ISC and the Meg get ISO accreditation

***Decodiver*** · 17th March 2005, 16:07

Very good news.

cedricverdier · 14th April 2005, 16:44

Quote: (Originally Posted by schford)

Release below
******************

Leon asked me to mention that we have a new method of calibration we
have developed that uses no appreciable amount of oxygen, is fast and
easy to perform, and is accurate. If you go to the show Leon can
demonstrate the methodology. We will soon be providing this system of
calibration as an option for the MEG. Again, price and availability is
TBD.

Steve Stolen, VP, ISC
Caretaker of the MEG Hatchery

Hi

Does anybody get any information about this method of calibration? Less O2 wasted for calibration sounds good to me.

Cheers

USSMEG · 14th April 2005, 17:52

Leon showed me how to do it at BTS show, With the head removed. You regulate the O/2 at 4 liters and put it into the top (with a hose in the middle of a cap) of the center hose connection and cap off the bottom, where you would have the connection to the canister, below the sensors. In 2 minute or less its done. He is working on more Caps and plugs to Kit it up for everyone to do it.
And off the tube for the oneway valve you put a hose to an O/2 Anayzer and can double check your readings.
He's (Leon) Very slick!
Paul

***caveseeker7*** · 14th April 2005, 18:05

That is very slick. And I like the idea of an attachment for secondary measurement.

***schford*** · 14th April 2005, 20:50

I got the kit off Leon,

its so easy to use and is done in like a minute - will post piccies when I got home.

I know I know along with a breakdown of the Meg

Stuart

Marvintpa · 15th April 2005, 12:17

Just outta curiosity, what is the perceived value of the ISO certification?

***caveseeker7*** · 15th April 2005, 15:11

I don't know what the perceived value is, but the real value is that you can sell to markets that require it.

It's like having a tank with DOT stamp in the US (vs. CE or TÜV). You can own and use the latter, but will have a hard time getting them inspected, filled, and it's illegal to cross state lines with anything but an empty tank. They are not better or worse, they just lack DOT approval.

BoF · 16th April 2005, 02:53

ISO 9000 is a quality assurance system that is regularly audited internally and by a third party. No markets require this for the equipment to be used. Indeed this kind of system is in place in all sorts of organisations from factories to software companies even government.

DOT and CE certification is quite different.

Bo

cedricverdier · 16th April 2005, 16:42

Quote: (Originally Posted by USSMEG)

Leon showed me how to do it at BTS show, With the head removed. You regulate the O/2 at 4 liters and put it into the top (with a hose in the middle of a cap) of the center hose connection and cap off the bottom, where you would have the connection to the canister, below the sensors. In 2 minute or less its done. He is working on more Caps and plugs to Kit it up for everyone to do it.
And off the tube for the oneway valve you put a hose to an O/2 Anayzer and can double check your readings.
He's (Leon) Very slick!
Paul

Please could you post some pics of the kit? Any idea of the price?

Cheers

***schford*** · 16th April 2005, 17:53

Hi Cedric,

Will do it when I get home - kit consists of:

Machined Plug for opening between head and scrubber
Extra Dust Cap for top of head
Tubing which fits through dust cap and into sensor area
Flow reducer & connection on end of tubing to connect into LP O2
Surgical tubing to connect to one way valve out of head to allow indpendant O2 analysier to be fitted.

Not sure about prices but not expensive.

Stuart

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cedricverdier S21 M.I.B. Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Worldwide! Posts: 488	News about the Meg Quote: (Originally Posted by schford) Release below **************** Leon asked me to mention that we have a new method of calibration we have developed that uses no appreciable amount of oxygen, is fast and easy to perform, and is accurate. If you go to the show Leon can demonstrate the methodology. We will soon be providing this system of calibration as an option for the MEG. Again, price and availability is TBD. Steve Stolen, VP, ISC Caretaker of the MEG Hatchery Hi Does anybody get any information about this method of calibration? Less O2 wasted for calibration sounds good to me. Cheers __________________ Cedric Verdier** PADI Course Director, ANDI-IANTD-PSAI-TDI-DSAT-DAN-NAUI-CMAS Instructor Trainer Trimix (CCR and OC) and Cave Diving Instructor Trainer www.CedricVerdier.com DIRrebreather member
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USSMEG USSMEG Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mass Posts: 271	Calibration Leon showed me how to do it at BTS show, With the head removed. You regulate the O/2 at 4 liters and put it into the top (with a hose in the middle of a cap) of the center hose connection and cap off the bottom, where you would have the connection to the canister, below the sensors. In 2 minute or less its done. He is working on more Caps and plugs to Kit it up for everyone to do it. And off the tube for the oneway valve you put a hose to an O/2 Anayzer and can double check your readings. He's (Leon) Very slick! Paul
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*schford* Despotic Overlord Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,662	I got the kit off Leon, its so easy to use and is done in like a minute - will post piccies when I got home. I know I know along with a breakdown of the Meg Stuart
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Marvintpa Bad knees, matching brain Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 232	Value Just outta curiosity, what is the perceived value of the ISO certification?
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*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,318	I don't know what the perceived value is, but the real value is that you can sell to markets that require it. It's like having a tank with DOT stamp in the US (vs. CE or TÜV). You can own and use the latter, but will have a hard time getting them inspected, filled, and it's illegal to cross state lines with anything but an empty tank. They are not better or worse, they just lack DOT approval. __________________ Cheers Stefan "It is still a good day if you are on the green side of the grass! Su amigo Roberto!" Sponsor Lou in Race For Life!
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BoF New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1	ISO 9000 is a quality assurance system that is regularly audited internally and by a third party. No markets require this for the equipment to be used. Indeed this kind of system is in place in all sorts of organisations from factories to software companies even government. DOT and CE certification is quite different. Bo
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cedricverdier S21 M.I.B. Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Worldwide! Posts: 488	Quote: (Originally Posted by USSMEG) Leon showed me how to do it at BTS show, With the head removed. You regulate the O/2 at 4 liters and put it into the top (with a hose in the middle of a cap) of the center hose connection and cap off the bottom, where you would have the connection to the canister, below the sensors. In 2 minute or less its done. He is working on more Caps and plugs to Kit it up for everyone to do it. And off the tube for the oneway valve you put a hose to an O/2 Anayzer and can double check your readings. He's (Leon) Very slick! Paul Please could you post some pics of the kit? Any idea of the price? Cheers __________________ Cedric Verdier PADI Course Director, ANDI-IANTD-PSAI-TDI-DSAT-DAN-NAUI-CMAS Instructor Trainer Trimix (CCR and OC) and Cave Diving Instructor Trainer www.CedricVerdier.com DIRrebreather member
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*schford* Despotic Overlord Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,662	Hi Cedric, Will do it when I get home - kit consists of: Machined Plug for opening between head and scrubber Extra Dust Cap for top of head Tubing which fits through dust cap and into sensor area Flow reducer & connection on end of tubing to connect into LP O2 Surgical tubing to connect to one way valve out of head to allow indpendant O2 analysier to be fitted. Not sure about prices but not expensive. Stuart
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