a 1000 bucks...

Mephisto26 · 10th June 2007, 23:35

Update:

I don't know if you guys remeber but some months back I had a battery pack from ISC where the plug was on the wrong way and therby switched polarities...but after the shortcut that melted in part my reed switch the unit was still working fine and I kept on using it...I posted a threat back then and got some very good tips from you guys I don't know how to link it but I'm sure you can find it if u search...

then about 6 weeks ago I had that solenoid stuck open scenario in a cave here in Mexico and also posted a threat about it and again got some good tipps from you guys that finally convinced me to send the head to service...

Well they found out that the problem that caused the solenoid stuck open scenario was from when the battery shortcutted...this in part melted the electronics and parts of the prim. battery box...

So obviously I explained them that this happened because one of THEIR battery packs had the plug on wrong and therby caused the shortcut in the first place...But since the Unit was still working fine back then I kept on diving it and when the batteries where finished I threw them away...so I have nothing to proof my story...so they gave me 50% discount on spare parts...

But I still pay about 1200$ with transportation...what a **** up...Man, why didn't I keep those batteries???

So lesson to learn, always check the polarity of your batteries EVEN when they come form ISC itself AND never through them away because maybe they created a problem which takes some time to manifest itself...and then you pay, like me...

As far as I can remember the Battery had NB as initials on them, so be especially carefull with them...

I'm pretty pissed about the whole story and still can't believe that ISC sends batteries with wrong polarity and then charges money for repairing what they broke...of course I wasn't innocent in the whole story neither...ignorance isn't a bliss always...

Now I just hope that my unit will arrive soon and won't brake ever again...and I will NEVER buy again a battery pack from ISC...

Cheers,
Patrick

teksimple · 11th June 2007, 06:54

Glad you are OK. Hopefully you were the only one who got such a battery. Perhaps every Meg owner should check just to make sure?

Stephane · 11th June 2007, 07:21

I'm pretty surpised that the electronics is not reversed polarity protected, a simple schottky diode doesn't cost that much.

RonMicjan · 14th June 2007, 00:34

The new ones are

edasque · 14th June 2007, 00:41

why don't you use the past thread as proof to ISC ?

wondersea · 14th June 2007, 05:49

Quote: (Originally Posted by RonMicjan)

The new ones are

Which APECS ?

henckell · 14th June 2007, 08:31

Quote: (Originally Posted by wondersea)

Which APECS ?

I don't think it is connected to any special APECS version.
Inside the battery box you can see a copper coil in the old version and a small PCB in the new (protected) one.

Regards,
Henrik

wondersea · 14th June 2007, 09:46

Well, I explain myself badly. I would say in which head, but like a head is in relation with an APECS version, it's why I ask which APECS,

Thank's

henckell · 14th June 2007, 13:32

The changed components are inside the batteryboxes and these boxes are used in both APECS and COPIS heads (only one battery box with no on/off switch in the COPIS).

decoweenie · 14th June 2007, 15:24

Quote: (Originally Posted by henckell)

COPIS heads (only one battery box with no on/off switch in the COPIS).

How do you turn the battery on/off with the COPIS head ?

I asked is because I didn't know that, and just bought 2 COPIS handset packages...

10th June 2007, 23:35	#1 (permalink)
Mephisto26 New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Classic Kiss Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Playa del Carmen Q.Roo Mexico Posts: 89	a 1000 bucks... Update: I don't know if you guys remeber but some months back I had a battery pack from ISC where the plug was on the wrong way and therby switched polarities...but after the shortcut that melted in part my reed switch the unit was still working fine and I kept on using it...I posted a threat back then and got some very good tips from you guys I don't know how to link it but I'm sure you can find it if u search... then about 6 weeks ago I had that solenoid stuck open scenario in a cave here in Mexico and also posted a threat about it and again got some good tipps from you guys that finally convinced me to send the head to service... Well they found out that the problem that caused the solenoid stuck open scenario was from when the battery shortcutted...this in part melted the electronics and parts of the prim. battery box... So obviously I explained them that this happened because one of THEIR battery packs had the plug on wrong and therby caused the shortcut in the first place...But since the Unit was still working fine back then I kept on diving it and when the batteries where finished I threw them away...so I have nothing to proof my story...so they gave me 50% discount on spare parts... But I still pay about 1200$ with transportation...what a **** up...Man, why didn't I keep those batteries??? So lesson to learn, always check the polarity of your batteries EVEN when they come form ISC itself AND never through them away because maybe they created a problem which takes some time to manifest itself...and then you pay, like me... As far as I can remember the Battery had NB as initials on them, so be especially carefull with them... I'm pretty pissed about the whole story and still can't believe that ISC sends batteries with wrong polarity and then charges money for repairing what they broke...of course I wasn't innocent in the whole story neither...ignorance isn't a bliss always... Now I just hope that my unit will arrive soon and won't brake ever again...and I will NEVER buy again a battery pack from ISC... Cheers, Patrick
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11th June 2007, 06:54	#2 (permalink)
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henckell New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 90	Re: a 1000 bucks... Quote: (Originally Posted by wondersea) Which APECS ? I don't think it is connected to any special APECS version. Inside the battery box you can see a copper coil in the old version and a small PCB in the new (protected) one. Regards, Henrik __________________ http://www.rekodeko.se
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wondersea New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: France - Gerzat (63) - Sanary (83) Posts: 78	Re: a 1000 bucks... Well, I explain myself badly. I would say in which head, but like a head is in relation with an APECS version, it's why I ask which APECS, Thank's __________________ Antoine Pannetier DirRebreather member www.DIRRebreather.com
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14th June 2007, 13:32	#9 (permalink)
henckell New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 90	Re: a 1000 bucks... The changed components are inside the batteryboxes and these boxes are used in both APECS and COPIS heads (only one battery box with no on/off switch in the COPIS). __________________ http://www.rekodeko.se
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decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Re: a 1000 bucks... Quote: (Originally Posted by henckell) COPIS heads (only one battery box with no on/off switch in the COPIS). How do you turn the battery on/off with the COPIS head ? I asked is because I didn't know that, and just bought 2 COPIS handset packages... __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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