First stages

hchoat · 10th November 2005, 14:56

Sorry for the very basic question....

I'm collecting peices and parts for the Meg I have on order, and I'm curious as to what folks are using for first stages, as I need to pick them up (or scavenge them from the boxes and boxes of hopefully soon to be useless crap in my garage). Thanks for the help!

-H

***schford*** · 10th November 2005, 16:37

Poseidons for me - they might be a bit overkill but superb quality and make for fantastic routing of hoses with the Megs no need for swivel joints with them as a first stage!

Pelagian · 10th November 2005, 17:54

I'm Using Scubapro MK 25's. Like Stuarts poseidon's the performance is way overkillfor a CCR, but I choose them for the hose routing and the fact that there are oxygen compatible parts readily available for them.

In many ways I'd prefer to use the MK 2's as they're simpler and more reliable(although the 25's are wicked) but having had one fire oxygen already I wont compromise on oxygen convertions and Scubapro USA no longer makes compatible seats for the MK 2's.

Cheers

Seb

hchoat · 10th November 2005, 18:08

Quote: (Originally Posted by Pelagian)

I'm Using Scubapro MK 25's. Like Stuarts poseidon's the performance is way overkillfor a CCR, but I choose them for the hose routing and the fact that there are oxygen compatible parts readily available for them.

In many ways I'd prefer to use the MK 2's as they're simpler and more reliable(although the 25's are wicked) but having had one fire oxygen already I wont compromise on oxygen convertions and Scubapro USA no longer makes compatible seats for the MK 2's.

Cheers

Seb

Thanks for the intel on the MK2's Seb. That's what I had been looking at using, but, like you, having "been there and done that" with the O2 fire- no thanks! I work for a SP/Aqualung/Apeks dealer, and so get decent pricing and parts access for all- so it's easy for me to take my pick from among those lines. Anyone using DS-4's? How is the hose routing with them? I have a pile of them already- so that would be an easy transition.

-H

Chris · 10th November 2005, 21:05

Hi Seb
Are you sure that’s right on the Mk2’s?
SMI are still using them on the Prism’s and I doubt they would be if they cant get O2 parts for them.

I spoke to ScubaPro here in Australia and they confirmed a different seat but said nothing about no longer making them.

Cheers
Chris

Crazyduck · 11th November 2005, 14:23

Steam Machines does a lot of work to their mk2’s and tank valves to make them safe. In fact, they rebuild them before allowing them to go into service and make specific changes to the valves for Diluent and Oxygen.

Heather, you could contact Steam Machines directly in Tennessee if you were interested in using MK2’s. However, I am not sure if this is a regular service that they provide or if they sell a kit? You would have to contact them directly.

http://www.steammachines.com/

Regards, Andrew

**rigdiver** · 11th November 2005, 17:46

Quote: (Originally Posted by Crazyduck)

Steam Machines does a lot of work to their mk2’s and tank valves to make them safe. In fact, they rebuild them before allowing them to go into service and make specific changes to the valves for Diluent and Oxygen.

Heather, you could contact Steam Machines directly in Tennessee if you were interested in using MK2’s. However, I am not sure if this is a regular service that they provide or if they sell a kit? You would have to contact them directly.

http://www.steammachines.com/

Regards, Andrew

Andrew, et.al;
At a SCUBAPRO seminar earlier this year I was told that the mk 2 actually came O2 clean from the factory. Of course it's not labelled as such. Does anybody have hard info in writing from SCUBAPRO one way or another?
Bill

**trob09** · 11th November 2005, 19:07

Quote: (Originally Posted by hchoat)

Thanks for the intel on the MK2's Seb. That's what I had been looking at using, but, like you, having "been there and done that" with the O2 fire- no thanks! I work for a SP/Aqualung/Apeks dealer, and so get decent pricing and parts access for all- so it's easy for me to take my pick from among those lines. Anyone using DS-4's? How is the hose routing with them? I have a pile of them already- so that would be an easy transition.

-H

Heather,

I use Atomic M1's as that's what I had from OC. Since they are basically the same as SP MK25's they route extremely well. A buddy uses DS-4's on his meg and they work well also. The hose routing is a little less clean, but I'm often accused of being overly anal about these things.

T

Crazyduck · 11th November 2005, 20:37

WHOAAA there...
Are you runnig O2 through the M1?

Atomics states that their reg is good to 80% ?
http://www.atomicaquatics.com/ComparisonChart.html

I have had all kinds of nightmares of one of these burning...

Any thoughts or experience you have with the unit would be appricated.

Regards, Andrew

Quote: (Originally Posted by trob09)

Heather,
I use Atomic M1's as that's what I had from OC. Since they are basically the same as SP MK25's they route extremely well. A buddy uses DS-4's on his meg and they work well also. The hose routing is a little less clean, but I'm often accused of being overly anal about these things.
T

hchoat · 11th November 2005, 20:39

Quote: (Originally Posted by rigdiver)

Andrew, et.al;
At a SCUBAPRO seminar earlier this year I was told that the mk 2 actually came O2 clean from the factory. Of course it's not labelled as such. Does anybody have hard info in writing from SCUBAPRO one way or another?
Bill

Bill-
I have been told that too. Unless I saw it in writing, from SP, I wouldn't buy it. Further, I'd still O2 clean my own- remember that little story I told y'all about a valve?

10th November 2005, 14:56	#1 (permalink)
hchoat Resident Selkie Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pensacola, FL- USA Posts: 227	First stages Sorry for the very basic question.... I'm collecting peices and parts for the Meg I have on order, and I'm curious as to what folks are using for first stages, as I need to pick them up (or scavenge them from the boxes and boxes of hopefully soon to be useless crap in my garage). Thanks for the help! -H
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10th November 2005, 16:37	#2 (permalink)
*schford* Despotic Overlord Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,674	Re: First stages Poseidons for me - they might be a bit overkill but superb quality and make for fantastic routing of hoses with the Megs no need for swivel joints with them as a first stage! __________________ Bailout and Kit Management account for Murphy's Law The only bad question is one you did not ask and later wish you had. Use of Rebreather World is subject to the Rebreather World Terms & Conditions of Use
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10th November 2005, 17:54	#3 (permalink)
Pelagian Multi-Circuit Meg Monkey! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Optima Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Leeds, England Posts: 275	Re: First stages I'm Using Scubapro MK 25's. Like Stuarts poseidon's the performance is way overkillfor a CCR, but I choose them for the hose routing and the fact that there are oxygen compatible parts readily available for them. In many ways I'd prefer to use the MK 2's as they're simpler and more reliable(although the 25's are wicked) but having had one fire oxygen already I wont compromise on oxygen convertions and Scubapro USA no longer makes compatible seats for the MK 2's. Cheers Seb __________________ 'Because... I was Inverted!'
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10th November 2005, 18:08	#4 (permalink)
hchoat Resident Selkie Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pensacola, FL- USA Posts: 227	Re: First stages Quote: (Originally Posted by Pelagian) I'm Using Scubapro MK 25's. Like Stuarts poseidon's the performance is way overkillfor a CCR, but I choose them for the hose routing and the fact that there are oxygen compatible parts readily available for them. In many ways I'd prefer to use the MK 2's as they're simpler and more reliable(although the 25's are wicked) but having had one fire oxygen already I wont compromise on oxygen convertions and Scubapro USA no longer makes compatible seats for the MK 2's. Cheers Seb Thanks for the intel on the MK2's Seb. That's what I had been looking at using, but, like you, having "been there and done that" with the O2 fire- no thanks! I work for a SP/Aqualung/Apeks dealer, and so get decent pricing and parts access for all- so it's easy for me to take my pick from among those lines. Anyone using DS-4's? How is the hose routing with them? I have a pile of them already- so that would be an easy transition. -H
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10th November 2005, 21:05	#5 (permalink)
Chris Go Nude Or Go Home Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 607	Re: First stages Hi Seb Are you sure that’s right on the Mk2’s? SMI are still using them on the Prism’s and I doubt they would be if they cant get O2 parts for them. I spoke to ScubaPro here in Australia and they confirmed a different seat but said nothing about no longer making them. Cheers Chris __________________ Megalodon Sorb and Sensors whilst in Australia www.divetub.com.au Diving & Photography @ www.uwphotog.com
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11th November 2005, 14:23	#6 (permalink)
Crazyduck Underwater Mechanic Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: TEXAS, Dallas/ Ft.Worth Posts: 708	Re: First stages Steam Machines does a lot of work to their mk2’s and tank valves to make them safe. In fact, they rebuild them before allowing them to go into service and make specific changes to the valves for Diluent and Oxygen. Heather, you could contact Steam Machines directly in Tennessee if you were interested in using MK2’s. However, I am not sure if this is a regular service that they provide or if they sell a kit? You would have to contact them directly. http://www.steammachines.com/ Regards, Andrew
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11th November 2005, 17:46	#7 (permalink)
rigdiver LEARNING CONTINUALLY Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: TEXAS Posts: 418	Re: First stages Quote: (Originally Posted by Crazyduck) Steam Machines does a lot of work to their mk2’s and tank valves to make them safe. In fact, they rebuild them before allowing them to go into service and make specific changes to the valves for Diluent and Oxygen. Heather, you could contact Steam Machines directly in Tennessee if you were interested in using MK2’s. However, I am not sure if this is a regular service that they provide or if they sell a kit? You would have to contact them directly. http://www.steammachines.com/ Regards, Andrew Andrew, et.al; At a SCUBAPRO seminar earlier this year I was told that the mk 2 actually came O2 clean from the factory. Of course it's not labelled as such. Does anybody have hard info in writing from SCUBAPRO one way or another? Bill
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11th November 2005, 19:07	#8 (permalink)
trob09 . Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 699	Re: First stages Quote: (Originally Posted by hchoat) Thanks for the intel on the MK2's Seb. That's what I had been looking at using, but, like you, having "been there and done that" with the O2 fire- no thanks! I work for a SP/Aqualung/Apeks dealer, and so get decent pricing and parts access for all- so it's easy for me to take my pick from among those lines. Anyone using DS-4's? How is the hose routing with them? I have a pile of them already- so that would be an easy transition. -H Heather, I use Atomic M1's as that's what I had from OC. Since they are basically the same as SP MK25's they route extremely well. A buddy uses DS-4's on his meg and they work well also. The hose routing is a little less clean, but I'm often accused of being overly anal about these things. T
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11th November 2005, 20:37	#9 (permalink)
Crazyduck Underwater Mechanic Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: TEXAS, Dallas/ Ft.Worth Posts: 708	Re: First stages WHOAAA there... Are you runnig O2 through the M1? Atomics states that their reg is good to 80% ? http://www.atomicaquatics.com/ComparisonChart.html I have had all kinds of nightmares of one of these burning... Any thoughts or experience you have with the unit would be appricated. Regards, Andrew Quote: (Originally Posted by trob09) Heather, I use Atomic M1's as that's what I had from OC. Since they are basically the same as SP MK25's they route extremely well. A buddy uses DS-4's on his meg and they work well also. The hose routing is a little less clean, but I'm often accused of being overly anal about these things. T Last edited by Crazyduck : 11th November 2005 at 20:38. Reason: Spelling Affication 9)
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11th November 2005, 20:39	#10 (permalink)
hchoat Resident Selkie Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pensacola, FL- USA Posts: 227	Re: First stages Quote: (Originally Posted by rigdiver) Andrew, et.al; At a SCUBAPRO seminar earlier this year I was told that the mk 2 actually came O2 clean from the factory. Of course it's not labelled as such. Does anybody have hard info in writing from SCUBAPRO one way or another? Bill Bill- I have been told that too. Unless I saw it in writing, from SP, I wouldn't buy it. Further, I'd still O2 clean my own- remember that little story I told y'all about a valve?
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