Diverite Nomad or Transplate; Buttplate; Rec Wing??

Dinspiration

Hi

Does somebody has experience in using the Diverite Nomad or Transplate harness, buttplate and a rec wing with a MEG? So both solutions should allow to sidemount the bailout stages....

Are there some strong pro and cons for the one or other configuration or does it finally boils down to a personal preference??

DINspiration

Tienuts

Lots of guys here dive the Meg with the sidemount plates. Never heard any complaints.

You don't need to specifically use the TransPac, Nomad or Rec wing if you just want to sidemount - you can add the buttplate to damn near any backplate.

Dinspiration

Yes - I know that you can mount the buttplate on quite every backplate.

I'm interested to get some user feedback about the Diverite Nomad or the Diverite Transplate with a rec wing used on a MEG. E.g. what was the reason to choose one or the other configuration? And after using it, did you found any strong advantages or disadvantages....

Philippe GERIN

No experience on the Rec wing but the Trek or similar ones:
The Wing of the Diverite Nomad is a bit longer than the Rec and of course the Trek.
It's easier to use a Backplate w/ the DR Transplate, or any harness system, with the GG buttplate than the DR. Just fits better as the DR buttplate was design primarily to be used with the Transpac and not a BP. It has extra webbing that you don't need. The GG buttplate screws into the BP directly, nothing else.
I personnaly prefer not to mix the components of the Nomad with other systems.
Either I use the Nomad complete with its wing and buttplate, but I prefer to add a bone plate sandwiched between the Transpac and the Nomad wing, for stability. Remember that the Nomad wing is to be used inside the Transpac, not outside as standard wings. Or I use the GG buttplate with an Oxycheq 50lbs or Vertex 52lbs or DR Trek, BP and different adjustable harnesses (DR Transplate, Oxycheq, DSS adjustable harness or others).
Either case, for the top part (tank neck), I prefer to use the bungy system of the Nomad system than the one from the GG. I just find easier to clip to the chest D-rings as opposed to reach back to retrieve the bungy loops of the GG system.
Hope this helps.
Best
Philippe

Dinspiration

Yes this helps a lot - Exactly the feedback I needed.
Within an older thread you wrote that with CCR and bailout SM the nomad wing will be placed in the standard position between the transpac and rebreather. Is this still the way how you are using it?
I think the standard configuration is not stable enough and the rebreather will nod on your back. But with the additional bone plate you should get quite the same stability of a standard backplate. The hint with the bone plate is great!

DINspiration

Philippe GERIN

Correct. You can. I started to use it like that but I came back to the original/intented way after some time. The wing has enough lift that I don't worry about restricting inflation anymore. At the surface, even if inflation is restricted @ the top part of the wing, it's not a prob as I inflate the CLs to the max to make up for it and I always dive in drysuit.
On the Meg, I'm still playing with it because of the OTS CLs and the routing of the BC inflation corrugated hose: I don't like having it against my neck coming down my chest. I prefer to have it on my left shoulder and down the outside of the CLs (I hope the descrition is clear enough). But for that I got a super-loooong inflation corugated hose (can check the length if you'd like)to route it horizontally-ish toward my left shoulder and then down along the left CL. I still need to practice it to a level that I will like it. If I don't like it enough, I may try again along the neck.
Best
Philippe

johanvanlyl

I support Philippe's view : i am using my ex-opencircuit transpac harness and added a very heavy home made stainless steel backplate for stability of the rig and for trim.

johanvanlyl

i support Philippe' s view : i as well use a transpac harness (leftover from my open circuit days) and added a home made very heavy stainless steel backplate for stability of the rig and trim.
I got rid of my bulky oms bladder and ordered a smaller wing from deep outdoors which just fits nicely onto the meg, whilst routing hoses through instead of 'on top'. It has a pull dump valve that even works when the corrugated hose is stowed onder my arm instead of over the shoulder.
Sidemounting 12ltr alu is no problem

Hope this helps

johan

mempilot

I just added a Dive Rite butt mount plate to my Meg setup. Here is my whole setup and comments that might help.

Cave Meg (short can; causes problems with tall wings; still looking for solution, maybe DR Trek)
OMS Singles Wing (too long for the short canister of the Cave Meg)
OMS SS or AL backplates
One piece 2" harness
DR side mount butt plate; custom upper bungees; I like the DR over the other brands because the rails are spaced further apart and easier to reach.

I run the inflation hose outside the exhale counterlung, held in place by the upper velcro loop of the CL.

I run the ADV hose down the inside of the T-Piece.

I have a 6cf drysuit inflation bottle mounted in a DR harness on diver's left. This does interfere a little with reaching around to clip off the butt clip. Not a problem underwater though.

The DR Butt Plate is not bolted to my backplate, as the holes do not line up between the OMS plate and the DR Butt Plate. No big deal though, because the DR Butt Plate comes with two loops of webbing that allow the waist belt to be threaded through on each side. This works great. I then mount the 2" crotch strap to the supplied mounting position on the DR Butt Plate. Now, I can just move the whole setup over to the AL backplate in about an minute.

I leave my bailout and deco bottles rigged the same as I did for sling mount, but I rotate the harnes on the bottle so it lines up 180 degrees from the tank valve wheel. This if for the bungee to loop over the knob/wheel when the knob is perpendicular to the body.

The reason I made my own bungees for the top of the system is too be able to shorten them or lengthen them for either wet or dry suit. I found my first attempt was too short. They were too tight in the drysuit. I will be lengthening them for the next set of dives. I use a quick-link on the top side hole on the plate, and run a doubled medium bungee to a snap-bolt that hooks into the chest d-ring. I just pull the bungee down and put the tank valve on the bungee.

I must say this, even though my custom bungees were too short on the last dives: The Dive Rite system works great with Meg. It really streamlines the rig. Once I lengthen the bungees, the system should be perfect. When I roll sideways to get through a tight spot in a wreck, the bottles stay streamline to the body.

The only downfall is making sure the top of the tanks don't fall out when doing a giant stride off a boat.

Right now, I bail out to offboard with my Meg. The DR sidemount works fine for this. I don't bungee the SPGs back over like I used to. I just let them stick straight forward/up to make them visible with the bottles further back than they used to be.

I'm not sure if this helped at all, but between my Meg with the DR and a buddy's Meg with another brand, the DR seems easier to reach the rails in the back.

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Eric Stadtmueller, otherwise known as, MEM "Da Pilot"

Philippe GERIN

I had that too. I now mount it higher on the BP with a simple loop of 2" weebing bolted to the plate and a bungy loop to retain the neck of this tiny tank.
Interesting, is the OMS BP narrower than other plates? I couldn't do that with the BP I'm using. This is why I'm using "the other brand" with a BP and the DR buttplate with the Transpac.
I agree again but in my experience the DR buttplate is stiffer than "the other brand" so it's not so practicle when you set your breather up on a table. But that's just being picky. and you may not see that with your setup using the loops VS the bolts.
Best
Philippe