Does anyone do a Meg trimix manual?

nmanfield · 26th September 2007, 08:31

Re manuals, I don't uderstand why someone hasn't come up with a CD/DVD with little hi-res video clips showing 'best practice'. There is the argument that this might lead to 'self-teaching' but I don't necessarily support this (the sort of person that doesn't get training would most probably get around this anyway). Alternatively, given the hi-tech world we live in I'm sure it would be possible to post these clips on a web-site (ISC? - Rebreather World?) and only allow access to registered (i.e qualified) users.

kieranu · 26th September 2007, 08:37

Quote: (Originally Posted by nmanfield)

Re manuals, I don't uderstand why someone hasn't come up with a CD/DVD with little hi-res video clips showing 'best practice'. There is the argument that this might lead to 'self-teaching' but I don't necessarily support this (the sort of person that doesn't get training would most probably get around this anyway). Alternatively, given the hi-tech world we live in I'm sure it would be possible to post these clips on a web-site (ISC? - Rebreather World?) and only allow access to registered (i.e qualified) users.

I'd be all for this if the manufacturers can organize it. It takes the onus off the instructor having to keep track of all their charges and keep them in the loop.

MrClive · 26th September 2007, 10:00

hi all, very intresting points. i have e-mailed ANDI a good few times to get a manual for my meg, and not even a responce

does anyone know how to get hold of one? i know leon is putting together a great manual, but i for one would like to have access to as many pieces of info about my meg as possible. thanks in advance for your help

kieranu · 26th September 2007, 10:03

Quote: (Originally Posted by MrClive)

hi all, very intresting points. i have e-mailed ANDI a good few times to get a manual for my meg, and not even a responce

does anyone know how to get hold of one? i know leon is putting together a great manual, but i for one would like to have access to as many pieces of info about my meg as possible. thanks in advance for your help

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Moray Brown · 26th September 2007, 11:58

Mate - Give Ian a call he'll sort you out

Ian Forster: Chairman and Commercial Director
Phone: (0044) 1733 351288

Quote: (Originally Posted by MrClive)

hi all, very intresting points. i have e-mailed ANDI a good few times to get a manual for my meg, and not even a responce

does anyone know how to get hold of one? i know leon is putting together a great manual, but i for one would like to have access to as many pieces of info about my meg as possible. thanks in advance for your help

***jradomski*** · 26th September 2007, 12:18

Quote: (Originally Posted by MrClive)

hi all, very intresting points. i have e-mailed ANDI a good few times to get a manual for my meg, and not even a responce

does anyone know how to get hold of one? i know leon is putting together a great manual, but i for one would like to have access to as many pieces of info about my meg as possible. thanks in advance for your help

Please let me know what email address you used. Linda ( at andi hq) is generally very good with answering emails although it make take a few days....

Your fastest way to get the manual would be through ANDI Europe or ANDI UK... Ian is a good contact for both...

***jradomski*** · 26th September 2007, 12:26

Quote: (Originally Posted by tecdivertraining)

Hi Nick

Here is a usfull PDF of the solinoid strip down..
http://www.rebreatherworld.com/attac...1&d=1190784857
You should also call ISC and get a copy of thier factory manual its way better than the ANDI one.

cheers

Its good news that ISC is finally releasing a factory manual... The ANDI manual had to be done from scratch.. Some of the breakdown and repair points were intentionally omitted or just summarized because I did not want to encroach on the ISC factory tech program plus that not the point of the ANDI manual its meant as a student training manual and a reference point for common questions, if ISC starts encouracnging divers to do the more complex repairs I would ammend the manual appropriately....

Abbo · 26th September 2007, 12:34

Out of interest, Joe, why did you choose to leave out descriptions of how to calibrate and do positive and negative tests?

**wedivebc** · 26th September 2007, 12:42

Quote: (Originally Posted by jradomski)

Its good news that ISC is finally releasing a factory manual... The ANDI manual had to be done from scratch.. Some of the breakdown and repair points were intentionally omitted or just summarized because I did not want to encroach on the ISC factory tech program plus that not the point of the ANDI manual its meant as a student training manual and a reference point for common questions, if ISC starts encouracnging divers to do the more complex repairs I would ammend the manual appropriately....

Solenoid teardown and DSV servicing is part of the end user curriculum.

Benthic · 26th September 2007, 14:09

Quote: (Originally Posted by Abbo)

<snip>
Obviously, this is a manual for air diluent and NDLs. Is there a Meg manual for trimix and beyond? Shouldn't there be? Does anyone have any plans for one? It would be nice if there were a manual that clearly explained how to take the solenoid apart, how to make batteries, how to rewire the battery compartment to allow off-the-shelf batteries, how to do field repairs of common problems...It would be nice if there were an owner's manual of the kind of things that you don't need to know till you need to know them in a hurry.

Didn't you learn some (most?) of this in your Meg class? When I was in class we were taught how to do all of these things except for rewiring the battery compartment.

Brian

26th September 2007, 08:31	#11 (permalink)
nmanfield Megalegalegalegadingdong! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Odessa, Ukraine Posts: 329	Re: Does anyone do a Meg trimix manual? Re manuals, I don't uderstand why someone hasn't come up with a CD/DVD with little hi-res video clips showing 'best practice'. There is the argument that this might lead to 'self-teaching' but I don't necessarily support this (the sort of person that doesn't get training would most probably get around this anyway). Alternatively, given the hi-tech world we live in I'm sure it would be possible to post these clips on a web-site (ISC? - Rebreather World?) and only allow access to registered (i.e qualified) users. __________________ Tub 'O Lard
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26th September 2007, 08:37	#12 (permalink)
kieranu Apprentice Meg Pilot Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: WA, Australia Posts: 229	Re: Does anyone do a Meg trimix manual? Quote: (Originally Posted by nmanfield) Re manuals, I don't uderstand why someone hasn't come up with a CD/DVD with little hi-res video clips showing 'best practice'. There is the argument that this might lead to 'self-teaching' but I don't necessarily support this (the sort of person that doesn't get training would most probably get around this anyway). Alternatively, given the hi-tech world we live in I'm sure it would be possible to post these clips on a web-site (ISC? - Rebreather World?) and only allow access to registered (i.e qualified) users. I'd be all for this if the manufacturers can organize it. It takes the onus off the instructor having to keep track of all their charges and keep them in the loop.
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26th September 2007, 10:00	#13 (permalink)
MrClive Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: cork city ireland Posts: 165	Re: Does anyone do a Meg trimix manual? hi all, very intresting points. i have e-mailed ANDI a good few times to get a manual for my meg, and not even a responce does anyone know how to get hold of one? i know leon is putting together a great manual, but i for one would like to have access to as many pieces of info about my meg as possible. thanks in advance for your help __________________ clive
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26th September 2007, 10:03	#14 (permalink)
kieranu Apprentice Meg Pilot Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: WA, Australia Posts: 229	Re: Does anyone do a Meg trimix manual? Quote: (Originally Posted by MrClive) hi all, very intresting points. i have e-mailed ANDI a good few times to get a manual for my meg, and not even a responce does anyone know how to get hold of one? i know leon is putting together a great manual, but i for one would like to have access to as many pieces of info about my meg as possible. thanks in advance for your help ANDI International: Recreational Diving with Closed Circuit Rebreathers - Megalodon CCR Text
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26th September 2007, 11:58	#15 (permalink)
Moray Brown Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: WMUK Posts: 225	Re: Does anyone do a Meg trimix manual? Mate - Give Ian a call he'll sort you out Ian Forster: Chairman and Commercial Director Phone: (0044) 1733 351288 Quote: (Originally Posted by MrClive) hi all, very intresting points. i have e-mailed ANDI a good few times to get a manual for my meg, and not even a responce does anyone know how to get hold of one? i know leon is putting together a great manual, but i for one would like to have access to as many pieces of info about my meg as possible. thanks in advance for your help
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26th September 2007, 12:18	#16 (permalink)
*jradomski* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "Da" Bronx Posts: 2,795	Re: Does anyone do a Meg trimix manual? Quote: (Originally Posted by MrClive) hi all, very intresting points. i have e-mailed ANDI a good few times to get a manual for my meg, and not even a responce does anyone know how to get hold of one? i know leon is putting together a great manual, but i for one would like to have access to as many pieces of info about my meg as possible. thanks in advance for your help Please let me know what email address you used. Linda ( at andi hq) is generally very good with answering emails although it make take a few days.... Your fastest way to get the manual would be through ANDI Europe or ANDI UK... Ian is a good contact for both... __________________ Joe Radomski CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer ANDI Instructor Trainer Director #10 All posts are personal opinions and DO NOT reflect any affiliated agency unless specifically stated.
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26th September 2007, 12:26	#17 (permalink)
*jradomski* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "Da" Bronx Posts: 2,795	Re: Does anyone do a Meg trimix manual? Quote: (Originally Posted by tecdivertraining) Hi Nick Here is a usfull PDF of the solinoid strip down.. http://www.rebreatherworld.com/attac...1&d=1190784857 You should also call ISC and get a copy of thier factory manual its way better than the ANDI one. cheers Its good news that ISC is finally releasing a factory manual... The ANDI manual had to be done from scratch.. Some of the breakdown and repair points were intentionally omitted or just summarized because I did not want to encroach on the ISC factory tech program plus that not the point of the ANDI manual its meant as a student training manual and a reference point for common questions, if ISC starts encouracnging divers to do the more complex repairs I would ammend the manual appropriately.... __________________ Joe Radomski CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer ANDI Instructor Trainer Director #10 All posts are personal opinions and DO NOT reflect any affiliated agency unless specifically stated.
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26th September 2007, 12:34	#18 (permalink)
Abbo Going down on Meg Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tokyo Posts: 372	Re: Does anyone do a Meg trimix manual? Out of interest, Joe, why did you choose to leave out descriptions of how to calibrate and do positive and negative tests?
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26th September 2007, 12:42	#19 (permalink)
wedivebc FIGJAM Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Vancouver Island BC Canada Posts: 1,336	Re: Does anyone do a Meg trimix manual? Quote: (Originally Posted by jradomski) Its good news that ISC is finally releasing a factory manual... The ANDI manual had to be done from scratch.. Some of the breakdown and repair points were intentionally omitted or just summarized because I did not want to encroach on the ISC factory tech program plus that not the point of the ANDI manual its meant as a student training manual and a reference point for common questions, if ISC starts encouracnging divers to do the more complex repairs I would ammend the manual appropriately.... Solenoid teardown and DSV servicing is part of the end user curriculum. __________________ Cheers, Dave.... Man is the only animal burdened with the knowledge he will eventually die
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26th September 2007, 14:09	#20 (permalink)
Benthic MEGalomaniac Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pensacola, FL USA Posts: 218	Re: Does anyone do a Meg trimix manual? Quote: (Originally Posted by Abbo) <snip> Obviously, this is a manual for air diluent and NDLs. Is there a Meg manual for trimix and beyond? Shouldn't there be? Does anyone have any plans for one? It would be nice if there were a manual that clearly explained how to take the solenoid apart, how to make batteries, how to rewire the battery compartment to allow off-the-shelf batteries, how to do field repairs of common problems...It would be nice if there were an owner's manual of the kind of things that you don't need to know till you need to know them in a hurry. Didn't you learn some (most?) of this in your Meg class? When I was in class we were taught how to do all of these things except for rewiring the battery compartment. Brian __________________ Well lit rooms will not repel determined beer ninjas.
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