BMCL for a Meg

dave t · 19th October 2007, 09:12

I just use a "dog bone" backplate, that way it give plenty of room for the lungs to expand even if there is gas in the wing. and you are dead right Mike placing the tee's is crucial to good operation.

Dave

Drmike · 19th October 2007, 09:15

Quote: (Originally Posted by jknox)

Thanks Louis, this is exactly the setup I saw on DrMikes BOB and would love to get a set, but it was my understanding that DaveT no longer makes those...but definately I will contact him to verify. Had a KISS diver on the trip last weekend, and agree on the nice clean front!

You can just pop down to one of the canvas shops in little india (you know the street

the street where you can literally buy everything) they can make up any nylon cloth CL cover you want to your design. Just sketch out what you want and they can make it in 24hrs. Reuse your CL linners.

Drmike · 19th October 2007, 09:18

Quote: (Originally Posted by dave t)

I just use a "dog bone" backplate, that way it give plenty of room for the lungs to expand even if there is gas in the wing. and you are dead right Mike placing the tee's is crucial to good operation.

Dave

me too - but still find (with the wing i use) that theres not as much room there as Id like

dave t · 19th October 2007, 09:35

the distance between the two lungs is also important some of the er "modifications" that were made to my original design moved the lungs a little closer together, this of course depends on your size but if the distance is to narrow the lungs will be more restricted. and it also depends on how much gas you actually have in the wing and what type of wing it is. With my personal set of BMCL's I can fully inflate my wing (its a diverite recwing) on the surface and still breathe almost without feeling any resistance.The design of the wing means I can config it to push most of the volume to the lower half of the wing giving me more lift at the surface and less restriction on the lungs due to the fact that the lungs are effectively above the baulk of the wing expansion

colinicky · 19th October 2007, 11:13

Would agree with Dave on the positioning of the "T"s .I have a set of bmcl that is a copy of Dave's & an inch out & it makes a difference .
I use a CD TDB wing with the top of the wing cabletied through the grommets to stop it pushing on the top part of the cl's . I can get a full breath on the surface with wing & dry suit fully inflated .
I decided I hated ots after 2 dives & set about changing & now I would not go back .
With regard to dil & O2 manual add I use the kit that John ( narked@90) made for me

HTH

***diverklondike*** · 19th October 2007, 11:23

Have been diving my BMCLs for about a year now on my YBOD.

I use a converted Power Inflator for manual 02 add. I have it piped into my tee-piece via a 90 degree swagelock fitting and am very happy with it.

John makes a great piece of kit with his adaptor but I prefer the lower profile of my setup

Dive safe...

Mark

henckell · 19th October 2007, 13:59

Quote: (Originally Posted by dave t)

Well, its not that I dont want to make the lungs, its just been very difficult to get someone to make them for me for lots of reasons. However I think I may have found someone, will know in a few days

Dave

Hi Dave,

I'm interested in a pair of your BMCL if you can arrange production!

Regards,
Henrik

DarthVern · 19th October 2007, 15:49

Hey Dave

I would be interested in a BMCL set-up for my Meg as well.

-Vern

**RichClark** · 19th October 2007, 16:06

Quote: (Originally Posted by louisrankin)

I spoke to DaveT at the dive show about putting back mouted lungs on my Meg. He has designed some lungs that look like they are in a small wing, he then suggested using a YBOD ADV and have two manual add made for the Dil and 02. It may be worth contacting him I would be very interested in doing the same as imho this is the worst part of the Meg. I dived a Kiss for 4 years and then bought a Meg and I find the lungs a real pain in the arse.

Louis

Hello Mate,

I'm curious... you bought a COPIS didn't you? What do you think you've gained (especially as you're now looking at BMCL) over and above your KISS?

Cheers

Rich

Drmike · 19th October 2007, 18:13

Quote: (Originally Posted by RichClark)

Hello Mate,

I'm curious... you bought a COPIS didn't you? What do you think you've gained (especially as you're now looking at BMCL) over and above your KISS?

Cheers

Rich

higher wob shorter scrubber life and dangerous sensor location [running away to hide

]

19th October 2007, 09:12	#11 (permalink)
dave t Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Dolphin Ray Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Ray Azimuth Home Build Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts: 610	Re: BMCL for a Meg I just use a "dog bone" backplate, that way it give plenty of room for the lungs to expand even if there is gas in the wing. and you are dead right Mike placing the tee's is crucial to good operation. Dave
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19th October 2007, 09:15	#12 (permalink)
Drmike Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Ouroboros Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,066	Re: BMCL for a Meg Quote: (Originally Posted by jknox) Thanks Louis, this is exactly the setup I saw on DrMikes BOB and would love to get a set, but it was my understanding that DaveT no longer makes those...but definately I will contact him to verify. Had a KISS diver on the trip last weekend, and agree on the nice clean front! You can just pop down to one of the canvas shops in little india (you know the street the street where you can literally buy everything) they can make up any nylon cloth CL cover you want to your design. Just sketch out what you want and they can make it in 24hrs. Reuse your CL linners. __________________ Get a girlfriend you sad twat - a Rebreather is an unfaithful mistress - dont blind yourself to her faults just because she goes down on you
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19th October 2007, 09:18	#13 (permalink)
Drmike Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Ouroboros Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,066	Re: BMCL for a Meg Quote: (Originally Posted by dave t) I just use a "dog bone" backplate, that way it give plenty of room for the lungs to expand even if there is gas in the wing. and you are dead right Mike placing the tee's is crucial to good operation. Dave me too - but still find (with the wing i use) that theres not as much room there as Id like __________________ Get a girlfriend you sad twat - a Rebreather is an unfaithful mistress - dont blind yourself to her faults just because she goes down on you
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19th October 2007, 09:35	#14 (permalink)
dave t Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Dolphin Ray Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Ray Azimuth Home Build Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts: 610	Re: BMCL for a Meg the distance between the two lungs is also important some of the er "modifications" that were made to my original design moved the lungs a little closer together, this of course depends on your size but if the distance is to narrow the lungs will be more restricted. and it also depends on how much gas you actually have in the wing and what type of wing it is. With my personal set of BMCL's I can fully inflate my wing (its a diverite recwing) on the surface and still breathe almost without feeling any resistance.The design of the wing means I can config it to push most of the volume to the lower half of the wing giving me more lift at the surface and less restriction on the lungs due to the fact that the lungs are effectively above the baulk of the wing expansion
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19th October 2007, 11:13	#15 (permalink)
colinicky Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: uk Posts: 650	Re: BMCL for a Meg Would agree with Dave on the positioning of the "T"s .I have a set of bmcl that is a copy of Dave's & an inch out & it makes a difference . I use a CD TDB wing with the top of the wing cabletied through the grommets to stop it pushing on the top part of the cl's . I can get a full breath on the surface with wing & dry suit fully inflated . I decided I hated ots after 2 dives & set about changing & now I would not go back . With regard to dil & O2 manual add I use the kit that John ( narked@90) made for me HTH __________________ Colin I trust my rebreather completely , I just don't trust the user onwards & downwards
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19th October 2007, 11:23	#16 (permalink)
*diverklondike* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,436	Re: BMCL for a Meg Have been diving my BMCLs for about a year now on my YBOD. I use a converted Power Inflator for manual 02 add. I have it piped into my tee-piece via a 90 degree swagelock fitting and am very happy with it. John makes a great piece of kit with his adaptor but I prefer the lower profile of my setup Dive safe... Mark
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19th October 2007, 13:59	#17 (permalink)
henckell New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 88	Re: BMCL for a Meg Quote: (Originally Posted by dave t) Well, its not that I dont want to make the lungs, its just been very difficult to get someone to make them for me for lots of reasons. However I think I may have found someone, will know in a few days Dave Hi Dave, I'm interested in a pair of your BMCL if you can arrange production! Regards, Henrik __________________ http://www.rekodeko.se
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19th October 2007, 15:49	#18 (permalink)
DarthVern New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: In a Quarry in PA Posts: 55	Re: BMCL for a Meg Hey Dave I would be interested in a BMCL set-up for my Meg as well. -Vern __________________ Vern http://www.quarryshark.com "You have only begun to discover your power. Join me, and I will complete your training. With our combined strength, we can end this destructive conflict and bring order to the galaxy." Darth Vader
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19th October 2007, 16:06	#19 (permalink)
RichClark Classic KISS No. 226 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hove, UK Posts: 757	Re: BMCL for a Meg Quote: (Originally Posted by louisrankin) I spoke to DaveT at the dive show about putting back mouted lungs on my Meg. He has designed some lungs that look like they are in a small wing, he then suggested using a YBOD ADV and have two manual add made for the Dil and 02. It may be worth contacting him I would be very interested in doing the same as imho this is the worst part of the Meg. I dived a Kiss for 4 years and then bought a Meg and I find the lungs a real pain in the arse. Louis Hello Mate, I'm curious... you bought a COPIS didn't you? What do you think you've gained (especially as you're now looking at BMCL) over and above your KISS? Cheers Rich __________________ The more I learn about women, the more I want to go diving... just don't tell my wife I said that To taste something a little different, try http://www.thechillikitchen.co.uk
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Drmike Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Ouroboros Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,066	Re: BMCL for a Meg Quote: (Originally Posted by RichClark) Hello Mate, I'm curious... you bought a COPIS didn't you? What do you think you've gained (especially as you're now looking at BMCL) over and above your KISS? Cheers Rich higher wob shorter scrubber life and dangerous sensor location [running away to hide ] __________________ Get a girlfriend you sad twat - a Rebreather is an unfaithful mistress - dont blind yourself to her faults just because she goes down on you
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