Shadow mounts support

dykkermads · 30th June 2008, 19:16

Hi Rebreather World

I am having trouble with my new shadow mounts! I have tightend the SS bands on the STA as much as possible, but the mounts still move when i pull the tanks.

Have anyone got any good ideas?

I have tried the following so far:

Duct tape (fail)
Double sided duct tape (fail)
Rubberband for drysuit repair (fail)

Regards Mads

**Fun Under Pressure** · 30th June 2008, 20:01

When you underlay the shadow mounts with thick rubber pads. Like the one who are over cam bands on bc vest´s to protect the tank before throwing about the axis ?? I hope i use the rights words....

Poseidon germany has a underlay rubber for the ss bands. i think that can be usefull to protect the ss bands befor shifting.

steveharriss · 30th June 2008, 20:16

I think they're fundamentally flawed in their initial design. Tiger Mounts or Northern Diver mounts work just great.

Nailer99 · 30th June 2008, 20:21

Quote: (Originally Posted by steveharriss)

I think they're fundamentally flawed in their initial design. Tiger Mounts or Northern Diver mounts work just great.

I thought so too, for the first month or so I had them. Once mine got settled, and kind of "broken in", they started working like a dream, and I love them, now.

Not sure about how to fix the OP's problem, however. Can you maybe show us a picture of yours?

dykkermads · 30th June 2008, 20:41

How did you mount yours since you got them to stay put. (Once they settled?!??!)
I love the low profile the shadow mounts add to the MEG, I just need to figure out this tiny problem.

ATB

/Mads

**Gill Envy** · 30th June 2008, 21:50

I have not had this issue with them... thinking it's an issue with the cam band maybe. sometimes the tensioner malfunctions... best to drop ISC a line.

the only frustration i've had with them is that the pins sometimes stick...like really bad, requiring a hammer to get them out. I experimented with different lubricants to see if there was swomething that would help and the only thing I found that really worked was the chap stick style zipper wax that came with my DUI dry suite.

Also, once you have got them in place on the tank and the stack, if you have to take them off and put them on again, particularly if you are switching to new tanks, make sure the impressions on the band line up with the mounts, otherwise the impressions will push the cordora sleave (you've got the sleaves on right?) out into the way of the pins, making the whole thing too tight.

hope that helps,
g

Nailer99 · 1st July 2008, 14:28

Quote: (Originally Posted by dykkermads)

How did you mount yours since you got them to stay put. (Once they settled?!??!)
I love the low profile the shadow mounts add to the MEG, I just need to figure out this tiny problem.

ATB

/Mads

I just used the stainless steel hose clamps that came with them. I tightened them up, but not excessively, and they haven't budged. Wish I could help you, but I can't figure out what to suggest......

Philippe GERIN · 3rd July 2008, 07:29

On this picture, it seems that ISC just welded the female part to the canister. Is that true or just the picture?
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Best
Philippe

Lancer4545 · 3rd July 2008, 08:12

Hi Mads,

I had Shaddow Mounts and secured them with automotive double sided tape and then cranked down the hose clips as tight as I dared with a 1/4 inch drive socket set. They have a very small "Foot Print" which makes it hard to secure them but if you use this method it seems to work alright.

I had a bit of trouble with the pins too. I found it was a combination of the clip sleeve sitting out a but too far and fouling the other half of the mount and a bit of corrosion. Make sure to seat the clips with a soft hammer so they "Form" to the mount when fitted. You'll most likely find you can tighten the clips a little more when you do it too. The zipper wax sounds like a good fix. I used to use Cristolube and made sure I pulled the pins after every dive.

Regards,

Lance

30th June 2008, 19:16	#1 (permalink)
dykkermads New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denmark Posts: 7	Shadow mounts support Hi Rebreather World I am having trouble with my new shadow mounts! I have tightend the SS bands on the STA as much as possible, but the mounts still move when i pull the tanks. Have anyone got any good ideas? I have tried the following so far: Duct tape (fail) Double sided duct tape (fail) Rubberband for drysuit repair (fail) Regards Mads __________________ MEG No. 802 - FINALLY! -= Silent Ninja Diver =-
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30th June 2008, 20:01	#2 (permalink)
Fun Under Pressure Supporting Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 696	Re: Shadow mounts support When you underlay the shadow mounts with thick rubber pads. Like the one who are over cam bands on bc vest´s to protect the tank before throwing about the axis ?? I hope i use the rights words.... Poseidon germany has a underlay rubber for the ss bands. i think that can be usefull to protect the ss bands befor shifting. __________________ Cheers Markku Meg # 773 Dive my dreams is my life-task
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30th June 2008, 20:16	#3 (permalink)
steveharriss Bubble free by choice Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 165	Re: Shadow mounts support I think they're fundamentally flawed in their initial design. Tiger Mounts or Northern Diver mounts work just great.
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30th June 2008, 20:21	#4 (permalink)
Nailer99 Joshua Smith Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 230	Re: Shadow mounts support Quote: (Originally Posted by steveharriss) I think they're fundamentally flawed in their initial design. Tiger Mounts or Northern Diver mounts work just great. I thought so too, for the first month or so I had them. Once mine got settled, and kind of "broken in", they started working like a dream, and I love them, now. Not sure about how to fix the OP's problem, however. Can you maybe show us a picture of yours?
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30th June 2008, 20:41	#5 (permalink)
dykkermads New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denmark Posts: 7	Re: Shadow mounts support How did you mount yours since you got them to stay put. (Once they settled?!??!) I love the low profile the shadow mounts add to the MEG, I just need to figure out this tiny problem. ATB /Mads __________________ MEG No. 802 - FINALLY! -= Silent Ninja Diver =-
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30th June 2008, 21:50	#6 (permalink)
Gill Envy Shearwater Copis Divers Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Other CCR Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: seattle Posts: 1,314	Re: Shadow mounts support I have not had this issue with them... thinking it's an issue with the cam band maybe. sometimes the tensioner malfunctions... best to drop ISC a line. the only frustration i've had with them is that the pins sometimes stick...like really bad, requiring a hammer to get them out. I experimented with different lubricants to see if there was swomething that would help and the only thing I found that really worked was the chap stick style zipper wax that came with my DUI dry suite. Also, once you have got them in place on the tank and the stack, if you have to take them off and put them on again, particularly if you are switching to new tanks, make sure the impressions on the band line up with the mounts, otherwise the impressions will push the cordora sleave (you've got the sleaves on right?) out into the way of the pins, making the whole thing too tight. hope that helps, g __________________ Gill Envy ...Because I wasn't born with gills! ><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>
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1st July 2008, 14:28	#7 (permalink)
Nailer99 Joshua Smith Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 230	Re: Shadow mounts support Quote: (Originally Posted by dykkermads) How did you mount yours since you got them to stay put. (Once they settled?!??!) I love the low profile the shadow mounts add to the MEG, I just need to figure out this tiny problem. ATB /Mads I just used the stainless steel hose clamps that came with them. I tightened them up, but not excessively, and they haven't budged. Wish I could help you, but I can't figure out what to suggest......
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3rd July 2008, 07:29	#8 (permalink)
Philippe GERIN ccr apprentice Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Strasbourg, France Posts: 636	Re: Shadow mounts support On this picture, it seems that ISC just welded the female part to the canister. Is that true or just the picture? RebreatherWorld Gallery - Meg copis II - Powered by PhotoPost Best Philippe
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3rd July 2008, 08:12	#9 (permalink)
Lancer4545 Closed Circuit Divers Aus Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cairns QLD Australia Posts: 664	Re: Shadow mounts support Hi Mads, I had Shaddow Mounts and secured them with automotive double sided tape and then cranked down the hose clips as tight as I dared with a 1/4 inch drive socket set. They have a very small "Foot Print" which makes it hard to secure them but if you use this method it seems to work alright. I had a bit of trouble with the pins too. I found it was a combination of the clip sleeve sitting out a but too far and fouling the other half of the mount and a bit of corrosion. Make sure to seat the clips with a soft hammer so they "Form" to the mount when fitted. You'll most likely find you can tighten the clips a little more when you do it too. The zipper wax sounds like a good fix. I used to use Cristolube and made sure I pulled the pins after every dive. Regards, Lance __________________ You can run but you can't hide! ISC Appointed Megalodon Dealer for East Australia http://www.closedcircuitdivers.com.au info@closedcircuitdivers.com.au
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