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Old 29th July 2005, 20:31   #11 (permalink)
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Joe, thought about the UT-240, but they are so rare I didn't bother to include them.
I've seen Wayne's, and it looks like one hell of a good rig.
With an electronics update, anyway.
Definately needs an electronics update!!!
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Old 30th July 2005, 07:42   #12 (permalink)
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Hey I know what hydrophobic means, but why do you want a hydrophobic membrane in your cannister? What are the pros and cons?
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Old 30th July 2005, 08:16   #13 (permalink)
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Hey I know what hydrophobic means, but why do you want a hydrophobic membrane in your cannister? What are the pros and cons?
With the Hydrophobic and a CIS Lunar design you can change the cannister while underwater so you can stay longer and I think it is a good choice with LiHo.
But you increase the WOB, pay more, etc...

It is, like always, a kind of compromise between what do you plan to do and what you wish from the rig.

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Whole lotta emailin' with a view to some rebreathin'

Thanks everyone for your input and patience. Acknowledging that I know only very little....

I'm thinkin' in researching this that I'm all too aware of the investment, so I know that this can result in getting tripped up on details that might not matter so much. I'm really tempted by the meg, but the vision electronics are pretty nifty and the meg seems to lack leccies that match the quality of the rest of the unit at the moment.

If any meg divers feel particularly motivated, I would love to email/chat personally about the meg and what it is that possessed them to purchase that unit (I see in another thread that many have great things to say about build quality as the advantage and that some have ordered the unit very rapidly after discussions with Rebreather World members, but was that the clincher?) Do you feel limited by the electronics at all? Inspo/Vision users, do you feel that the unit is good but would be great with better manufacturing? How much does this all matter? And what of the prism... I see it's a wonderful machine, but the wait times for new units/repairs are notorious. Is this true? A friend of mine bought a Maserati. Wonderful, precision car, but it spends half the time unusable and he never seems to be able to enjoy it.... I fear the same in the prism.

Strangely, while immersed in Rebreather World's immense archives of experience, I find I am still seeking people's experience.

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If you want to chat PM me and I will give you my cell number, I dive a Meg.

I am very happy with the functionality of the shearwater electronics. they do not have the polish of the user interface of the vision electronics or a temp stick but in every other respect they are the same and in other respects better eg I can see actual cell milivolt output unlike vision users.

But I am also a fan of the Evolution - I really enjoyed my dive on it and am a fan of the temp stick as another tool.

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And what of the prism... I see it's a wonderful machine, but the wait times for new units/repairs are notorious. Is this true?
Jesse, in regards to delivery times you'll have to contact Steam Machines.
They fell behind when moving to TN, and are still catching up with backorders.
It's a bit less of an issue snce you're in the US and can get one of the rental rigs for at least part of the wait. Matt Addison bought a couple of them off Steam Machines and keeps them in Woodland Hills. He is also one of their instructors.

I don't know where you got that bit about repair times, that's one I haven't heard of yet. When they finally got the shop up in TN the first order was making supplies (like custom O-rings) and some spares to keep existing customers going.

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Again, where is that coming from? PM me if you don't want to name someone publicly, but I'm getting very curious. Maintainance on the PRISM is quite easy, and with reasonable care the unit will work very well and dependably. If you get the optional cowling the electronics and cannister are well protected. That leaves only the analog gauge to look out for. It doesn't take too kindly to strong shock/impact. But proper gauge handling is part of the training and becomes second nature.
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Hi Stefan!

Thanks for your input... it's just this kind of feedback that helps me with my resarch!

As I said, I lack knowledge and there's alot of misinformation around, so I'm doing my best to sort out fact from fiction. I fear my Maserati analogy may have come across differently from it's intention... I was only trying to make the point that even if it's a wonderful product, if it's also true that wait times for units and repairs are indeed long, I'd miss out on time to enjoy it. I guess the Mas' came to mind because cost is on my mind at the moment

No dis' on the priz' intended.

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As I said, I lack knowledge and there's alot of misinformation around, so I'm doing my best to sort out fact from fiction.
Thanks for trying to sort it out, some people don't even bother.

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I fear my Maserati analogy may have come across differently from it's intention...
Having had a Pininfarna Spider Volumex (that's a supercharged Fiat 124) with several failures, some of them very expensive and time consuming, I might have misread that.

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The APECS II Meg with HUD and ADV costs as much as the PRISM with cowling.
The YBOD Classic with ADV is around there, too. The cowling is currently the PRISM's only option, so that's as expensive as it gets. For Meg and YBOD you can upgrade electronics etc and add $2K or more to the tab.
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