Manta Counter Lungs (BMCL)

dykkermads · 22nd June 2009, 07:24

Quote: (Originally Posted by netmage)

Not understanding why they cost so much.....

You're right. It seems like a joke to charge so much for this product for allready existing custoumers.

Rob Dobson · 22nd June 2009, 09:27

Quote: (Originally Posted by dykkermads)

You're right. It seems like a joke to charge so much for this product for allready existing custoumers.

It's a lot cheaper than buying a different unit, which is the other way of getting BMCLs.

netmage · 22nd June 2009, 13:42

Quote: (Originally Posted by dykkermads)

You're right. It seems like a joke to charge so much for this product for allready existing custoumers.

Quote: (Originally Posted by Rob Dobson)

It's a lot cheaper than buying a different unit, which is the other way of getting BMCLs.

Unless I'm missing things... (which is entirely possible - as I haven't seen a set in person...)

It consists of a cordura type bag w/ an inner bladder - not unlike a wing... ($300), 2 x ADV shells (I assume no plunger - $210 each MSRP), 2 inner T shells, 4 LP hoses, and 2 addition valves... its making a bit more sense how they got in the ballpark, would think there is an easier way to get LP gas into the lung - i.e. porting the T..

mountain diver · 22nd June 2009, 14:10

Quote: (Originally Posted by netmage)

Unless I'm missing things... (which is entirely possible - as I haven't seen a set in person...)

It consists of a cordura type bag w/ an inner bladder - not unlike a wing... ($300), 2 x ADV shells (I assume no plunger - $210 each MSRP), 2 inner T shells, 4 LP hoses, and 2 addition valves... its making a bit more sense how they got in the ballpark, would think there is an easier way to get LP gas into the lung - i.e. porting the T..

My understanding of the lung is it has dual bladders, (inhale-exhale),
as for porting the tee pieces, do able but.... would think it causes more
problems then it solves, just a thought.

sensor330 · 23rd June 2009, 03:10

Quote: (Originally Posted by dykkermads)

You're right. It seems like a joke to charge so much for this product for allready existing custoumers.

Yes it expensive. If people are willing to pay that price then are they really too expensive; or are we just cheap? I think it's a little of both.

I would also like to get a set but for that price I'll be sticking with the ones I got. Perhaps if they don't sell as many as they though they'll lower the price but I'm not holding my breath.

Scott

Johnny Bekkestad · 23rd June 2009, 06:37

Quote: (Originally Posted by sensor330)

Yes it expensive. If people are willing to pay that price then are they really too expensive; or are we just cheap? I think it's a little of both.

I would also like to get a set but for that price I'll be sticking with the ones I got. Perhaps if they don't sell as many as they though they'll lower the price but I'm not holding my breath.

Scott

It is expensive, though it is not noteable more expensive than the ones offered by GolemGear.

/Jonny

Mikel-Deko · 23rd June 2009, 08:02

Quote: (Originally Posted by JonnyB)

It is expensive, though it is not noteable more expensive than the ones offered by GolemGear.

/Jonny

... wich are also very expensive...

Johnny Bekkestad · 23rd June 2009, 13:14

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mikel-Deko)

... wich are also very expensive...

I totaly AGREE!

Pelagian · 26th June 2009, 19:42

So it's back to manual dil add only. I can live with that. It looks an extremely sexy piece of kit and it will be great to have my chest clear without increasing my back profile.

Two questions:

1) Are the inner bags made of cordura or urethane?

2) Do the CE and EU regs require and ADV?

Can't wait to get my hands on one of these.

Way to go ISC.

Seb

6Gill · 29th June 2009, 15:20

The inner bladders are urethane.

EN14143 doesn't specfically call for an ADV but states that the apparatus must be able to maintain breathable volume and if an automatic device fails it requires the ablility to manually add breathable gas. An ADV is implied.

Quote: (Originally Posted by Pelagian)

So it's back to manual dil add only. I can live with that. It looks an extremely sexy piece of kit and it will be great to have my chest clear without increasing my back profile.

Two questions:

1) Are the inner bags made of cordura or urethane?

2) Do the CE and EU regs require and ADV?

Can't wait to get my hands on one of these.

Way to go ISC.

Seb

22nd June 2009, 07:24	#41 (permalink)
dykkermads UNI-Lung Diver Megalodon Apeks 2.7 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denmark Posts: 147	Re: Manta Counter Lungs (BMCL) Quote: (Originally Posted by netmage) Not understanding why they cost so much..... You're right. It seems like a joke to charge so much for this product for allready existing custoumers.
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22nd June 2009, 09:27	#42 (permalink)
Rob Dobson RBW Member JJ-CCR MEG (COPIS II) Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Oxford Posts: 236	Re: Manta Counter Lungs (BMCL) Quote: (Originally Posted by dykkermads) You're right. It seems like a joke to charge so much for this product for allready existing custoumers. It's a lot cheaper than buying a different unit, which is the other way of getting BMCLs.
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22nd June 2009, 13:42	#43 (permalink)
netmage Tim Owens Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 1,263	Re: Manta Counter Lungs (BMCL) Quote: (Originally Posted by dykkermads) You're right. It seems like a joke to charge so much for this product for allready existing custoumers. Quote: (Originally Posted by Rob Dobson) It's a lot cheaper than buying a different unit, which is the other way of getting BMCLs. Unless I'm missing things... (which is entirely possible - as I haven't seen a set in person...) It consists of a cordura type bag w/ an inner bladder - not unlike a wing... ($300), 2 x ADV shells (I assume no plunger - $210 each MSRP), 2 inner T shells, 4 LP hoses, and 2 addition valves... its making a bit more sense how they got in the ballpark, would think there is an easier way to get LP gas into the lung - i.e. porting the T..
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22nd June 2009, 14:10	#44 (permalink)
mountain diver Silent Lucidity Megalodon Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 540	Re: Manta Counter Lungs (BMCL) Quote: (Originally Posted by netmage) Unless I'm missing things... (which is entirely possible - as I haven't seen a set in person...) It consists of a cordura type bag w/ an inner bladder - not unlike a wing... ($300), 2 x ADV shells (I assume no plunger - $210 each MSRP), 2 inner T shells, 4 LP hoses, and 2 addition valves... its making a bit more sense how they got in the ballpark, would think there is an easier way to get LP gas into the lung - i.e. porting the T.. My understanding of the lung is it has dual bladders, (inhale-exhale), as for porting the tee pieces, do able but.... would think it causes more problems then it solves, just a thought.
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23rd June 2009, 03:10	#45 (permalink)
sensor330 RBW Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Whitby, Ontario, Canada Posts: 786	Re: Manta Counter Lungs (BMCL) Quote: (Originally Posted by dykkermads) You're right. It seems like a joke to charge so much for this product for allready existing custoumers. Yes it expensive. If people are willing to pay that price then are they really too expensive; or are we just cheap? I think it's a little of both. I would also like to get a set but for that price I'll be sticking with the ones I got. Perhaps if they don't sell as many as they though they'll lower the price but I'm not holding my breath. Scott
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23rd June 2009, 06:37	#46 (permalink)
Johnny Bekkestad Johnny The Hatch CCR2000, Megalodon, Homebuilt Norge, FGT, mk15, KISS, Inspo Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweden (Stockholm)/USA (Ft. Lauderdale, FL)/Cyprus(Ayia Napa) Posts: 1,173	Re: Manta Counter Lungs (BMCL) Quote: (Originally Posted by sensor330) Yes it expensive. If people are willing to pay that price then are they really too expensive; or are we just cheap? I think it's a little of both. I would also like to get a set but for that price I'll be sticking with the ones I got. Perhaps if they don't sell as many as they though they'll lower the price but I'm not holding my breath. Scott It is expensive, though it is not noteable more expensive than the ones offered by GolemGear. /Jonny
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23rd June 2009, 08:02	#47 (permalink)
Mikel-Deko RBW Member Megalodon/joki Dolphin, inspiration Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Basque Country -Sp- Posts: 689	Re: Manta Counter Lungs (BMCL) Quote: (Originally Posted by JonnyB) It is expensive, though it is not noteable more expensive than the ones offered by GolemGear. /Jonny ... wich are also very expensive...
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23rd June 2009, 13:14	#48 (permalink)
Johnny Bekkestad Johnny The Hatch CCR2000, Megalodon, Homebuilt Norge, FGT, mk15, KISS, Inspo Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweden (Stockholm)/USA (Ft. Lauderdale, FL)/Cyprus(Ayia Napa) Posts: 1,173	Re: Manta Counter Lungs (BMCL) Quote: (Originally Posted by Mikel-Deko) ... wich are also very expensive... I totaly AGREE!
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26th June 2009, 19:42	#49 (permalink)
Pelagian Deep Smeg Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Leeds, England Posts: 411	Re: Manta Counter Lungs (BMCL) So it's back to manual dil add only. I can live with that. It looks an extremely sexy piece of kit and it will be great to have my chest clear without increasing my back profile. Two questions: 1) Are the inner bags made of cordura or urethane? 2) Do the CE and EU regs require and ADV? Can't wait to get my hands on one of these. Way to go ISC. Seb
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29th June 2009, 15:20	#50 (permalink)
6Gill New Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 135	Re: Manta Counter Lungs (BMCL) The inner bladders are urethane. EN14143 doesn't specfically call for an ADV but states that the apparatus must be able to maintain breathable volume and if an automatic device fails it requires the ablility to manually add breathable gas. An ADV is implied. Quote: (Originally Posted by Pelagian) So it's back to manual dil add only. I can live with that. It looks an extremely sexy piece of kit and it will be great to have my chest clear without increasing my back profile. Two questions: 1) Are the inner bags made of cordura or urethane? 2) Do the CE and EU regs require and ADV? Can't wait to get my hands on one of these. Way to go ISC. Seb __________________ "It's a shame ignorance isn't painful!"
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