micropore cannister

tflaris · 22nd July 2008, 15:40

Anyone using the micropore cannister in the Meg? Still in production? Pros and cons.

Thanks

PaulTG2 · 22nd July 2008, 15:46

Hello,

I have an adapter but I sold the Meg before I got around to setting up the system to use it.

The adapter only fits the Cave Meg, and sits on the bottom of the can. To use it in a standard Meg canister you'd have to make an adapter, but you could then us the absorbent pads. It is too tall for the Mini-Meg.

Sincerely,

-p

***ScubaDadMiami*** · 22nd July 2008, 19:58

I am not a Meg diver. As much as I am a big believer in the EACs, from what I have heard from other sources, the EAC does not work well in the Meg.

It does not breathe nearly as well as its design otherwise allows, and its allowable safe use time is reduced. The reason for this, as I have been told, is that the adapter is a retro-fit to try to make a square peg fit into a round hole. Unless the design is made for the EAC from the beginning, simply making the EAC fit into the canister will not make it work as it is designed to work.

gtzavelas · 23rd July 2008, 08:32

I had asked the same questions a year ago and got the same replies so i gave up on the idea

however if you look at the WOB data that ISC released you will see that the WOB of the micropore is just a bit better compared to the standard canister
see these:
http://www.customrebreathers.com/ANS...Axial_Test.pdf
http://www.customrebreathers.com/ANS...ridge_Test.pdf

so maybe it is one of these "urban legands"....

any way if you decide to try let me know , i would be very interested!

PaulTG2 · 23rd July 2008, 14:59

Hello,

I still have the canister adapter if you want to buy it and give it a go.

-p

tflaris · 23rd July 2008, 18:17

Quote: (Originally Posted by PaulTG2)

Hello,

I still have the canister adapter if you want to buy it and give it a go.

-p

I was trying to understand your post. You have an adaptor but do not have the spacing ring which rest underneath it and therefore I would have to make one? Or use the original one that came with the cannister? I was a little puzzled after your post. I understand the cannister you have is shorter than the original one. Please explain.

Thanks

PaulTG2 · 23rd July 2008, 19:53

Hello,

The EAC adapter was made to sit on the bottom of the Cave Meg canister without a spacer. The Cave Meg canister is shorter than a standard Meg but the diameters are the same.

As a result the EAC and adapter assembly is shorter than the standard Meg scrubber/spacer assembly but they are both the same diameter. The standard spacer will not work with the EAC/adapter.

To the best of my knowledge there isn't anyone who has used the EAC/adapter in a standard Meg canister. It would be too short to properly mate with scrubber exhalation port in the head on a standard canister. I was intending to come up with a solution but never got around to doing it. I no longer plan on doing so.

Sincerely,

-p

PaulTG2 · 23rd July 2008, 21:10

Hello,

Here are some pictures of the adapter installed on an old EAC:

tflaris · 23rd July 2008, 22:26

Quote: (Originally Posted by PaulTG2)

Hello,

I still have the canister adapter if you want to buy it and give it a go.

-p

Unfortunately I would have to purchase a Cave Meg cannnister and with the adaptor and Tiger mounts it would run me around 1000.00 dollars. According to Jerry at ISC they are in the works with Micropore (once micropore comes out with a scubber that has a longer duration) and they will make a cannister adaptor that will fit the standard Meg cannister.

Might have a demo at DEMA. He did not have a specific timeline.

PaulTG2 · 24th July 2008, 00:03

Hello,

Actually I was just going to make a solid ring of material the proper height. Heck, a solid block should work as it was originally designed to sit on the bottom of the canister. I just never got around to doing it before I moved to another rebreather.

-p

22nd July 2008, 15:40	#1 (permalink)
tflaris God save the Queen Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Neptune Beach, Florida Posts: 274	micropore cannister Anyone using the micropore cannister in the Meg? Still in production? Pros and cons. Thanks __________________ "Except for this one, I have come to the conclusion that all generalizations are false" -Jim Hayes
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22nd July 2008, 15:46	#2 (permalink)
PaulTG2 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 517	Re: micropore cannister Hello, I have an adapter but I sold the Meg before I got around to setting up the system to use it. The adapter only fits the Cave Meg, and sits on the bottom of the can. To use it in a standard Meg canister you'd have to make an adapter, but you could then us the absorbent pads. It is too tall for the Mini-Meg. Sincerely, -p __________________ Paul's first law states that the safety of an activity is determined by how forgiving of mistakes the activity is. Paul's second law states that the difference between an adventurer and an explorer is whether the doing or the learning comes first.
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22nd July 2008, 19:58	#3 (permalink)
*ScubaDadMiami* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 2,217	Re: micropore cannister I am not a Meg diver. As much as I am a big believer in the EACs, from what I have heard from other sources, the EAC does not work well in the Meg. It does not breathe nearly as well as its design otherwise allows, and its allowable safe use time is reduced. The reason for this, as I have been told, is that the adapter is a retro-fit to try to make a square peg fit into a round hole. Unless the design is made for the EAC from the beginning, simply making the EAC fit into the canister will not make it work as it is designed to work. __________________ Howard Packer IANTD CCR Instructor Miami Beach, Florida CCRDiveTraining.com
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23rd July 2008, 08:32	#4 (permalink)
gtzavelas RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon RB80 / Clone Other Rebreather/s: RB80 / Clone Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Athens,Greece Posts: 280	Re: micropore cannister I had asked the same questions a year ago and got the same replies so i gave up on the idea however if you look at the WOB data that ISC released you will see that the WOB of the micropore is just a bit better compared to the standard canister see these: http://www.customrebreathers.com/ANS...Axial_Test.pdf http://www.customrebreathers.com/ANS...ridge_Test.pdf so maybe it is one of these "urban legands".... any way if you decide to try let me know , i would be very interested!
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23rd July 2008, 14:59	#5 (permalink)
PaulTG2 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 517	Re: micropore cannister Hello, I still have the canister adapter if you want to buy it and give it a go. -p __________________ Paul's first law states that the safety of an activity is determined by how forgiving of mistakes the activity is. Paul's second law states that the difference between an adventurer and an explorer is whether the doing or the learning comes first.
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23rd July 2008, 18:17	#6 (permalink)
tflaris God save the Queen Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Neptune Beach, Florida Posts: 274	Re: micropore cannister Quote: (Originally Posted by PaulTG2) Hello, I still have the canister adapter if you want to buy it and give it a go. -p I was trying to understand your post. You have an adaptor but do not have the spacing ring which rest underneath it and therefore I would have to make one? Or use the original one that came with the cannister? I was a little puzzled after your post. I understand the cannister you have is shorter than the original one. Please explain. Thanks __________________ "Except for this one, I have come to the conclusion that all generalizations are false" -Jim Hayes Last edited by tflaris : 23rd July 2008 at 18:18. Reason: spelling
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23rd July 2008, 19:53	#7 (permalink)
PaulTG2 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 517	Re: micropore cannister Hello, The EAC adapter was made to sit on the bottom of the Cave Meg canister without a spacer. The Cave Meg canister is shorter than a standard Meg but the diameters are the same. As a result the EAC and adapter assembly is shorter than the standard Meg scrubber/spacer assembly but they are both the same diameter. The standard spacer will not work with the EAC/adapter. To the best of my knowledge there isn't anyone who has used the EAC/adapter in a standard Meg canister. It would be too short to properly mate with scrubber exhalation port in the head on a standard canister. I was intending to come up with a solution but never got around to doing it. I no longer plan on doing so. Sincerely, -p __________________ Paul's first law states that the safety of an activity is determined by how forgiving of mistakes the activity is. Paul's second law states that the difference between an adventurer and an explorer is whether the doing or the learning comes first. Last edited by PaulTG2 : 23rd July 2008 at 21:15.
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23rd July 2008, 22:26	#9 (permalink)
tflaris God save the Queen Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Neptune Beach, Florida Posts: 274	Re: micropore cannister Quote: (Originally Posted by PaulTG2) Hello, I still have the canister adapter if you want to buy it and give it a go. -p Unfortunately I would have to purchase a Cave Meg cannnister and with the adaptor and Tiger mounts it would run me around 1000.00 dollars. According to Jerry at ISC they are in the works with Micropore (once micropore comes out with a scubber that has a longer duration) and they will make a cannister adaptor that will fit the standard Meg cannister. Might have a demo at DEMA. He did not have a specific timeline. __________________ "Except for this one, I have come to the conclusion that all generalizations are false" -Jim Hayes
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24th July 2008, 00:03	#10 (permalink)
PaulTG2 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 517	Re: micropore cannister Hello, Actually I was just going to make a solid ring of material the proper height. Heck, a solid block should work as it was originally designed to sit on the bottom of the canister. I just never got around to doing it before I moved to another rebreather. -p __________________ Paul's first law states that the safety of an activity is determined by how forgiving of mistakes the activity is. Paul's second law states that the difference between an adventurer and an explorer is whether the doing or the learning comes first.
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