Manifold ?

Wreck detective · 13th August 2008, 14:33

Hi,

Would just like some input before i start some machining in my garage.
Being reasonably new to Meg's, i would like as much input as possible.

I done my trainging on a Meg with a manifold, quite liked the idea.
So was looking at machining my own.
But would like a variation on what i had used ( Lance's Mani). But would like to split in two instead of a one piece.
I was looking at one half for DIL, the other half maybe for BOV for BO. (not all eggs in one basket). Is this a good idea?
Any info would be appriciated

Martyn

**Fun Under Pressure** · 13th August 2008, 20:34

I think the manifold from Lance is a good idea. He have a very good house routing (on his pictures). I don´t use a manifold, because have no BOV, but many stage tanks. Two manifolds on the dil routin sounds not so clever to me.

mempilot · 13th August 2008, 20:56

I am now using one of Lance's manifolds to plumb offboard bailout/deco gasses to the BOV on my FFM. The Rebreather itself is run off onboard with offboard available via the manual addition/bypass valves on the counterlungs.

Lancer4545 · 14th August 2008, 09:24

Hi Martyn,

I am not sure how it's going to go with the hose routing........Could make it into a bit of a birds nest.

But if you want a one off send me a drawing (sketch) and I will run one off for you.

I have the special cutters to cut the oring seats which is the hardest bit.

I am off to Thailand again Monday for a couple of weeks so if you do want it you will have to wait until I get back.

Regards,

Lance

Quote: (Originally Posted by Wreck detective)

Hi,

Would just like some input before i start some machining in my garage.
Being reasonably new to Meg's, i would like as much input as possible.

I done my trainging on a Meg with a manifold, quite liked the idea.
So was looking at machining my own.
But would like a variation on what i had used ( Lance's Mani). But would like to split in two instead of a one piece.
I was looking at one half for DIL, the other half maybe for BOV for BO. (not all eggs in one basket). Is this a good idea?
Any info would be appriciated

Martyn

deanc · 17th August 2008, 02:25

Quote: (Originally Posted by Wreck detective)

Hi,

before i start some machining in my garage
Any info would be appriciated

Martyn

Martyn, surely I'm not the first to post this picture, this seems to me the simplest, neatest setup possible.

jkaterenchuk · 17th August 2008, 04:17

Quote: (Originally Posted by deanc)

Martyn, surely I'm not the first to post this picture, this seems to me the simplest, neatest setup possible.

Do you leave the dil MAV without gas connected?

John

jkaterenchuk · 17th August 2008, 04:29

I installed and took one of Lance's manifolds for its first dive today.

I have the older SP MK2 1st stages so things were very crowded on the Dil first stage and there were several 90 degree adapters to keep hoses from looping up above and beside the unit. Now I have only two hoses into the first stage....the HP SPG and the LP hose to feed the manifold.

The feed to the manifold goes down and feeds thru the wing and up along the back of the BP (Ford Flow style) and connects to the manifold located in front of the wing at my left shoulder. No hoses coming over the wing. From there the manifold feeds the BOV, Wing, MAV, Offboard, ADV in that order left to right if looking at the diver. I measured and had custom hoses made and everything seems to fit nicely with nothing out of place or in the way.

So far it seems to work as I would have expected.

John

deanc · 17th August 2008, 05:49

Quote: (Originally Posted by jkaterenchuk)

Do you leave the dil MAV without gas connected?

John

yes, without gas connected.

Stage regs each have BC hose stowed.

I can see now you hose the MAV also from the manifold when offboard is plugged in, I hadn't pondered that extra one. Anyway I keep the BC hoses on stage regs, firstly for offboard wing&spare bladder inflation without the qc plugin, separately for diluent mav.

Also I use the diluent MAV for gentle O2 flush before diving, and at 6m deco, by unplugging right and plugging left.

jkaterenchuk · 17th August 2008, 12:26

Quote: (Originally Posted by deanc)

yes, without gas connected.

Stage regs each have BC hose stowed.

I can see now you hose the MAV also from the manifold when offboard is plugged in, I hadn't pondered that extra one. Anyway I keep the BC hoses on stage regs, firstly for offboard wing&spare bladder inflation without the qc plugin, separately for diluent mav.

Also I use the diluent MAV for gentle O2 flush before diving, and at 6m deco, by unplugging right and plugging left.

Since you are using the exhale MAV for O2 flush why don't you just plug the O2 hose in the left CL as your permanent config instead of moving it?

I also have BC hoses on the stages and now with this system I have a hose with male QD. I will be looking to reduce this down to a single hose with male QD that I can use to feed manifold and can also plug into any of the LP males on wing, MAV and Drysuit. Golemgear has the parts I just need to get some time with this new setup before proceeding.

John

13th August 2008, 14:33	#1 (permalink)
Wreck detective New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 8	Manifold ? Hi, Would just like some input before i start some machining in my garage. Being reasonably new to Meg's, i would like as much input as possible. I done my trainging on a Meg with a manifold, quite liked the idea. So was looking at machining my own. But would like a variation on what i had used ( Lance's Mani). But would like to split in two instead of a one piece. I was looking at one half for DIL, the other half maybe for BOV for BO. (not all eggs in one basket). Is this a good idea? Any info would be appriciated Martyn
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13th August 2008, 20:34	#2 (permalink)
Fun Under Pressure Supporting Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 805	Re: Manifold ? I think the manifold from Lance is a good idea. He have a very good house routing (on his pictures). I don´t use a manifold, because have no BOV, but many stage tanks. Two manifolds on the dil routin sounds not so clever to me. __________________ Cheers Markku Meg # 773 Dive my dreams is my life-task
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13th August 2008, 20:56	#3 (permalink)
mempilot Eric Stadtmueller Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Posts: 1,708	Re: Manifold ? I am now using one of Lance's manifolds to plumb offboard bailout/deco gasses to the BOV on my FFM. The Rebreather itself is run off onboard with offboard available via the manual addition/bypass valves on the counterlungs. __________________ Eric Stadtmueller, otherwise known as, MEM "Da Pilot"
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14th August 2008, 09:24	#4 (permalink)
Lancer4545 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cairns QLD Australia Posts: 748	Re: Manifold ? Hi Martyn, I am not sure how it's going to go with the hose routing........Could make it into a bit of a birds nest. But if you want a one off send me a drawing (sketch) and I will run one off for you. I have the special cutters to cut the oring seats which is the hardest bit. I am off to Thailand again Monday for a couple of weeks so if you do want it you will have to wait until I get back. Regards, Lance Quote: (Originally Posted by Wreck detective) Hi, Would just like some input before i start some machining in my garage. Being reasonably new to Meg's, i would like as much input as possible. I done my trainging on a Meg with a manifold, quite liked the idea. So was looking at machining my own. But would like a variation on what i had used ( Lance's Mani). But would like to split in two instead of a one piece. I was looking at one half for DIL, the other half maybe for BOV for BO. (not all eggs in one basket). Is this a good idea? Any info would be appriciated Martyn __________________ You can run but you can't hide! ISC Appointed Megalodon Dealer for East Australia http://www.closedcircuitdivers.com.au info@closedcircuitdivers.com.au
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17th August 2008, 04:17	#6 (permalink)
jkaterenchuk . Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lititz, PA Posts: 1,092	Re: Manifold ? Quote: (Originally Posted by deanc) Martyn, surely I'm not the first to post this picture, this seems to me the simplest, neatest setup possible. Do you leave the dil MAV without gas connected? John
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17th August 2008, 04:29	#7 (permalink)
jkaterenchuk . Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lititz, PA Posts: 1,092	Re: Manifold ? I installed and took one of Lance's manifolds for its first dive today. I have the older SP MK2 1st stages so things were very crowded on the Dil first stage and there were several 90 degree adapters to keep hoses from looping up above and beside the unit. Now I have only two hoses into the first stage....the HP SPG and the LP hose to feed the manifold. The feed to the manifold goes down and feeds thru the wing and up along the back of the BP (Ford Flow style) and connects to the manifold located in front of the wing at my left shoulder. No hoses coming over the wing. From there the manifold feeds the BOV, Wing, MAV, Offboard, ADV in that order left to right if looking at the diver. I measured and had custom hoses made and everything seems to fit nicely with nothing out of place or in the way. So far it seems to work as I would have expected. John
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17th August 2008, 05:49	#8 (permalink)
deanc New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Perth, WA Posts: 52	Re: Manifold ? Quote: (Originally Posted by jkaterenchuk) Do you leave the dil MAV without gas connected? John yes, without gas connected. Stage regs each have BC hose stowed. I can see now you hose the MAV also from the manifold when offboard is plugged in, I hadn't pondered that extra one. Anyway I keep the BC hoses on stage regs, firstly for offboard wing&spare bladder inflation without the qc plugin, separately for diluent mav. Also I use the diluent MAV for gentle O2 flush before diving, and at 6m deco, by unplugging right and plugging left. __________________ You dont know what you dont know.
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17th August 2008, 12:26	#9 (permalink)
jkaterenchuk . Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lititz, PA Posts: 1,092	Re: Manifold ? Quote: (Originally Posted by deanc) yes, without gas connected. Stage regs each have BC hose stowed. I can see now you hose the MAV also from the manifold when offboard is plugged in, I hadn't pondered that extra one. Anyway I keep the BC hoses on stage regs, firstly for offboard wing&spare bladder inflation without the qc plugin, separately for diluent mav. Also I use the diluent MAV for gentle O2 flush before diving, and at 6m deco, by unplugging right and plugging left. Since you are using the exhale MAV for O2 flush why don't you just plug the O2 hose in the left CL as your permanent config instead of moving it? I also have BC hoses on the stages and now with this system I have a hose with male QD. I will be looking to reduce this down to a single hose with male QD that I can use to feed manifold and can also plug into any of the LP males on wing, MAV and Drysuit. Golemgear has the parts I just need to get some time with this new setup before proceeding. John
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