Shearwater

caveseeker7

My wrong, I wasn't aware the Shearwater was a downgrade from the APECS.
Am not sure why, but I thought ISC charged a couple of thou extra for them.

Thanks for the picture, looking at it I don't quite understand why someone would consider it "an electronics problem". Looks like a corrosion problem to me.

When hearing "electronics problem" I think of the controller/computer hard- and software, not the peripheral bits like wires and connectors that should be replacable, if not by the owner then by the factory.

In which case I still don't understand why the Shearwater is "unsupported".

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trob09

They did. Shearwater was an additional $2,000 at the time I bought my meg. With the falling out between ISC and Bruce, I think that Leon would prefer to have ISC hardware and software in every meg. ISC referred to the APECS 2 replacement as an upgrade. I see it as a downgrade.

I agree that it probably a wiring/corrosion problem in this case.

The reason I was using this particular unit was that my Shearwater failed pretty significantly. The handset would not start-up, display any information or fire the solenoid. The HUD worked, but needless to say, I wasn't going to dive it like that. So I sent my unit back to Leon and borrowed the one that Chuck now owns from the previous owner. ISC replaced my electronics with new shearwater ones, but stopped offering shearwater shortly after that. My replacement shearwater electronics have worked just fine since then (150 ~ 200 hrs.)

I have no doubt that if the same thing were to happen now, my choices would be APECS 2 or Kevin J for Hammerhead.

If it's a simple thing like wiring, I'm sure you could get ISC to fix it. If there was a more significant problem (like the one I had) it would be the end of the shearwater electronics on that unit. I believe that Leon would offer some sort of discount for swapping out to APECS, but that's a lot different from supporting the shearwater electronics.

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diverklondike

" I believe that Leon would offer some sort of discount for swapping out to APECS, but that's a lot different from supporting the shearwater electronics."


hmmmmmm a discount for a swap out that is a down grade in capability that you had to pay an extra 2k to get....

btw... My intent is also not to knock Leon.... It just seems that there are a fair number of divers that have been left hanging here...

trob09

I don't know that Leon would charge _anything_ for the swap-out. I have not had the conversation with him, so I don't know. This is all speculation. My comment should be read as "I don't believe Leon is going to charge you full retail for replacing Shearwater electronics with APECS".

I'm not trying to bad-mouth Leon, he's done right by me every time. I do recognize - however - that my electronics are no longer supported by ISC. And that's too bad...

caveseeker7

Thanks for clearing that up.

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wedivebc

A non working Shearwater to a working APECS is an upgrade

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Ken

This particular Shearwater head reminds me of someone who has been around the block a few times. She'll work, but often throws a hissy-fit. Knowing some of its history and the propensity for weird readings I'd look hard at the "newer" model. However, I have to say I really like my functioning Shearwater head.


Chronology may be a factor here? My Shearwater head was probably made sometime in June or July of 05'. The ones in question seem to have been manufactured earlier? If anything, ISC's has excellent customer service.

decoweenie

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My Shearwater has been working great since i got it April last year. Its done over 300 hours without a hitch(touch wood). I was told that is they did go they could be replace by the APECS 2 or when the APECS 3 is ready free of charge. As i have spent $2000 extra for the Shearwater i would expect an upgrade to the APECS 3 free of charge!!!

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Steve

Can anyone think of an industry that does this? A company that researches then implements a software and hardware upgrade and then passes it on to their customers free of charge? I wish I could get same deal on computers and cars etc

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