CLs attachment and Scootering

Philippe GERIN · 23rd January 2008, 19:54

Hi Gang!
I've scootered with my Copis and I was not really comfortable with the combination crotch strap/CLs attachment clips.
Is it better with the DSS CL attachment hardware ?
Best
Philippe

***Decodiver*** · 23rd January 2008, 20:00

Hi Philippe,

When you coming to visit?

I have put a D-Ring threaded onto the Meg crotch strap and use that as a scooter ring with no problems, are you threading the webbing belt through the loop? That is what I do.

Cheers,

Dave.

gtzavelas · 24th January 2008, 09:15

Quote: (Originally Posted by Philippe GERIN)

Hi Gang!
I've scootered with my Copis and I was not really comfortable with the combination crotch strap/CLs attachment clips.
Is it better with the DSS CL attachment hardware ?
Best
Philippe

hi,
after a few dives i removed the ISC crotch strap with the CL clips.
I am now clipping the bottom of the CL to the bottom of my backplate,
I am sure I have seen some pictures somewere as there are more people doing that.
It improved a lot (for me at least) not just the scootering but also the CL position

**offpro** · 24th January 2008, 10:31

Quote: (Originally Posted by gtzavelas)

hi,
after a few dives i removed the ISC crotch strap with the CL clips.
I am now clipping the bottom of the CL to the bottom of my backplate,
I am sure I have seen some pictures somewere as there are more people doing that.
It improved a lot (for me at least) not just the scootering but also the CL position

pictures please...

do you fasten it to the backplate with a bolt snap/dog clip?

Philippe GERIN · 24th January 2008, 19:24

Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver)

When you coming to visit?.

Yup, we need to hookup offline. Right now, I must say I feel better diving the Med than an Alpine lake or a quarry in Eastern France.

I had my share of cold water diving.

Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver)

I have put a D-Ring threaded onto the Meg crotch strap and use that as a scooter ring with no problems, are you threading the webbing belt through the loop? That is what I do.
Cheers,
Dave.

I'm using the crotch strap delivered with my Meg threaded as it should be with the clips for the CLs. Scootering, it pulls far forward if loose. If not it still pulls on the CLs. I'd like a solution that keeps the CLs close to my body scootering or not.
Best
Philippe

Philippe GERIN · 24th January 2008, 19:26

Quote: (Originally Posted by gtzavelas)

I have seen some pictures somewere

Yes, pictures please!
Best
Philippe

jo_c · 24th January 2008, 22:19

Quote: (Originally Posted by Philippe GERIN)

Yes, pictures please!
Best
Philippe

This is how I attach mine..

Gilles · 25th January 2008, 02:50

Quote: (Originally Posted by gtzavelas)

hi,
after a few dives i removed the ISC crotch strap with the CL clips.
I am now clipping the bottom of the CL to the bottom of my backplate,
I am sure I have seen some pictures somewere as there are more people doing that.
It improved a lot (for me at least) not just the scootering but also the CL position

Ditto. I had a photo but cannot find it. Similiar to the way jo_c does it.

Advantages;

1) Simplifies rig-up (No need to secure CL's during rig up)

2) Lower profile. The CL's are directed under your arm pit. When squeezing through tight passages, the CL's are unaffected whilst your belly gets scraped.

3) Less tapping of the OPV and ADV when reel handling or whatever. These things are kept out of the way, yet easily accesible when needed.

Dis-advantages;

1) ADV slightly affected but still works (I'm confident I can make it work better somehow).

In general, I consider this a better way of rigging up the Meg (acknowledgements C. Verdier).

**Fun Under Pressure** · 25th January 2008, 07:31

Quote: (Originally Posted by jo_c)

This is how I attach mine..

No problems with site mounted stage tanks ???

Cheers Markku

Gilles · 25th January 2008, 08:00

Quote: (Originally Posted by Fun Under Pressure)

No problems with site mounted stage tanks ???

Cheers Markku

On this only photo I have, my side mount bungy is too long. Has been tightened up since and works fine (on both sides at the same time).

If you look closely, you can see a length of caveline (since been replace by a clipped bungee) going to the bottom of my BP. This is attached to the bottom of the CL. The top CL is attached to nothing. Only the topmost velcro flap to the harness, and the loop keeps that part in place just fine.

23rd January 2008, 19:54	#1 (permalink)
Philippe GERIN ccr apprentice Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Strasbourg, France Posts: 626	CLs attachment and Scootering Hi Gang! I've scootered with my Copis and I was not really comfortable with the combination crotch strap/CLs attachment clips. Is it better with the DSS CL attachment hardware ? Best Philippe
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23rd January 2008, 20:00	#2 (permalink)
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24th January 2008, 09:15	#3 (permalink)
gtzavelas Rebreather World Writer Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon RB80 / Clone Other Rebreather/s: RB80 / Clone Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Athens,Greece Posts: 230	Re: CLs attachment and Scootering Quote: (Originally Posted by Philippe GERIN) Hi Gang! I've scootered with my Copis and I was not really comfortable with the combination crotch strap/CLs attachment clips. Is it better with the DSS CL attachment hardware ? Best Philippe hi, after a few dives i removed the ISC crotch strap with the CL clips. I am now clipping the bottom of the CL to the bottom of my backplate, I am sure I have seen some pictures somewere as there are more people doing that. It improved a lot (for me at least) not just the scootering but also the CL position
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24th January 2008, 10:31	#4 (permalink)
offpro Supporting Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: tromsø, norway Posts: 71	Re: CLs attachment and Scootering Quote: (Originally Posted by gtzavelas) hi, after a few dives i removed the ISC crotch strap with the CL clips. I am now clipping the bottom of the CL to the bottom of my backplate, I am sure I have seen some pictures somewere as there are more people doing that. It improved a lot (for me at least) not just the scootering but also the CL position pictures please... do you fasten it to the backplate with a bolt snap/dog clip?
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24th January 2008, 19:24	#5 (permalink)
Philippe GERIN ccr apprentice Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Strasbourg, France Posts: 626	Re: CLs attachment and Scootering Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver) When you coming to visit?. Yup, we need to hookup offline. Right now, I must say I feel better diving the Med than an Alpine lake or a quarry in Eastern France. I had my share of cold water diving. Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver) I have put a D-Ring threaded onto the Meg crotch strap and use that as a scooter ring with no problems, are you threading the webbing belt through the loop? That is what I do. Cheers, Dave. I'm using the crotch strap delivered with my Meg threaded as it should be with the clips for the CLs. Scootering, it pulls far forward if loose. If not it still pulls on the CLs. I'd like a solution that keeps the CLs close to my body scootering or not. Best Philippe
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24th January 2008, 19:26	#6 (permalink)
Philippe GERIN ccr apprentice Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Strasbourg, France Posts: 626	Re: CLs attachment and Scootering Quote: (Originally Posted by gtzavelas) I have seen some pictures somewere Yes, pictures please! Best Philippe
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jo_c Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hants, UK Posts: 140	Re: CLs attachment and Scootering Quote: (Originally Posted by Philippe GERIN) Yes, pictures please! Best Philippe This is how I attach mine..
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25th January 2008, 02:50	#8 (permalink)
Gilles Worship the feminine Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Den Haag (Netherlands) Posts: 761	Re: CLs attachment and Scootering Quote: (Originally Posted by gtzavelas) hi, after a few dives i removed the ISC crotch strap with the CL clips. I am now clipping the bottom of the CL to the bottom of my backplate, I am sure I have seen some pictures somewere as there are more people doing that. It improved a lot (for me at least) not just the scootering but also the CL position Ditto. I had a photo but cannot find it. Similiar to the way jo_c does it. Advantages; 1) Simplifies rig-up (No need to secure CL's during rig up) 2) Lower profile. The CL's are directed under your arm pit. When squeezing through tight passages, the CL's are unaffected whilst your belly gets scraped. 3) Less tapping of the OPV and ADV when reel handling or whatever. These things are kept out of the way, yet easily accesible when needed. Dis-advantages; 1) ADV slightly affected but still works (I'm confident I can make it work better somehow). In general, I consider this a better way of rigging up the Meg (acknowledgements C. Verdier). __________________ Gilles http://www.dirrebreather.com Last edited by Gilles : 25th January 2008 at 03:08.
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Fun Under Pressure Supporting Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 594	Re: CLs attachment and Scootering Quote: (Originally Posted by jo_c) This is how I attach mine.. No problems with site mounted stage tanks ??? Cheers Markku
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