Solenoid Servicing

netmage · 20th May 2008, 15:51

Quote: (Originally Posted by tumbler)

Called ISC and they said that there is no formal recommendation on solenoid service. They did, however, say that the O2 will degrade the O rings and that after three years, it's probably time to send it back to them for an overhaul. It figures that I checked right at the start of the diving season.

I got the feeling they would prefer to do the service, but it is not a standard part of a head service unless the customer asks for it to be done.

What is part of 'standard' head service...?

Hyper-limits · 20th May 2008, 17:40

Quote: (Originally Posted by netmage)

What is part of 'standard' head service...?

Same question here, if they don't service the selonoid which I'm very surprise about. What are some of the requirement that ISC perform when doing a head service?

Al

PacketSniffer · 20th May 2008, 18:22

Quote: (Originally Posted by Hyper-limits)

What are some of the requirement that ISC perform when doing a head service?

I'm sure that kind of information is on ISC's web site.

Hyper-limits · 21st May 2008, 01:16

Quote: (Originally Posted by PacketSniffer)

I'm sure that kind of information is on ISC's web site.

Not, maybe I just missed it or maybe I'm not looking hard enough.

Al

denismc66 · 21st May 2008, 20:51

Does, anyone know how much a new solenoid costs?.
Depending on the cost it might be easier just to replace the solenoid every couple of years

mempilot · 21st May 2008, 21:21

Quote: (Originally Posted by divingabe)

Here is a link on a step by step procedureAttachment 8702

Does anyone have a similiar document for the Wattsmeiser solenoid? I have the old solenoid with the big orfice.

PacketSniffer · 22nd May 2008, 05:27

Quote: (Originally Posted by Hyper-limits)

Not, maybe I just missed it or maybe I'm not looking hard enough.

Al

Sorry. My statement was dripping with sarcasm. Didn't you see the sarcasm smilie or are you reading these in plain text ?

PacketSniffer · 22nd May 2008, 05:30

Quote: (Originally Posted by denismc66)

Does, anyone know how much a new solenoid costs?.
Depending on the cost it might be easier just to replace the solenoid every couple of years

The current and correct (earlier versions were not stainless in critical areas thus rusting) replacement Jaksa solenoid is several hundred dollars (as in like $600 ~ $700 USD) according to Steven at ISC.

Dive!Dive! · 22nd May 2008, 07:13

Quote: (Originally Posted by PacketSniffer)

The current and correct (earlier versions were not stainless in critical areas thus rusting) replacement Jaksa solenoid is several hundred dollars (as in like $600 ~ $700 USD) according to Steven at ISC.

Wow ! That seems VERY expensive. I have no other point of reference, but somehow expected a lot less than that.

Servicing the Jaksa seemed pretty easy to me. I had some good advice to make sure all the threads on the fittings were clear of PTFE tape. I used a very small stainless steel brush on a dremel followed by a good long blast my ultrasound bath, and had a good look with a mangifier afterwards.So far. so good. Incidentally, the interior of mine was squeaky clean after the first year of use, with only the o-rings requiring some attention

Cheers
Steve

jknox · 22nd May 2008, 08:28

Quote: (Originally Posted by denismc66)

Does, anyone know how much a new solenoid costs?.
Depending on the cost it might be easier just to replace the solenoid every couple of years

When I replaced mine around Jan-Feb of this year it was 150USD, so perhaps that was the incorrect soon to rust model??

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netmage Hello Kitty...... Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coconut Creek, FL Posts: 440	Re: Solenoid Servicing Quote: (Originally Posted by tumbler) Called ISC and they said that there is no formal recommendation on solenoid service. They did, however, say that the O2 will degrade the O rings and that after three years, it's probably time to send it back to them for an overhaul. It figures that I checked right at the start of the diving season. I got the feeling they would prefer to do the service, but it is not a standard part of a head service unless the customer asks for it to be done. What is part of 'standard' head service...?
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Hyper-limits Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Victoria BC Canada Posts: 128	Re: Solenoid Servicing Quote: (Originally Posted by netmage) What is part of 'standard' head service...? Same question here, if they don't service the selonoid which I'm very surprise about. What are some of the requirement that ISC perform when doing a head service? Al __________________ "The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear. And the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown" H.P. Lovecraft
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Hyper-limits Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Victoria BC Canada Posts: 128	Re: Solenoid Servicing Quote: (Originally Posted by PacketSniffer) I'm sure that kind of information is on ISC's web site. Not, maybe I just missed it or maybe I'm not looking hard enough. Al __________________ "The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear. And the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown" H.P. Lovecraft
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denismc66 New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 16	Re: Solenoid Servicing Does, anyone know how much a new solenoid costs?. Depending on the cost it might be easier just to replace the solenoid every couple of years
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PacketSniffer ~~~~~ #417 ~~~~~ Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Houston Posts: 436	Re: Solenoid Servicing Quote: (Originally Posted by denismc66) Does, anyone know how much a new solenoid costs?. Depending on the cost it might be easier just to replace the solenoid every couple of years The current and correct (earlier versions were not stainless in critical areas thus rusting) replacement Jaksa solenoid is several hundred dollars (as in like $600 ~ $700 USD) according to Steven at ISC. __________________ Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checked by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory or defeat.
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Dive!Dive! New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Somerset, UK Posts: 93	Re: Solenoid Servicing Quote: (Originally Posted by PacketSniffer) The current and correct (earlier versions were not stainless in critical areas thus rusting) replacement Jaksa solenoid is several hundred dollars (as in like $600 ~ $700 USD) according to Steven at ISC. Wow ! That seems VERY expensive. I have no other point of reference, but somehow expected a lot less than that. Servicing the Jaksa seemed pretty easy to me. I had some good advice to make sure all the threads on the fittings were clear of PTFE tape. I used a very small stainless steel brush on a dremel followed by a good long blast my ultrasound bath, and had a good look with a mangifier afterwards.So far. so good. Incidentally, the interior of mine was squeaky clean after the first year of use, with only the o-rings requiring some attention Cheers Steve
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jknox New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 37	Re: Solenoid Servicing Quote: (Originally Posted by denismc66) Does, anyone know how much a new solenoid costs?. Depending on the cost it might be easier just to replace the solenoid every couple of years When I replaced mine around Jan-Feb of this year it was 150USD, so perhaps that was the incorrect soon to rust model?? __________________ That's not America! That's not even Mexico...
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