Stainless Steel Meg Handle

**Monkey** · 25th September 2007, 15:32

Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie)

1 + .5 + .5 = 2

You could make the shims out of lead

sorry for the piss poor math.. lead seemed so OC....

and Tungsten has a nice feel to it..

I could do brass and polish them up

AD_ward9 · 25th September 2007, 15:39

Quote: (Originally Posted by Monkey)

I can increase the size of the handle by about 40% or I can go with a denser metal... like tungsten... witch will give you more mass.

Monkey

Have you seen the cost of tungsten? Even tungsten ceramics (Tungsten Carbide). Cheaper to put in gold.

Alex

***caveseeker7*** · 25th September 2007, 15:42

Quote: (Originally Posted by AD_ward9)

Have you seen the cost of tungsten? Even tungsten ceramics (Tungsten Carbide). Cheaper to put in gold.

Alex

Less expensive than using Helium3 for bouyancy.

**Monkey** · 25th September 2007, 18:02

Quote: (Originally Posted by AD_ward9)

Have you seen the cost of tungsten? Even tungsten ceramics (Tungsten Carbide). Cheaper to put in gold.

Alex

My machinist said it was not much more than my Stainless steel..

w ripley · 25th September 2007, 18:29

They certainly look great but why not machine it/them in lead?

I've seen such a beast on a meg and it would appear to offer several advantages. It could be smaller for the weight you want, or heavier for not too much sacrifice in size depending upon your weighting needs. I imagine cost for machining in lead vs. a harder material could be lower, as well. And, wasn't the original handle designed to help with canister impact, say when hitting a wreck or the ceiling of a cave. Lead would make an excellent impact material.

I would be interested in a set (or two) in lead.

**Monkey** · 25th September 2007, 18:59

Quote: (Originally Posted by w ripley)

They certainly look great but why not machine it/them in lead?

I've seen such a beast on a meg and it would appear to offer several advantages. It could be smaller for the weight you want, or heavier for not too much sacrifice in size depending upon your weighting needs. I imagine cost for machining in lead vs. a harder material could be lower, as well. And, wasn't the original handle designed to help with canister impact, say when hitting a wreck or the ceiling of a cave. Lead would make an excellent impact material.

I would be interested in a set (or two) in lead.

Lead would absolutly be cheaper.... and machine time would be cut in half... but not as cool looking..

I will be happy to have a set cut in lead... I am meeting with my machinist tomorow at 7 AM... I will bring the groups requests to him..

Monkey

AD_ward9 · 25th September 2007, 19:32

Quote: (Originally Posted by Monkey)

My machinist said it was not much more than my Stainless steel..

Take him up on it! Can I buy a few ton of them (the Tungsten ones)?

Unless of course, you are being charged a "special diver's rate" for your stainless...

Has he ever tried machining tungsten? It is jolly hard stuff. Forget welding it too.

Alex

**Monkey** · 25th September 2007, 19:38

Quote: (Originally Posted by AD_ward9)

Take him up on it! Can I buy 50lbs of them (the Tungsten ones)?

Unless of course, you are being charged a "special diver's rate" for your stainless...

Alex

I will know by tomorow...

cool_hardware52 · 25th September 2007, 21:07

Quote: (Originally Posted by w ripley)

They certainly look great but why not machine it/them in lead?

I've seen such a beast on a meg and it would appear to offer several advantages. It could be smaller for the weight you want, or heavier for not too much sacrifice in size depending upon your weighting needs. I imagine cost for machining in lead vs. a harder material could be lower, as well. And, wasn't the original handle designed to help with canister impact, say when hitting a wreck or the ceiling of a cave. Lead would make an excellent impact material.

I would be interested in a set (or two) in lead.

Lead is not a lot of fun to machine. Hard to hold on to, enviro problems etc.

It is OTOH quite nice for casting.

Tobin

joe d · 26th September 2007, 02:24

Quote: (Originally Posted by Gilles)

Please work out how much

Quote: (Originally Posted by Monkey)

Ok..here is an update on the project

a handle and 2 shims comes in at 2 pounds.

Monkey

Wow, who said the dollar isn't worth that much anymore???
Even at todays exchange rate that's only $4.03

SymbolBritish PoundExchange
RateU.S. DollarBidAskGBPUSD=X2Sep 252.01694.03382.01692.0169

25th September 2007, 15:32	#11 (permalink)
Monkey Supporting Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lauderdale By The Sea Florida Posts: 343	Re: Stainless Steel Meg Handle Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie) 1 + .5 + .5 = 2 You could make the shims out of lead sorry for the piss poor math.. lead seemed so OC.... and Tungsten has a nice feel to it.. I could do brass and polish them up
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25th September 2007, 15:39	#12 (permalink)
AD_ward9 So much more to learn Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,607	Re: Stainless Steel Meg Handle Quote: (Originally Posted by Monkey) I can increase the size of the handle by about 40% or I can go with a denser metal... like tungsten... witch will give you more mass. Monkey Have you seen the cost of tungsten? Even tungsten ceramics (Tungsten Carbide). Cheaper to put in gold. Alex
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25th September 2007, 15:42	#13 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,325	Re: Stainless Steel Meg Handle Quote: (Originally Posted by AD_ward9) Have you seen the cost of tungsten? Even tungsten ceramics (Tungsten Carbide). Cheaper to put in gold. Alex Less expensive than using Helium3 for bouyancy. __________________ Cheers Stefan "It is still a good day if you are on the green side of the grass! Su amigo Roberto!" Sponsor Lou in Race For Life!
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25th September 2007, 18:02	#14 (permalink)
Monkey Supporting Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lauderdale By The Sea Florida Posts: 343	Re: Stainless Steel Meg Handle Quote: (Originally Posted by AD_ward9) Have you seen the cost of tungsten? Even tungsten ceramics (Tungsten Carbide). Cheaper to put in gold. Alex My machinist said it was not much more than my Stainless steel..
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25th September 2007, 18:29	#15 (permalink)
w ripley Sorta New Member Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Norfolk VA USA Posts: 127	Re: Stainless Steel Meg Handle They certainly look great but why not machine it/them in lead? I've seen such a beast on a meg and it would appear to offer several advantages. It could be smaller for the weight you want, or heavier for not too much sacrifice in size depending upon your weighting needs. I imagine cost for machining in lead vs. a harder material could be lower, as well. And, wasn't the original handle designed to help with canister impact, say when hitting a wreck or the ceiling of a cave. Lead would make an excellent impact material. I would be interested in a set (or two) in lead.
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25th September 2007, 18:59	#16 (permalink)
Monkey Supporting Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lauderdale By The Sea Florida Posts: 343	Re: Stainless Steel Meg Handle Quote: (Originally Posted by w ripley) They certainly look great but why not machine it/them in lead? I've seen such a beast on a meg and it would appear to offer several advantages. It could be smaller for the weight you want, or heavier for not too much sacrifice in size depending upon your weighting needs. I imagine cost for machining in lead vs. a harder material could be lower, as well. And, wasn't the original handle designed to help with canister impact, say when hitting a wreck or the ceiling of a cave. Lead would make an excellent impact material. I would be interested in a set (or two) in lead. Lead would absolutly be cheaper.... and machine time would be cut in half... but not as cool looking.. I will be happy to have a set cut in lead... I am meeting with my machinist tomorow at 7 AM... I will bring the groups requests to him.. Monkey
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25th September 2007, 19:32	#17 (permalink)
AD_ward9 So much more to learn Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,607	Re: Stainless Steel Meg Handle Quote: (Originally Posted by Monkey) My machinist said it was not much more than my Stainless steel.. Take him up on it! Can I buy a few ton of them (the Tungsten ones)? Unless of course, you are being charged a "special diver's rate" for your stainless... Has he ever tried machining tungsten? It is jolly hard stuff. Forget welding it too. Alex Last edited by AD_ward9 : 25th September 2007 at 19:39. Reason: Upped the order
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25th September 2007, 19:38	#18 (permalink)
Monkey Supporting Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lauderdale By The Sea Florida Posts: 343	Re: Stainless Steel Meg Handle Quote: (Originally Posted by AD_ward9) Take him up on it! Can I buy 50lbs of them (the Tungsten ones)? Unless of course, you are being charged a "special diver's rate" for your stainless... Alex I will know by tomorow...
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25th September 2007, 21:07	#19 (permalink)
cool_hardware52 RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: SoCal USA Posts: 358	Re: Stainless Steel Meg Handle Quote: (Originally Posted by w ripley) They certainly look great but why not machine it/them in lead? I've seen such a beast on a meg and it would appear to offer several advantages. It could be smaller for the weight you want, or heavier for not too much sacrifice in size depending upon your weighting needs. I imagine cost for machining in lead vs. a harder material could be lower, as well. And, wasn't the original handle designed to help with canister impact, say when hitting a wreck or the ceiling of a cave. Lead would make an excellent impact material. I would be interested in a set (or two) in lead. Lead is not a lot of fun to machine. Hard to hold on to, enviro problems etc. It is OTOH quite nice for casting. Tobin __________________ www.deepseasupply.com
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26th September 2007, 02:24	#20 (permalink)
joe d New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: DFW Posts: 20	Re: Stainless Steel Meg Handle Quote: (Originally Posted by Gilles) Please work out how much Quote: (Originally Posted by Monkey) Ok..here is an update on the project a handle and 2 shims comes in at 2 pounds. Monkey Wow, who said the dollar isn't worth that much anymore??? Even at todays exchange rate that's only $4.03 SymbolBritish PoundExchange RateU.S. DollarBidAskGBPUSD=X2Sep 252.01694.03382.01692.0169
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