Suit inflation.

kev low · 6th August 2008, 21:08

Hi all,
What is the best way to use a suit inflation system with the meg,ie under a narked at 90 stand or just attached to the can?
Many thanks, Kev

mempilot · 6th August 2008, 21:26

I attach mine to the backplate with the Dive Rite argon harness. Works great.

mmcauliffe · 6th August 2008, 21:35

I'm very VERY new at this CCR stuff but dive nothing but caves. Lots of up and down.

I tap into my 19cf Dil cylinder for the wing (which is my primary buoyancy device) and I know, right now, I play with it WAY TOO MUCH. I tap into my bailout bottle to take the squeeze off of my drysuit.

My point is, me being VERY new, we all know I will use gas more than anybody else here and so far I do not see a need for an off board cylinder for wing inflation. I own such a system (6cf cyl. w/OPV, blah blah blah) from my Great Lakes diving days, I just don't see the need to bring it along.

jkaterenchuk · 7th August 2008, 02:53

Quote: (Originally Posted by mmcauliffe)

I'm very VERY new at this CCR stuff but dive nothing but caves. Lots of up and down.

I tap into my 19cf Dil cylinder for the wing (which is my primary buoyancy device) and I know, right now, I play with it WAY TOO MUCH. I tap into my bailout bottle to take the squeeze off of my drysuit.

My point is, me being VERY new, we all know I will use gas more than anybody else here and so far I do not see a need for an off board cylinder for wing inflation. I own such a system (6cf cyl. w/OPV, blah blah blah) from my Great Lakes diving days, I just don't see the need to bring it along.

I am sure you know by now that ups and downs in caves can blow thru alot of Dil quickly. I trust you are making an allowance for this when you calculate what BO you need for a CCR failure at point of deepest penetration?

John

Mixaddict · 7th August 2008, 04:03

Quote: (Originally Posted by mmcauliffe)

I'm very VERY new at this CCR stuff but dive nothing but caves. Lots of up and down.

I tap into my 19cf Dil cylinder for the wing (which is my primary buoyancy device) and I know, right now, I play with it WAY TOO MUCH. I tap into my bailout bottle to take the squeeze off of my drysuit.

My point is, me being VERY new, we all know I will use gas more than anybody else here and so far I do not see a need for an off board cylinder for wing inflation. I own such a system (6cf cyl. w/OPV, blah blah blah) from my Great Lakes diving days, I just don't see the need to bring it along.

Works fine except when you have TMX in your bailout!:;)

Ukon · 7th August 2008, 04:59

I have mine bungied into the base of my Narked @ 90 stand and I am pretty happy with it there. Prior I had it mounted on my waist strap & bungied to my backplate, but I found that to be kind of a pain in the ass, particularly with multiple bailout bottles.

Skipbreather · 7th August 2008, 05:01

I find a simple 6 cf bottle attached to my backplate does the job nicely for me. If the dives aren't over 200 ft or so, works for 2 dives before going MT. It is also worthwhile to remember that the dedicated bottle becomes, w/ drysuit, a fully independent backup for your wing buoyancy system.

mmcauliffe · 7th August 2008, 11:22

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mixaddict)

Works fine except when you have TMX in your bailout!:;)

Touché :)

mmcauliffe · 7th August 2008, 11:29

Quote: (Originally Posted by jkaterenchuk)

I am sure you know by now that ups and downs in caves can blow thru alot of Dil quickly. I trust you are making an allowance for this when you calculate what BO you need for a CCR failure at point of deepest penetration?

John

Of course.

I don't use nearly the amount of gas in my suit as I do my wing, only enough to take some of the bite out of a suit squeeze, but your point is well made. Indeed I figure it in. Realistically how much would that be? 3-4cu/ft :D In the Great Lakes I could make a couple 200+ foot dives with 1 fill in my 6cu/ft argon bottle...I know, it's a square profile.

jkaterenchuk · 7th August 2008, 11:54

Quote: (Originally Posted by mmcauliffe)

Of course.

I don't use nearly the amount of gas in my suit as I do my wing, only enough to take some of the bite out of a suit squeeze, but your point is well made. Indeed I figure it in. Realistically how much would that be? 3-4cu/ft :D In the Great Lakes I could make a couple 200+ foot dives with 1 fill in my 6cu/ft argon bottle...I know, it's a square profile.

I suspected you were but thought it worth mentioning if not for your benefit then maybe someone less experience that might be reading. I really can't say how much you should figure in. I guess it depends more on the cave profile your diving and how much you use DS versus wing. Like some other posters I found that a 6cuft bottle would do about 2 square profile wreck dives on the DS.

John

6th August 2008, 21:08	#1 (permalink)
kev low RBW Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: UK Posts: 11	Suit inflation. Hi all, What is the best way to use a suit inflation system with the meg,ie under a narked at 90 stand or just attached to the can? Many thanks, Kev
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6th August 2008, 21:26	#2 (permalink)
mempilot RBW Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,761	Re: Suit inflation. I attach mine to the backplate with the Dive Rite argon harness. Works great.
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6th August 2008, 21:35	#3 (permalink)
mmcauliffe RBW Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 74	Re: Suit inflation. I'm very VERY new at this CCR stuff but dive nothing but caves. Lots of up and down. I tap into my 19cf Dil cylinder for the wing (which is my primary buoyancy device) and I know, right now, I play with it WAY TOO MUCH. I tap into my bailout bottle to take the squeeze off of my drysuit. My point is, me being VERY new, we all know I will use gas more than anybody else here and so far I do not see a need for an off board cylinder for wing inflation. I own such a system (6cf cyl. w/OPV, blah blah blah) from my Great Lakes diving days, I just don't see the need to bring it along. Last edited by mmcauliffe; 6th August 2008 at 21:44..
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7th August 2008, 02:53	#4 (permalink)
jkaterenchuk RBW Member HammerMeg Kiss Classic, Inspiration Join Date: May 2006 Location: PA Posts: 2,868	Re: Suit inflation. Quote: (Originally Posted by mmcauliffe) I'm very VERY new at this CCR stuff but dive nothing but caves. Lots of up and down. I tap into my 19cf Dil cylinder for the wing (which is my primary buoyancy device) and I know, right now, I play with it WAY TOO MUCH. I tap into my bailout bottle to take the squeeze off of my drysuit. My point is, me being VERY new, we all know I will use gas more than anybody else here and so far I do not see a need for an off board cylinder for wing inflation. I own such a system (6cf cyl. w/OPV, blah blah blah) from my Great Lakes diving days, I just don't see the need to bring it along. I am sure you know by now that ups and downs in caves can blow thru alot of Dil quickly. I trust you are making an allowance for this when you calculate what BO you need for a CCR failure at point of deepest penetration? John
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7th August 2008, 04:03	#5 (permalink)
Mixaddict Randy Thornton Hammerhead Sentinel Evolution Optima Inspiration Prism 2 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Draper, Utah / Ft. White, Florida Posts: 1,517	Re: Suit inflation. Quote: (Originally Posted by mmcauliffe) I'm very VERY new at this CCR stuff but dive nothing but caves. Lots of up and down. I tap into my 19cf Dil cylinder for the wing (which is my primary buoyancy device) and I know, right now, I play with it WAY TOO MUCH. I tap into my bailout bottle to take the squeeze off of my drysuit. My point is, me being VERY new, we all know I will use gas more than anybody else here and so far I do not see a need for an off board cylinder for wing inflation. I own such a system (6cf cyl. w/OPV, blah blah blah) from my Great Lakes diving days, I just don't see the need to bring it along. Works fine except when you have TMX in your bailout!:;) __________________ Randy Thornton TDI Training Advisory Panel member CCR Cave Instructor & Advanced Trimix Instructor Trainer- Hammerhead, Sentinel, Inspiration, Evolution, Optima, & Prism 2 www.diveaddicts.com www.cavecountrylodging.com http://ccrexplorer.blogspot.com/
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7th August 2008, 04:59	#6 (permalink)
Ukon Urrrgh! rEvo II KISS Classic Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Northeast Posts: 94	Re: Suit inflation. I have mine bungied into the base of my Narked @ 90 stand and I am pretty happy with it there. Prior I had it mounted on my waist strap & bungied to my backplate, but I found that to be kind of a pain in the ass, particularly with multiple bailout bottles.
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7th August 2008, 05:01	#7 (permalink)
Skipbreather Reads fine print (mostly) MEGALODON IDA71 IDA64 AKA60 BMR500 RGUFM Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago, Illinois, USA Posts: 1,205	Re: Suit inflation. I find a simple 6 cf bottle attached to my backplate does the job nicely for me. If the dives aren't over 200 ft or so, works for 2 dives before going MT. It is also worthwhile to remember that the dedicated bottle becomes, w/ drysuit, a fully independent backup for your wing buoyancy system.
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7th August 2008, 11:22	#8 (permalink)
mmcauliffe RBW Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 74	Re: Suit inflation. Quote: (Originally Posted by Mixaddict) Works fine except when you have TMX in your bailout!:;) Touché :)
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7th August 2008, 11:29	#9 (permalink)
mmcauliffe RBW Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 74	Re: Suit inflation. Quote: (Originally Posted by jkaterenchuk) I am sure you know by now that ups and downs in caves can blow thru alot of Dil quickly. I trust you are making an allowance for this when you calculate what BO you need for a CCR failure at point of deepest penetration? John Of course. I don't use nearly the amount of gas in my suit as I do my wing, only enough to take some of the bite out of a suit squeeze, but your point is well made. Indeed I figure it in. Realistically how much would that be? 3-4cu/ft :D In the Great Lakes I could make a couple 200+ foot dives with 1 fill in my 6cu/ft argon bottle...I know, it's a square profile.
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7th August 2008, 11:54	#10 (permalink)
jkaterenchuk RBW Member HammerMeg Kiss Classic, Inspiration Join Date: May 2006 Location: PA Posts: 2,868	Re: Suit inflation. Quote: (Originally Posted by mmcauliffe) Of course. I don't use nearly the amount of gas in my suit as I do my wing, only enough to take some of the bite out of a suit squeeze, but your point is well made. Indeed I figure it in. Realistically how much would that be? 3-4cu/ft :D In the Great Lakes I could make a couple 200+ foot dives with 1 fill in my 6cu/ft argon bottle...I know, it's a square profile. I suspected you were but thought it worth mentioning if not for your benefit then maybe someone less experience that might be reading. I really can't say how much you should figure in. I guess it depends more on the cave profile your diving and how much you use DS versus wing. Like some other posters I found that a 6cuft bottle would do about 2 square profile wreck dives on the DS. John
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