volume with that amount of space to play with!

***caveseeker7*** · 7th May 2005, 21:13

On the price list I picked up at DEMA the neoprene lungs are listed with a MSRP or $660.

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***Decodiver*** · 7th May 2005, 21:14

Quote: (Originally Posted by Padowan)

What's the volume of the (standard) Meg lungs? The Inspo lungs are a ridiculous volume - Looking at the manual it says that a set of medium YBOD lungs have a volume of about 11.4 litres a pair, and the large are 14 litres! That seems like a huge amount of unnecessary compressible loop volume. Not surprising that lots of people run a long way from minimum loop volume with that amount of space to play with!

7 litres is what you get, though this can be made smaller where necessary or larger as in Stuart's case by sewing down or opening up the lungs.

Cheers,

Dave Cooper

Padowan · 7th May 2005, 21:18

Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7)

On the price list I picked up at DEMA the neoprene lungs are listed with a MSRP or $660.

Your future is bright, your future is ...

Signature changed accordingly!!!!

dive2dive2000 · 7th May 2005, 21:44

Another down side (so I am told)

is the neoprene will develop an odor after several uses regardles of how you clean them.

Martin

Quote: (Originally Posted by schford)

Yup Neoprene are available, I believe Dave has some on order.

Nice thing seems to be they are more streamlined, down side is they are less tear resistant and become porous to gases like He when they age....So you get slightly less cluster but have to change them periodically.

Most counter lungs are more streamlined than mine - Leon had to open up the sides of mine as I have such big lungs...

Interesting thing to note is that leon uses ballistic nylon not neoprene....

Stuart

Ken · 7th May 2005, 22:16

Having tried the neoprene lungs I found them comfortable, easy to breathe...not crunchy like Insp. lungs. However, they seemed slightly buoyant. I spoke with Steve at the Meg. hatchery and he told me about processes needed to make a set of lungs - a huge amount of time and labor! Something on the order of an entire week to produce a set. I guess when you add up : easier to tear, stinky, prone to diffusion and expensive the choice becomes clear. On a comical side the neoprene lungs made the Meg. look like "Snoopy" from a distance.

cedricverdier · 8th May 2005, 06:03

I tried the Neoprene lungs on Tom Mount's Meg and they are really streamlined. (Maybe even too small...)

But they are very prone to tears and pucture and Tom told me that he has to send them back to the factory when he needs some repairs. No big problem if you live in the States.

Living very far from the US, I chose the standard CLs as they are more abrasion-proof.

Cheers

7th May 2005, 20:54	#1 (permalink)
Padowan RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Exeter, UK. Posts: 526	Meg Lungs I've seen photos of the Meg with Neoprene lungs, which look nice and neat - however the photos of DecoDiver and Stuarts Megs I see you've both got the "Ballistic Nylon" ones, which look a lot less neat, and more cluttered with all those external seams Are the Neoprene lungs available, or are the Nylon ones considered "better" for some reason? The more I read about the Meg, the more I want to ditch the YBOD and get one!! __________________ Padowan The future's bright, the future's Yellow .....for now padowan.net - Latest Video: Scapa Flow Rebreather Diving
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7th May 2005, 21:00	#2 (permalink)
*schford* RBW Founder Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,564	Yup Neoprene are available, I believe Dave has some on order. Nice thing seems to be they are more streamlined, down side is they are less tear resistant and become porous to gases like He when they age....So you get slightly less cluster but have to change them periodically. Most counter lungs are more streamlined than mine - Leon had to open up the sides of mine as I have such big lungs... Interesting thing to note is that leon uses ballistic nylon not neoprene.... Stuart
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7th May 2005, 21:10	#3 (permalink)
*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,194	Quote: (Originally Posted by Padowan) I've seen photos of the Meg with Neoprene lungs, which look nice and neat - however the photos of DecoDiver and Stuarts Megs I see you've both got the "Ballistic Nylon" ones, which look a lot less neat, and more cluttered with all those external seams Are the Neoprene lungs available, or are the Nylon ones considered "better" for some reason? The more I read about the Meg, the more I want to ditch the YBOD and get one!! All points covered by Stuart above really, Leon is currently looking for a suitable supply of neoprene for the lungs and I should have mine shortly along with my Cis scrubber. Padowan, if you are seriously considering a Meg, you can always come have a look at mine. I can also do you a crossover in the UK if you decide to go that way. Cheers, Dave Cooper. __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions
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7th May 2005, 21:10	#4 (permalink)
Padowan RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Exeter, UK. Posts: 526	What's the volume of the (standard) Meg lungs? The Inspo lungs are a ridiculous volume - Looking at the manual it says that a set of medium YBOD lungs have a volume of about 11.4 litres a pair, and the large are 14 litres! That seems like a huge amount of unnecessary compressible loop volume. Not surprising that lots of people run a long way from minimum loop volume with that amount of space to play with! __________________ Padowan The future's bright, the future's Yellow .....for now padowan.net - Latest Video: Scapa Flow Rebreather Diving
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7th May 2005, 21:14	#6 (permalink)
*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,194	Quote: (Originally Posted by Padowan) What's the volume of the (standard) Meg lungs? The Inspo lungs are a ridiculous volume - Looking at the manual it says that a set of medium YBOD lungs have a volume of about 11.4 litres a pair, and the large are 14 litres! That seems like a huge amount of unnecessary compressible loop volume. Not surprising that lots of people run a long way from minimum loop volume with that amount of space to play with! 7 litres is what you get, though this can be made smaller where necessary or larger as in Stuart's case by sewing down or opening up the lungs. Cheers, Dave Cooper __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions
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7th May 2005, 21:18	#7 (permalink)
Padowan RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Exeter, UK. Posts: 526	Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7) On the price list I picked up at DEMA the neoprene lungs are listed with a MSRP or $660. Your future is bright, your future is ... Signature changed accordingly!!!! __________________ Padowan The future's bright, the future's Yellow .....for now padowan.net - Latest Video: Scapa Flow Rebreather Diving
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7th May 2005, 21:44	#8 (permalink)
dive2dive2000 PRISM DIVER & LUVIN IT! Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 796	Another down side (so I am told) is the neoprene will develop an odor after several uses regardles of how you clean them. Martin Quote: (Originally Posted by schford) Yup Neoprene are available, I believe Dave has some on order. Nice thing seems to be they are more streamlined, down side is they are less tear resistant and become porous to gases like He when they age....So you get slightly less cluster but have to change them periodically. Most counter lungs are more streamlined than mine - Leon had to open up the sides of mine as I have such big lungs... Interesting thing to note is that leon uses ballistic nylon not neoprene.... Stuart
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7th May 2005, 22:16	#9 (permalink)
Ken Team Torrent Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Classic Kiss Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 331	Having tried the neoprene lungs I found them comfortable, easy to breathe...not crunchy like Insp. lungs. However, they seemed slightly buoyant. I spoke with Steve at the Meg. hatchery and he told me about processes needed to make a set of lungs - a huge amount of time and labor! Something on the order of an entire week to produce a set. I guess when you add up : easier to tear, stinky, prone to diffusion and expensive the choice becomes clear. On a comical side the neoprene lungs made the Meg. look like "Snoopy" from a distance.
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8th May 2005, 06:03	#10 (permalink)
cedricverdier S21 M.I.B. Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Worldwide! Posts: 498	I tried the Neoprene lungs on Tom Mount's Meg and they are really streamlined. (Maybe even too small...) But they are very prone to tears and pucture and Tom told me that he has to send them back to the factory when he needs some repairs. No big problem if you live in the States. Living very far from the US, I chose the standard CLs as they are more abrasion-proof. Cheers __________________ Cedric Verdier PADI Course Director, ANDI-IANTD-PSAI-TDI-DSAT-DAN-NAUI-CMAS Instructor Trainer Trimix (CCR and OC) and Cave Diving Instructor Trainer www.CedricVerdier.com DIRrebreather member
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