Dry suit hose

Pawel Szopinski · 12th October 2008, 17:59

I want to run the dry suit hose of my dil bottle, any ideas on the routing to keep it as tidy as possible?

netmage · 13th October 2008, 01:53

Quote: (Originally Posted by Pawel Szopinski)

I want to run the dry suit hose of my dil bottle, any ideas on the routing to keep it as tidy as possible?

Ummm...1st - why...? I flip between caves (dry) and ocean (wet), so I don't like having to mess w/ hoses every weekend... My bailout reg's have QD's, so I just use them when I do go dry.....

Since your pretty much relegated to colder waters, you don't have that issue.., I'd follow the ford flow and bring it right over the left shoulder straight in, just like the ADV..

-Tim

Shawn · 13th October 2008, 03:52

If your tanks are inverted just use your standard dry suit hose, run it down under your wing, under your belt, and then keep it under your counter lung. This keeps the hose nice and tucked.

If you don't run the hose under your belt it can drift up and pinch your wing in and jack your bouyancy up.

I have tried this a couple of times diving in warmer water, But I ended up going with a 6 cuft al bottle bungeed to my back plate on the left side. It worked out to be the best deal. I can use it as back up inflation for my wing and most of all I'm not wasting dil on my suit.

Ben Field · 13th October 2008, 08:40

Echoing the other posts- why?

I would suggest use your Bailout or a suit bottle first but if needs must a normal suit hose should reach round your body as you'd need a longer hose to go up and over your shoulder.

FWIW- I run with inflator hoses on all my bailouts and have my suit and wing the same so I can if necessary fill anything from anywhere- its also worth matching these with your buddies if you dive with the same people often enough to warrant it.

I use alittle 1.5ltr bottle bungied to my backplate for Suitox, that way I can even drop stages without unplugging- (which is major PITA if you've had to do it) It normally lasts 2 days of regular diving before it gets low and needs topping up.

When you get to having helium in your Dil you Really won't want to run a suit off it because its bl**dy cold! (I did one of my Ad Trimix OC course dives with the suit inadvertantly plugged to a backgas with 45% Helium- Brrrrrrrr!)

divingabe · 13th October 2008, 11:30

I will second Mr. Field's post, a 6cuft inflation bottle attached to the plate is the better way. You then have the option of using air or argon for those very cold and long dives. I also had the experience of having to use my bailout gas for inflation and that 40% helium sure felt like ice water, ended up cutting that dive short it was just too cold.
Gabe

**PhilSiswick** · 13th October 2008, 12:33

A third to Ben's post. After reading a few threads like this, plus thinking it through myself, that's what I went with. Been doing it like that since I started diving the unit and it's working fine. I see no reason to change (especially with 2l dil cylinders!).

Cheers,

Pawel Szopinski · 13th October 2008, 19:46

Sounds like a separate suit inflation bottle is the way forward. Topping up my bailout cost me fortune since I have to pay per fill locally instead of per litre.

Shawn · 14th October 2008, 02:11

A good choice....

A 6 cuft suit bottle will go a lot further than what you think!

andd really if you keep your meg in good shape you will only be paying for fills on the 3l tanks (or whatever you have). Keeping your bail out full and ready to go.

I lot of the time I will fill my 6cuft using a trans fill whip and whatever tank I need to get topped off. A lot of guys argue the different thermal properties of some of the gas's, but I can't feel it.

Good luck and I hope all goes well on the rest of your dives.

Pawel Szopinski · 14th October 2008, 07:57

Quote: (Originally Posted by Shawn)

Good luck and I hope all goes well on the rest of your dives.

Thanks Shawn, I'm back in action this weekend before Scapa the following weekend if everything goes OK, so fingers crossed.

Pawel Szopinski · 14th October 2008, 07:58

Quote: (Originally Posted by Shawn)

Good luck and I hope all goes well on the rest of your dives.

Thanks Shawn, I'm back in action this Sunday before Scapa the following weekend if everything goes OK, so fingers crossed.

12th October 2008, 17:59	#1 (permalink)
Pawel Szopinski Channel Diver Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: London, United Kingdom Posts: 238	Dry suit hose I want to run the dry suit hose of my dil bottle, any ideas on the routing to keep it as tidy as possible?
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13th October 2008, 01:53	#2 (permalink)
netmage Tim Owens Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 935	Re: Dry suit hose Quote: (Originally Posted by Pawel Szopinski) I want to run the dry suit hose of my dil bottle, any ideas on the routing to keep it as tidy as possible? Ummm...1st - why...? I flip between caves (dry) and ocean (wet), so I don't like having to mess w/ hoses every weekend... My bailout reg's have QD's, so I just use them when I do go dry..... Since your pretty much relegated to colder waters, you don't have that issue.., I'd follow the ford flow and bring it right over the left shoulder straight in, just like the ADV.. -Tim
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13th October 2008, 03:52	#3 (permalink)
Shawn RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR RB80 / Clone Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kansas City Kansas Posts: 157	Re: Dry suit hose If your tanks are inverted just use your standard dry suit hose, run it down under your wing, under your belt, and then keep it under your counter lung. This keeps the hose nice and tucked. If you don't run the hose under your belt it can drift up and pinch your wing in and jack your bouyancy up. I have tried this a couple of times diving in warmer water, But I ended up going with a 6 cuft al bottle bungeed to my back plate on the left side. It worked out to be the best deal. I can use it as back up inflation for my wing and most of all I'm not wasting dil on my suit.
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13th October 2008, 08:40	#4 (permalink)
Ben Field CK+Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Weymouth, England Posts: 2,009	Re: Dry suit hose Echoing the other posts- why? I would suggest use your Bailout or a suit bottle first but if needs must a normal suit hose should reach round your body as you'd need a longer hose to go up and over your shoulder. FWIW- I run with inflator hoses on all my bailouts and have my suit and wing the same so I can if necessary fill anything from anywhere- its also worth matching these with your buddies if you dive with the same people often enough to warrant it. I use alittle 1.5ltr bottle bungied to my backplate for Suitox, that way I can even drop stages without unplugging- (which is major PITA if you've had to do it) It normally lasts 2 days of regular diving before it gets low and needs topping up. When you get to having helium in your Dil you Really won't want to run a suit off it because its bl**dy cold! (I did one of my Ad Trimix OC course dives with the suit inadvertantly plugged to a backgas with 45% Helium- Brrrrrrrr!) __________________ www.aquatec.co.uk www.hugsac.org.uk
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13th October 2008, 11:30	#5 (permalink)
divingabe hammermeg, copis2 Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sag Harbor Posts: 148	Re: Dry suit hose I will second Mr. Field's post, a 6cuft inflation bottle attached to the plate is the better way. You then have the option of using air or argon for those very cold and long dives. I also had the experience of having to use my bailout gas for inflation and that 40% helium sure felt like ice water, ended up cutting that dive short it was just too cold. Gabe
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13th October 2008, 12:33	#6 (permalink)
PhilSiswick Phil Siswick, Tango Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 1,284	Re: Dry suit hose A third to Ben's post. After reading a few threads like this, plus thinking it through myself, that's what I went with. Been doing it like that since I started diving the unit and it's working fine. I see no reason to change (especially with 2l dil cylinders!). Cheers, __________________ Phil (WSKD 0001) I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 The person who gets the farthest is generally the one who is willing to do and dare. The sure thing boat never gets far from shore. Charles A. Lindbergh www.hugsac.org.uk
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13th October 2008, 19:46	#7 (permalink)
Pawel Szopinski Channel Diver Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: London, United Kingdom Posts: 238	Re: Dry suit hose Sounds like a separate suit inflation bottle is the way forward. Topping up my bailout cost me fortune since I have to pay per fill locally instead of per litre.
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14th October 2008, 02:11	#8 (permalink)
Shawn RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR RB80 / Clone Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kansas City Kansas Posts: 157	Re: Dry suit hose A good choice.... A 6 cuft suit bottle will go a lot further than what you think! andd really if you keep your meg in good shape you will only be paying for fills on the 3l tanks (or whatever you have). Keeping your bail out full and ready to go. I lot of the time I will fill my 6cuft using a trans fill whip and whatever tank I need to get topped off. A lot of guys argue the different thermal properties of some of the gas's, but I can't feel it. Good luck and I hope all goes well on the rest of your dives.
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14th October 2008, 07:57	#9 (permalink)
Pawel Szopinski Channel Diver Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: London, United Kingdom Posts: 238	Re: Dry suit hose Quote: (Originally Posted by Shawn) Good luck and I hope all goes well on the rest of your dives. Thanks Shawn, I'm back in action this weekend before Scapa the following weekend if everything goes OK, so fingers crossed.
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14th October 2008, 07:58	#10 (permalink)
Pawel Szopinski Channel Diver Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: London, United Kingdom Posts: 238	Re: Dry suit hose Quote: (Originally Posted by Shawn) Good luck and I hope all goes well on the rest of your dives. Thanks Shawn, I'm back in action this Sunday before Scapa the following weekend if everything goes OK, so fingers crossed.
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