Do I have to change?

Drmike · 26th November 2007, 09:00

Quote: (Originally Posted by andibk)

Drmike

Come on Mike I am not that fat.

andibk

and for anyone that is wondering. Bruce is the one on the right

(the one on the left was his date)

Ben Field · 26th November 2007, 10:50

Quote: (Originally Posted by Silentghost)

Hello Megalodon divers

I am a Inspiration Classic diver with HS Explorer + 4th cell. If I want to change to Megalodon, what will I get more in comparision with the Inspiration Vision? What is better in Megalodon? How about the service? Only possible in the US?

Anssi Villa

Hi Anssi,

I think some of the replys have missed your point- "what will I get more in comparision with the Inspiration Vision?" To which the answer has to be- You get less!

Modularity and assumed robustness to one side- the Vision has full singing and dancing deco, the Meg does not, The Vision has a Temp stick, the Meg has an optional radial (long duration?) scrubber, The Meg is built in the US, the Inspiration in UK, the Vision is (soon anyway) available with a BOV, the Meg isn't BUT both can be fitted with a 3rd party one anyway.

Other than the previously discussed manufacturing and design differences the functionality and performance of your Inspiration and the Meg are not dissimilar (out of the box)

As an unbaised observer who has seen both Inspirations Classic, Vision and Megs in action that the Meg is "just" a toughened, American Classic Inspiration. The Vision is a step up from both.

You would be better off comparing the Vision to a CCRB Sentinal or Hammerhead CCR, (even a rEvo with a Shearwater or KISS with a VR3 URM at a stretch!)

IMO the Vision is underated and the Meg overated (I do not know why this is) both are capable and draw plenty of sales.

If/when the Meg much awaited 3rd generation software package arrives the balance may once again be readdressed, until then you are not comparing apples with apples.

decoweenie · 26th November 2007, 11:43

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field)

IMO the Vision is underated and the Meg overated...

Too busy packing to write a long post, but the above comment summarizes perfectly for me too (i.e. someone who dived Vision for a few years, went to the Meg, then went back).

jhaaja · 26th November 2007, 11:52

I had the same news on post #3

Drmike · 26th November 2007, 12:00

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field)

Hi Anssi,

I think some of the replys have missed your point- "what will I get more in comparision with the Inspiration Vision?" To which the answer has to be- You get less!

Modularity and assumed robustness to one side- the Vision has full singing and dancing deco, the Meg does not, The Vision has a Temp stick, the Meg has an optional radial (long duration?) scrubber, The Meg is built in the US, the Inspiration in UK, the Vision is (soon anyway) available with a BOV, the Meg isn't BUT both can be fitted with a 3rd party one anyway.

Other than the previously discussed manufacturing and design differences the functionality and performance of your Inspiration and the Meg are not dissimilar (out of the box)

As an unbaised observer who has seen both Inspirations Classic, Vision and Megs in action that the Meg is "just" a toughened, American Classic Inspiration. The Vision is a step up from both.

You would be better off comparing the Vision to a CCRB Sentinal or Hammerhead CCR, (even a rEvo with a Shearwater or KISS with a VR3 URM at a stretch!)

IMO the Vision is underated and the Meg overated (I do not know why this is) both are capable and draw plenty of sales.

If/when the Meg much awaited 3rd generation software package arrives the balance may once again be readdressed, until then you are not comparing apples with apples.

no he didnt really say that did he?

Run away! Run away! [ said in Graham Chapman esq voice]

Ben Field · 26th November 2007, 12:08

Quote: (Originally Posted by jhaaja)

I had the same news on post #3

Erm... Yes, now I reread it I see you had a similar point, you where just abit more brief about it

I had focussed on your HUD comment, which was a well made point, it is pretty much the only difference

(IMVHO)

As an aside- what do your buddies dive?

In our club we have a couple of KISS's and a couple of Visions, on any one trip there is normally someone to share tanks and spares with and both units have very similar deco (KISS's have Shearwaters so GF all round).

These two much overlooked factors make diving as a group an easier and more pleasurable experience IMO.

Maybe thats no deal breaker but I think it should be a consideration... if you dive with Rebreather buddies.

Ben Field · 26th November 2007, 12:14

Quote: (Originally Posted by Drmike)

no he didnt really say that did he?

Run away! Run away! [ said in Graham Chapman esq voice]

He's just pining for the fjords...

Sorry, what was your point? (Not meaning to be the Spanish Inquistion or anything...)

Drmike · 26th November 2007, 15:59

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field)

Not meaning to be the Spanish Inquistion or anything...)

NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!

[I didnt have a point - just another G&T]

Mixaddict · 26th November 2007, 17:09

Quote: (Originally Posted by Drmike)

If Im ever hit in the back by a 5000kg whale whilst wearing a Meg It will be gratifying that the scrubber will likely survive the impact that severed my spine and shattered my rib cage

Having been hit this past March by a 40 ton North Atlantic Humpback whale, I can assure you that your canister strength will be the least of your concerns!

jean-marc · 26th November 2007, 17:15

Well, I cannot speak for the Megalodon, but the Inspiration is not so weak and it is strong enough for most of the dives.

jean-marc

26th November 2007, 09:00	#11 (permalink)
Drmike Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Ouroboros Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,128	Re: Do I have to change? Quote: (Originally Posted by andibk) Drmike Come on Mike I am not that fat. andibk and for anyone that is wondering. Bruce is the one on the right (the one on the left was his date) __________________ Get a girlfriend you sad twat - a Rebreather is an unfaithful mistress - dont blind yourself to her faults just because she goes down on you
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26th November 2007, 10:50	#12 (permalink)
Ben Field CK+Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 1,469	Re: Do I have to change? Quote: (Originally Posted by Silentghost) Hello Megalodon divers I am a Inspiration Classic diver with HS Explorer + 4th cell. If I want to change to Megalodon, what will I get more in comparision with the Inspiration Vision? What is better in Megalodon? How about the service? Only possible in the US? Anssi Villa Hi Anssi, I think some of the replys have missed your point- "what will I get more in comparision with the Inspiration Vision?" To which the answer has to be- You get less! Modularity and assumed robustness to one side- the Vision has full singing and dancing deco, the Meg does not, The Vision has a Temp stick, the Meg has an optional radial (long duration?) scrubber, The Meg is built in the US, the Inspiration in UK, the Vision is (soon anyway) available with a BOV, the Meg isn't BUT both can be fitted with a 3rd party one anyway. Other than the previously discussed manufacturing and design differences the functionality and performance of your Inspiration and the Meg are not dissimilar (out of the box) As an unbaised observer who has seen both Inspirations Classic, Vision and Megs in action that the Meg is "just" a toughened, American Classic Inspiration. The Vision is a step up from both. You would be better off comparing the Vision to a CCRB Sentinal or Hammerhead CCR, (even a rEvo with a Shearwater or KISS with a VR3 URM at a stretch!) IMO the Vision is underated and the Meg overated (I do not know why this is) both are capable and draw plenty of sales. If/when the Meg much awaited 3rd generation software package arrives the balance may once again be readdressed, until then you are not comparing apples with apples. __________________ www.hugsac.org.uk Beware Fridge Suck
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26th November 2007, 11:43	#13 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Re: Do I have to change? Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field) IMO the Vision is underated and the Meg overated... Too busy packing to write a long post, but the above comment summarizes perfectly for me too (i.e. someone who dived Vision for a few years, went to the Meg, then went back).
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26th November 2007, 11:52	#14 (permalink)
jhaaja Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 867	Re: Do I have to change? I had the same news on post #3
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26th November 2007, 12:00	#15 (permalink)
Drmike Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Ouroboros Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,128	Re: Do I have to change? Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field) Hi Anssi, I think some of the replys have missed your point- "what will I get more in comparision with the Inspiration Vision?" To which the answer has to be- You get less! Modularity and assumed robustness to one side- the Vision has full singing and dancing deco, the Meg does not, The Vision has a Temp stick, the Meg has an optional radial (long duration?) scrubber, The Meg is built in the US, the Inspiration in UK, the Vision is (soon anyway) available with a BOV, the Meg isn't BUT both can be fitted with a 3rd party one anyway. Other than the previously discussed manufacturing and design differences the functionality and performance of your Inspiration and the Meg are not dissimilar (out of the box) As an unbaised observer who has seen both Inspirations Classic, Vision and Megs in action that the Meg is "just" a toughened, American Classic Inspiration. The Vision is a step up from both. You would be better off comparing the Vision to a CCRB Sentinal or Hammerhead CCR, (even a rEvo with a Shearwater or KISS with a VR3 URM at a stretch!) IMO the Vision is underated and the Meg overated (I do not know why this is) both are capable and draw plenty of sales. If/when the Meg much awaited 3rd generation software package arrives the balance may once again be readdressed, until then you are not comparing apples with apples. no he didnt really say that did he? Run away! Run away! [ said in Graham Chapman esq voice] __________________ Get a girlfriend you sad twat - a Rebreather is an unfaithful mistress - dont blind yourself to her faults just because she goes down on you
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26th November 2007, 12:08	#16 (permalink)
Ben Field CK+Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 1,469	Re: Do I have to change? Quote: (Originally Posted by jhaaja) I had the same news on post #3 Erm... Yes, now I reread it I see you had a similar point, you where just abit more brief about it I had focussed on your HUD comment, which was a well made point, it is pretty much the only difference (IMVHO) As an aside- what do your buddies dive? In our club we have a couple of KISS's and a couple of Visions, on any one trip there is normally someone to share tanks and spares with and both units have very similar deco (KISS's have Shearwaters so GF all round). These two much overlooked factors make diving as a group an easier and more pleasurable experience IMO. Maybe thats no deal breaker but I think it should be a consideration... if you dive with Rebreather buddies. __________________ www.hugsac.org.uk Beware Fridge Suck
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26th November 2007, 12:14	#17 (permalink)
Ben Field CK+Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 1,469	Re: Do I have to change? Quote: (Originally Posted by Drmike) no he didnt really say that did he? Run away! Run away! [ said in Graham Chapman esq voice] He's just pining for the fjords... Sorry, what was your point? (Not meaning to be the Spanish Inquistion or anything...) __________________ www.hugsac.org.uk Beware Fridge Suck
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26th November 2007, 15:59	#18 (permalink)
Drmike Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Ouroboros Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,128	Re: Do I have to change? Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field) Not meaning to be the Spanish Inquistion or anything...) NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! [I didnt have a point - just another G&T] __________________ Get a girlfriend you sad twat - a Rebreather is an unfaithful mistress - dont blind yourself to her faults just because she goes down on you
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26th November 2007, 17:09	#19 (permalink)
Mixaddict Always Learning! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Other CCR Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Dolphin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Draper, Utah USA Posts: 423	Re: Do I have to change? Quote: (Originally Posted by Drmike) If Im ever hit in the back by a 5000kg whale whilst wearing a Meg It will be gratifying that the scrubber will likely survive the impact that severed my spine and shattered my rib cage Having been hit this past March by a 40 ton North Atlantic Humpback whale, I can assure you that your canister strength will be the least of your concerns! __________________ Randy Thornton (MixAddict) Inspiration, Evolution,Hammerhead & Sentinel CCR Instructor
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