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Old 31st December 2007, 18:03   #21 (permalink)
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Re: From Shadow mounts to Metalsub

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Would it work with a few small SS rods instead of the sheet as well? Seems the rods would provide a smoother surface for the cam band to wind around and a bit of a groove for the tank to sit it.

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Just my .02
If you use rods, it is possible that the pressure would not be distributed evenly enough around the canister and distortion could occur.
I do not know how much of a centralized pressure the canister can take before a leak will develop.
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Old 31st December 2007, 19:25   #22 (permalink)
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Re: From Shadow mounts to Metalsub

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Just my .02
If you use rods, it is possible that the pressure would not be distributed evenly enough around the canister and distortion could occur.
I do not know how much of a centralized pressure the canister can take before a leak will develop.
Good point.


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Re: From Shadow mounts to Metalsub

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Using a wide piece of alum, as you are, might help with attaching smaller diameter tanks.

With my Faber steel 19s/3Ls, which only have a 3.9 inch/9.9 cm diameter, I find that both my Scubapro and DiveRite cam cleats just don't work - they are designed to work with larger diameter tanks. It appears that most cam cleats I can find on the internet are set up for 5.5" min diameter tanks.

Adding length to the straps, by using a broader canister attachment strip, as you have, might just be the trick I need to attach my smaller tanks.

BTW, what type of cam cleats/buckles are you using?

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Hey Bill,

i am using normal Zeagle cam cleats or bands as you call them. i dont know if there are different types. never searched than one really. the ones i got are the same that come from zeagle from their BCs...

i was close to a zeagle dealer in cyprus so i got a few of them. if you cannot find any, i can get some for you and send you. i got them for 13 Cyprus pounds each.

i have the same tanks as you and they work fine for me. off course if bigger diameter, then it works much better.

hope it helps.

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Re: From Shadow mounts to Metalsub

to use std clamps with small dia bottles, you can put a small bend in the metal wire of the clamp. this increases the over centre action. sorry i have no photo, but it does work
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Re: From Shadow mounts to Metalsub

Outlaw,

Thanks, I think I can track them from this end.


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Thanks for the idea.

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Re: From Shadow mounts to Metalsub

Outlaw:

I found something in the US on the internet called "Soft Tank Band & Cam Buckle Assemble" that look identical to the ones in your photos, but without the "Zeagle" name. Ordered 4 at $14.95 US each. They arrived today, appear to be robust in design and, while being very light, hold my smaller diameter tanks perfectly.

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Re: From Shadow mounts to Metalsub

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Outlaw:

I found something in the US on the internet called "Soft Tank Band & Cam Buckle Assemble" that look identical to the ones in your photos, but without the "Zeagle" name. Ordered 4 at $14.95 US each. They arrived today, appear to be robust in design and, while being very light, hold my smaller diameter tanks perfectly.

Thanks for the help,

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Hey Bill,

it seems that you got yourself a big bargain over there. just thinking that i paid some 13 cyprus pounds for each makes me go mad. i am glad you managed to get some. can you post the link to me please? would like to order some more...

can't wait to hear your personal views on the setup. wish you luck mate!

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Re: From Shadow mounts to Metalsub

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hello all,

i dont know what you mean by small SS rods, but i can only speak for this system as it works for me. it was a piece of aluminium, which i covered with black tape because i wanted it to be black , and i stuck it in there and secured it with the clips.

i had 4 velcro straps. i chose to put 4, i thought it would be best. if i have the 3 litre, i think is the closest they could get to the can, and having the valves upright, makes me carry the meg by grabing it from both valves...(from each tank)

anyway, here a few more pictures which i took today in the sun hoping you could get a clearer picture. i trully believe that you'll throw all shadow mounts, and tiger gear after this.

in fact, i have 2 sets of shadow mounts, with another 2 male parts, and never used underwater, or probably used once. i am selling those if anyone is interested.

Also, i put 2 zeagle weight pockets i had found in my shed which i had been using in the past, and therefore, i have a place to add weight accordingly if i want to. when i am not diving, they serve as a place to keep the meg handsets while carring it here and there....

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the back plate you are seeing in these photos is not the one i use right now, but i plan to start using but my problem is that the screws are too far out, and the butterfly screw need to be changed or i need to find shorter ones, and low surface screws. i believe that way, i am eliminating my weight for travelling a lot more. here are the pics so you realise what i am talking about. if by any chance you have an idea, then let me know please...

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i am traveling to Lebanon for the Victoria dive in April and this is the first time i am travelling with my meg, so never thought of eliminating excess weight before...

Thanks guys for finding this setup interesting. it makes me sure that i did not make the wrong move. Well, the credit goes to Cedric, cause i saw it off him...

i wait for your comments.

Thanks, and Happy new year all.

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Re: From Shadow mounts to Metalsub

Outlaw:

Here is the link:

Soft Tank Band & Cam Buckle Assemble from LeisurePro.com

I had priced the other models (DiveRite, S-Pro, etc.) and, like you, was impressed by how much they cost. I wasn't aware you could buy anything for $14.95 US for diving, but I've ordered from the company before and know first hand that they have a good return policy. So I figured I would order them and if they didn't look good return them. No foul no harm.

Now that I have them in my hands, I like them and will keep them.

They come with the male velcro sewn on the tip of the belt and the female velcro on a "sliding" pad, so that you can mate it up with the fixed male velcro regardless of the diameter of the tank you are using. That means the overall thickness of the webbing is just the webbing itself, as the female velcro is not sewn on the other side of the webbing like it is with my other cam straps. I took off the sliding pads (don't need the extra bulk anyway) and plan to secure the extra webbing like you do. I might even trim the webbing down a little and use the cams for only my smaller tanks (steel 19s and 45s). At the $14.95 price, I can buy 4 more if I use larger on-board tanks.

Holding my S-Pro, DiveRite, and these new bands in my hands, the new ones do seem to have webbing that is not quite a thick as the webbing of the other bands, and with a little bit finer weave. Same width, however. Nice size "D" ring on the cam and the synthetic cam looks like it will take a lot of pressure when you push against it to lock down the tanks. It looks just like other synthetic cams I've used in past years with good success.

I'll let you know how they work out. It's a little chilly in my part of the world right now. Dive boats aren't running and the lakes are getting icy, so unless I go south to dive it might be a month or so before I get them wet and get back.

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Re: From Shadow mounts to Metalsub

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Outlaw:

Here is the link:

Soft Tank Band & Cam Buckle Assemble from LeisurePro.com

I had priced the other models (DiveRite, S-Pro, etc.) and, like you, was impressed by how much they cost. I wasn't aware you could buy anything for $14.95 US for diving, but I've ordered from the company before and know first hand that they have a good return policy. So I figured I would order them and if they didn't look good return them. No foul no harm.

Now that I have them in my hands, I like them and will keep them.

They come with the male velcro sewn on the tip of the belt and the female velcro on a "sliding" pad, so that you can mate it up with the fixed male velcro regardless of the diameter of the tank you are using. That means the overall thickness of the webbing is just the webbing itself, as the female velcro is not sewn on the other side of the webbing like it is with my other cam straps. I took off the sliding pads (don't need the extra bulk anyway) and plan to secure the extra webbing like you do. I might even trim the webbing down a little and use the cams for only my smaller tanks (steel 19s and 45s). At the $14.95 price, I can buy 4 more if I use larger on-board tanks.

Holding my S-Pro, DiveRite, and these new bands in my hands, the new ones do seem to have webbing that is not quite a thick as the webbing of the other bands, and with a little bit finer weave. Same width, however. Nice size "D" ring on the cam and the synthetic cam looks like it will take a lot of pressure when you push against it to lock down the tanks. It looks just like other synthetic cams I've used in past years with good success.

I'll let you know how they work out. It's a little chilly in my part of the world right now. Dive boats aren't running and the lakes are getting icy, so unless I go south to dive it might be a month or so before I get them wet and get back.

Bill
hey Bill,

thanks for the link. i guess i'll bere here in a month or two...


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