Shoulder Weighting the Meg

Lancer4545 · 6th January 2008, 11:13

I have been working on lightening the Meg to make it easier to transport OS and have settled on a Golem light weight SS backplate and Dive Rite TransPlate harness. It has reduced the weight very dramatically from the DR SS backplate and Deluxe Harness.

I am still slightly negatively buoyant with my wetsuit but I am now very butt heavy or shoulder light. To compensate this I have attached a couple of weight pockets to the top of the tanks with a couple of hose clamps. It seems to work well and is the best option I have tried so far. The other has been attaching weights to the top of the harness under the CLs.

What I'd like to know is what you have been using and found to be the best way of adding weight to the top of the Meg? I am open to suggestions and keen to hear what you have been using.

Thanks,

Lance

divingabe · 6th January 2008, 12:00

Hey Lance. I have bolted two solid weights directly to the backplate between the plate and the wings. I was able to mount them high enough, and uncluttered the harness. Whenever I travel I just bring along the mounting bolts and borrow the necessary weight.
Gabe

jo_c · 6th January 2008, 13:51

I have 2 Narked at 60 trim weight pockets bolted to the top of my backplate. You can put hard or soft weights into them - whatever you find at your destination.

mattmexico · 6th January 2008, 13:54

yo

I am using hose clamps to attach them weights on top of my inverted tanks and depending of fresh or salt water as well as choice of thermal protection I may change the weights. When traveling I just take the hose clamps with me and borrow some weights. Works well.

In sidemount cave diving I attach weights directly to the shoulder harness. Just be carefull when you put the unit on or play around with it to make sure you don't knock yourself out cold ...

greetings
Matt

**wedivebc** · 6th January 2008, 15:29

One technique I suggest you don't try is one I saw have rather unfortunate results. One individual put ankle weights attached to the shoulder D-rings and had them placed inside the pockets behind the CLs. This got into such a position as to prevent the ADV from bottoming out and was even making it difficult to manually operate it. He was a student in training and reacted to the reduced CL volume by shallow breathing which resulted in a mild CO2 hit. Those of us who choose not to use a BOV rely heavily on the ADVs ability to deliver lots of gas when needed.

mixedangased · 6th January 2008, 15:57

Quote: (Originally Posted by wedivebc)

One technique I suggest you don't try is one I saw have rather unfortunate results. One individual put ankle weights attached to the shoulder D-rings and had them placed inside the pockets behind the CLs. This got into such a position as to prevent the ADV from bottoming out and was even making it difficult to manually operate it. He was a student in training and reacted to the reduced CL volume by shallow breathing which resulted in a mild CO2 hit. Those of us who choose not to use a BOV rely heavily on the ADVs ability to deliver lots of gas when needed.

i`ve used this method for about 2 1/2 yrs with no probs,the only thing i`ve changed is the adv is fed on the outside of the c/l,still delivers all the gas i need and saves swopping weights from tank to tank

Muzz · 6th January 2008, 17:33

Look in the store. They carry SS handles that you swap out with the standard delrin handle.
The way I solved my feet dropping from down when I stop swimming horizontal, was to switch fins. I was using jet fins at first which are negative. I thought, if I can find a pair of fins that kick and maneuver just as good but are neutral in the water it should solve the problem. I now use the DR fin, swims the same as my jets without the weight.
Well that's the way I solved my problem, when I stop I'm still in the exact position.
Good Luck
Steve

scuba_phil · 6th January 2008, 18:35

I just attached weights to the tanks. Currently Im using 2 lbs on each tank. I would like to just have a 4lb handle (hint to Monkey) and stop using these weights. My buddy attached weights to his harness (behind his CL) but complains of back pain. I think this is because he needs to solve the CG issue on the MEG its self and not on his body.

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brandonmc · 6th January 2008, 19:21

Quote: (Originally Posted by mixedangased)

i`ve used this method for about 2 1/2 yrs with no probs,the only thing i`ve changed is the adv is fed on the outside of the c/l,still delivers all the gas i need and saves swopping weights from tank to tank

I have been stuffing soft weights in the counter lung pockets and have had no issues with the ADV firing, but I am looking to change to a more permanent solution.

Quote: (Originally Posted by divingabe)

Hey Lance. I have bolted two solid weights directly to the backplate between the plate and the wings. I was able to mount them high enough, and uncluttered the harness. Whenever I travel I just bring along the mounting bolts and borrow the necessary weight. Gabe

Gabe, do you happen to have any pics of your set-up? Thanks.

***ScubaDadMiami*** · 6th January 2008, 20:53

As mentioned by Muzz, you should check out the Rebreather World Store weights that Monkey has had made just for Meg divers with this problems.

6th January 2008, 11:13	#1 (permalink)
Lancer4545 Closed Circuit Divers Aus Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cairns QLD Australia Posts: 574	Shoulder Weighting the Meg I have been working on lightening the Meg to make it easier to transport OS and have settled on a Golem light weight SS backplate and Dive Rite TransPlate harness. It has reduced the weight very dramatically from the DR SS backplate and Deluxe Harness. I am still slightly negatively buoyant with my wetsuit but I am now very butt heavy or shoulder light. To compensate this I have attached a couple of weight pockets to the top of the tanks with a couple of hose clamps. It seems to work well and is the best option I have tried so far. The other has been attaching weights to the top of the harness under the CLs. What I'd like to know is what you have been using and found to be the best way of adding weight to the top of the Meg? I am open to suggestions and keen to hear what you have been using. Thanks, Lance __________________ You can run but you can't hide! ISC Appointed Megalodon Dealer for East Australia http://www.closedcircuitdivers.com.au info@closedcircuitdivers.com.au
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6th January 2008, 12:00	#2 (permalink)
divingabe New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sag Harbor Posts: 74	Re: Shoulder Weighting the Meg Hey Lance. I have bolted two solid weights directly to the backplate between the plate and the wings. I was able to mount them high enough, and uncluttered the harness. Whenever I travel I just bring along the mounting bolts and borrow the necessary weight. Gabe
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6th January 2008, 13:51	#3 (permalink)
jo_c Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hants, UK Posts: 140	Re: Shoulder Weighting the Meg I have 2 Narked at 60 trim weight pockets bolted to the top of my backplate. You can put hard or soft weights into them - whatever you find at your destination.
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6th January 2008, 13:54	#4 (permalink)
mattmexico Rebreather World Writer Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Optima RB80 / Clone Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Evolution Prism Topaz Sport Kiss RB80 / Clone Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Mexico, Q.Roo, Playa del Carmen Posts: 752	Re: Shoulder Weighting the Meg yo I am using hose clamps to attach them weights on top of my inverted tanks and depending of fresh or salt water as well as choice of thermal protection I may change the weights. When traveling I just take the hose clamps with me and borrow some weights. Works well. In sidemount cave diving I attach weights directly to the shoulder harness. Just be carefull when you put the unit on or play around with it to make sure you don't knock yourself out cold ... greetings Matt __________________ N 20' 37.617' W 87' 04.693' www.andreaswmatthes.com
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6th January 2008, 15:29	#5 (permalink)
wedivebc FIGJAM Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Vancouver Island BC Canada Posts: 1,358	Re: Shoulder Weighting the Meg One technique I suggest you don't try is one I saw have rather unfortunate results. One individual put ankle weights attached to the shoulder D-rings and had them placed inside the pockets behind the CLs. This got into such a position as to prevent the ADV from bottoming out and was even making it difficult to manually operate it. He was a student in training and reacted to the reduced CL volume by shallow breathing which resulted in a mild CO2 hit. Those of us who choose not to use a BOV rely heavily on the ADVs ability to deliver lots of gas when needed. __________________ Cheers, Dave.... Man is the only animal burdened with the knowledge he will eventually die
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6th January 2008, 15:57	#6 (permalink)
mixedangased mixedangased Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: gloucestershire Posts: 58	Re: Shoulder Weighting the Meg Quote: (Originally Posted by wedivebc) One technique I suggest you don't try is one I saw have rather unfortunate results. One individual put ankle weights attached to the shoulder D-rings and had them placed inside the pockets behind the CLs. This got into such a position as to prevent the ADV from bottoming out and was even making it difficult to manually operate it. He was a student in training and reacted to the reduced CL volume by shallow breathing which resulted in a mild CO2 hit. Those of us who choose not to use a BOV rely heavily on the ADVs ability to deliver lots of gas when needed. i`ve used this method for about 2 1/2 yrs with no probs,the only thing i`ve changed is the adv is fed on the outside of the c/l,still delivers all the gas i need and saves swopping weights from tank to tank __________________ if it ain`t broke,fix it till`it is!
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6th January 2008, 17:33	#7 (permalink)
Muzz New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pompano Beach FL Posts: 114	Re: Shoulder Weighting the Meg Look in the store. They carry SS handles that you swap out with the standard delrin handle. The way I solved my feet dropping from down when I stop swimming horizontal, was to switch fins. I was using jet fins at first which are negative. I thought, if I can find a pair of fins that kick and maneuver just as good but are neutral in the water it should solve the problem. I now use the DR fin, swims the same as my jets without the weight. Well that's the way I solved my problem, when I stop I'm still in the exact position. Good Luck Steve Last edited by Muzz : 6th January 2008 at 17:42.
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6th January 2008, 18:35	#8 (permalink)
scuba_phil New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 31	Re: Shoulder Weighting the Meg I just attached weights to the tanks. Currently Im using 2 lbs on each tank. I would like to just have a 4lb handle (hint to Monkey) and stop using these weights. My buddy attached weights to his harness (behind his CL) but complains of back pain. I think this is because he needs to solve the CG issue on the MEG its self and not on his body. DSCN1145.JPG DSCN1147.JPG Last edited by scuba_phil : 6th January 2008 at 18:38.
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6th January 2008, 19:21	#9 (permalink)
brandonmc New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 76	Re: Shoulder Weighting the Meg Quote: (Originally Posted by mixedangased) i`ve used this method for about 2 1/2 yrs with no probs,the only thing i`ve changed is the adv is fed on the outside of the c/l,still delivers all the gas i need and saves swopping weights from tank to tank I have been stuffing soft weights in the counter lung pockets and have had no issues with the ADV firing, but I am looking to change to a more permanent solution. Quote: (Originally Posted by divingabe) Hey Lance. I have bolted two solid weights directly to the backplate between the plate and the wings. I was able to mount them high enough, and uncluttered the harness. Whenever I travel I just bring along the mounting bolts and borrow the necessary weight. Gabe Gabe, do you happen to have any pics of your set-up? Thanks. __________________ http://mcjangles.blogspot.com/
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6th January 2008, 20:53	#10 (permalink)
*ScubaDadMiami* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 1,939	Re: Shoulder Weighting the Meg As mentioned by Muzz, you should check out the Rebreather World Store weights that Monkey has had made just for Meg divers with this problems. __________________ Howard Packer IANTD CCR Instructor Miami Beach, Florida CCRDiveTraining.com
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