New MEG Partnership?

JAM · 5th June 2008, 03:13

Hey folks,

I have not heard anyone talking about this. It was released by ISC yesterday. Opinions are appreciated....

http://www.customrebreathers.com/SWOEM.pdf

Thank you,

James

diverklondike · 5th June 2008, 03:24

Quote: (Originally Posted by JAM)

Hey folks,

I have not heard anyone talking about this. It was released by ISC yesterday. Opinions are appreciated....

http://www.customrebreathers.com/SWOEM.pdf

Thank you,

James

It's actually been in the works and whispered about for quite a while...

Personally I think it simply confirms that APECS 3.0 is still way out there in the future.

Mark

Eliot Danner · 5th June 2008, 03:27

Quote: (Originally Posted by diverklondike)

Personally I think it simply confirms that APECS 3.0 is still way out there in the future.

Ditto

Bruce makes a damn fine product, it speaks well of ISC that they recognize that.

mountain diver · 5th June 2008, 03:34

Quote: (Originally Posted by diverklondike)

It's actually been in the works and whispered about for quite a while...

Personally I think it simply confirms that APECS 3.0 is still way out there in the future.

Mark

If apecs 3.0 ever happens, Doesn't make sense to reinvent the wheel now.

all the best.

diverklondike · 5th June 2008, 03:36

Quote: (Originally Posted by ForTheFight)

Ditto

Bruce makes a damn fine product, it speaks well of ISC that they recognize that.

Agreed that Bruce makes a nice product, hopefully the ISC Shearwater relationship will workout better the second time around. I have several friends that got burned the last time.

**UWSojourner** · 5th June 2008, 03:38

Quote: (Originally Posted by JAM)

I have not heard anyone talking about this. It was released by ISC yesterday. Opinions are appreciated....

Certainly not a new partnership. The Meg I purchased in 2005 had a Shearwater on it. My understanding is that 1st union wasn't made in heaven, but I liked the Shearwater while it lasted

.

Bruce's software has been the king of KISS. It is easy to use and performs well. While calls for more complexity have been around for awhile, the Shearwater seems to offer an easy to use, faithful implementation of the GF deco method.

Apecs 3.0 must arrive sometime. In the meantime the Shearwater is a very good option IMO.

JCdesign97 · 5th June 2008, 03:59

Quote: (Originally Posted by diverklondike)

Personally I think it simply confirms that APECS 3.0 is still way out there in the future.

I believe I heard someone say that the 12 pounds of shielding they had to add to each handset to make them sufficiently ESD/EMF-resistant was unanimously panned by beta testers

...

but I could be wrong.

JAM · 5th June 2008, 04:10

Quote: (Originally Posted by diverklondike)

Agreed that Bruce makes a nice product, hopefully the ISC Shearwater relationship will workout better the second time around. I have several friends that got burned the last time.

What do you mean burned? I'm not trying to start anything I'm just inexperienced in this arena. I was about fed up with waiting for the new Apecs version. I've been researching this stuff for the last 2+ years and I still feel like I don't know anything!

**UWSojourner** · 5th June 2008, 04:26

Quote: (Originally Posted by JAM)

I've been researching this stuff for the last 2+ years and I still feel like I don't know anything!

UWS's rules of equipment purchase

1) Choose a product at random and you have a 50% chance of wanting to sell it and get something else in the future.

2) Devote countless hours of research before you purchase and you have a 40% chance of wanting to sell it and get something else in the future ... and a 10% chance the product doesn't survive your research period.

Pick something. Dive it lots. Reevaluate. It's about the best you can do. IMO saving money is not a likely outcome of this endeavor.

**UWSojourner** · 5th June 2008, 05:20

I also was one who had one of the early Shearwaters. It was a great system ... and ISC was fair IMO when it failed. And I wouldn't hesitate to get another Shearwater.

The Shearwater system was great ... and ISC was fair ... all my opinion, of course, but I would expect the same from their current arrangement.

5th June 2008, 03:13	#1 (permalink)
JAM New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 12	New MEG Partnership? Hey folks, I have not heard anyone talking about this. It was released by ISC yesterday. Opinions are appreciated.... http://www.customrebreathers.com/SWOEM.pdf Thank you, James
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5th June 2008, 03:24	#2 (permalink)
diverklondike RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,714	Re: New MEG Partnership? Quote: (Originally Posted by JAM) Hey folks, I have not heard anyone talking about this. It was released by ISC yesterday. Opinions are appreciated.... http://www.customrebreathers.com/SWOEM.pdf Thank you, James It's actually been in the works and whispered about for quite a while... Personally I think it simply confirms that APECS 3.0 is still way out there in the future. Mark
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5th June 2008, 03:27	#3 (permalink)
Eliot Danner RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Dolphin Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 227	Re: New MEG Partnership? Quote: (Originally Posted by diverklondike) Personally I think it simply confirms that APECS 3.0 is still way out there in the future. Ditto Bruce makes a damn fine product, it speaks well of ISC that they recognize that. __________________ Eliot Danner CCR Instructor This post may be up to 80% accurate...the remaining 20% is speculation.
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5th June 2008, 03:34	#4 (permalink)
mountain diver Silent Lucidity Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: edmonton, ab. Posts: 228	Re: New MEG Partnership? Quote: (Originally Posted by diverklondike) It's actually been in the works and whispered about for quite a while... Personally I think it simply confirms that APECS 3.0 is still way out there in the future. Mark If apecs 3.0 ever happens, Doesn't make sense to reinvent the wheel now. all the best.
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5th June 2008, 03:36	#5 (permalink)
diverklondike RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,714	Re: New MEG Partnership? Quote: (Originally Posted by ForTheFight) Ditto Bruce makes a damn fine product, it speaks well of ISC that they recognize that. Agreed that Bruce makes a nice product, hopefully the ISC Shearwater relationship will workout better the second time around. I have several friends that got burned the last time.
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5th June 2008, 03:38	#6 (permalink)
UWSojourner Pacific Northwest Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 558	Re: New MEG Partnership? Quote: (Originally Posted by JAM) I have not heard anyone talking about this. It was released by ISC yesterday. Opinions are appreciated.... Certainly not a new partnership. The Meg I purchased in 2005 had a Shearwater on it. My understanding is that 1st union wasn't made in heaven, but I liked the Shearwater while it lasted . Bruce's software has been the king of KISS. It is easy to use and performs well. While calls for more complexity have been around for awhile, the Shearwater seems to offer an easy to use, faithful implementation of the GF deco method. Apecs 3.0 must arrive sometime. In the meantime the Shearwater is a very good option IMO.
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5th June 2008, 03:59	#7 (permalink)
JCdesign97 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: PA, USA Posts: 419	Re: New MEG Partnership? Quote: (Originally Posted by diverklondike) Personally I think it simply confirms that APECS 3.0 is still way out there in the future. I believe I heard someone say that the 12 pounds of shielding they had to add to each handset to make them sufficiently ESD/EMF-resistant was unanimously panned by beta testers ... but I could be wrong. __________________ Cheers, John Cogan
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5th June 2008, 04:10	#8 (permalink)
JAM New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 12	Re: New MEG Partnership? Quote: (Originally Posted by diverklondike) Agreed that Bruce makes a nice product, hopefully the ISC Shearwater relationship will workout better the second time around. I have several friends that got burned the last time. What do you mean burned? I'm not trying to start anything I'm just inexperienced in this arena. I was about fed up with waiting for the new Apecs version. I've been researching this stuff for the last 2+ years and I still feel like I don't know anything!
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5th June 2008, 04:26	#9 (permalink)
UWSojourner Pacific Northwest Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 558	Re: New MEG Partnership? Quote: (Originally Posted by JAM) I've been researching this stuff for the last 2+ years and I still feel like I don't know anything! UWS's rules of equipment purchase 1) Choose a product at random and you have a 50% chance of wanting to sell it and get something else in the future. 2) Devote countless hours of research before you purchase and you have a 40% chance of wanting to sell it and get something else in the future ... and a 10% chance the product doesn't survive your research period. Pick something. Dive it lots. Reevaluate. It's about the best you can do. IMO saving money is not a likely outcome of this endeavor.
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5th June 2008, 05:20	#10 (permalink)
UWSojourner Pacific Northwest Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 558	Re: New MEG Partnership? I also was one who had one of the early Shearwaters. It was a great system ... and ISC was fair IMO when it failed. And I wouldn't hesitate to get another Shearwater. The Shearwater system was great ... and ISC was fair ... all my opinion, of course, but I would expect the same from their current arrangement.
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