Cooper Hoses... whose jealous?

DZLHED · 10th June 2007, 04:17

Quote: (Originally Posted by chunter)

Yeah, my cross-dressing days are behind me (at least for the rest of the week).

I broke them in this afternoon. They were a bit floaty, but I need to fine-tune the positioning etc. Any ideas for a decent weight system to pull them down a bit?

C

Sorry to hear that. About the cross-dressing...

They are floaty cause you had to go with that mondo inner diameter.

I think you can get lead weight in 1/4 in. dia. by however long bars at a good fishing supply store.

Take that and rap it around your fancy crush proof hoses why dont you.

It won't be pretty...but you aren't much to look at anyway.

teomannaskali · 11th June 2007, 09:06

Are these any good wiht OTS counterlung type designs?

Teoman

DZLHED · 11th June 2007, 18:37

I suppose they would be fine. You'll have to order the hoses to the exact length you need as they can not be cut to fit. The wait is about a year... or so I hear

Todd

chunter · 12th June 2007, 04:07

Quote: (Originally Posted by DZLHED)

I think you can get lead weight in 1/4 in. dia. by however long bars at a good fishing supply store.

I found some good stainless steel rings at West Marine. The 2" ID is nearly perfect. I held them in place on my dive today with a couple of big O-rings. I am Plastidiping them now to make them fit perfectly. West Marine also has other sizes that may work well for yours.

Aloha,
Charlie

Sulac · 12th June 2007, 19:31

have any tried to fit on a megalodon?

the measure for the meg hose are

from canister to counterlung:
27.31 Long
3.18 Inside diameter on both ends
Hosefrom counterlung to dive surface valve (mouthpiece)
45.09 Long
3.18 Inside diameter on counterlung end
4.46 Inside diameter on dsv end.

and GDS can sell me have

The inner Diameter is about 4 cm. 40 or 50 cm long

Have anyone a adapter or any ideas??

Claus

DonalWalsh · 14th June 2007, 17:18

I've seen a set of these with a great big hole in them on the Boris of a well known diver and skipper who sometimes frequents this forum. It could have been a duff batch I guess but has anybody else experienced that problem?

I guess the fact you can't compress them easily rules out pinching your hose in water if checking a DSV mushroom valve or indeed doing that reverse o2 flush thingy Ron showed me lately. The Meg hoses are pretty tough as they stand so I question whether these would really be an upgrade.

chunter · 15th June 2007, 02:53

Ohhh...you're just jealous!

I tend to listen to my mushroom valves more than I test them by squeezing the hoses. Actually, I think you are more likely to create a problem (especially with some DSVs) by putting excessive pressure on the mushroom valve. I have seen them push into the retaining frame and get stuck there when someone did a similar test (fortunately on dry land where it was more obvious what had happened).

I know guys who have Cooper hoses that are 10 years old and they are still solid. I like them because I think they are more solid for climbing around wrecks, but I could be wrong.

I would be interested in any stories of failures on them. Any idea how the hold was made in the Boris set?

Aloha,
Charlie

Quote: (Originally Posted by DonalWalsh)

I've seen a set of these with a great big hole in them on the Boris of a well known diver and skipper who sometimes frequents this forum. It could have been a duff batch I guess but has anybody else experienced that problem?

I guess the fact you can't compress them easily rules out pinching your hose in water if checking a DSV mushroom valve or indeed doing that reverse o2 flush thingy Ron showed me lately. The Meg hoses are pretty tough as they stand so I question whether these would really be an upgrade.

DonalWalsh · 15th June 2007, 13:21

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Quote: (Originally Posted by chunter)

Ohhh...you're just jealous!

Oh right..........that must be it

Quote:

I would be interested in any stories of failures on them. Any idea how the hold was made in the Boris set?

I can't remember if it was a wreck attack or not ...I'll try and find out....unless you're reading this J?

10th June 2007, 04:17	#11 (permalink)
DZLHED Swimmin' upstream Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Maui County, Hawaii Posts: 101	Re: Cooper Hoses... whose jealous? Quote: (Originally Posted by chunter) Yeah, my cross-dressing days are behind me (at least for the rest of the week). I broke them in this afternoon. They were a bit floaty, but I need to fine-tune the positioning etc. Any ideas for a decent weight system to pull them down a bit? C Sorry to hear that. About the cross-dressing... They are floaty cause you had to go with that mondo inner diameter. I think you can get lead weight in 1/4 in. dia. by however long bars at a good fishing supply store. Take that and rap it around your fancy crush proof hoses why dont you. It won't be pretty...but you aren't much to look at anyway. __________________ Aloha, Dieselhead To err is Human... to ccr, Divine. www.NorthShoreExplorers.com
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11th June 2007, 09:06	#12 (permalink)
teomannaskali Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Home Build Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Istanbul TR Posts: 350	Re: Cooper Hoses... whose jealous? Are these any good wiht OTS counterlung type designs? Teoman
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11th June 2007, 18:37	#13 (permalink)
DZLHED Swimmin' upstream Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Maui County, Hawaii Posts: 101	Re: Cooper Hoses... whose jealous? I suppose they would be fine. You'll have to order the hoses to the exact length you need as they can not be cut to fit. The wait is about a year... or so I hear Todd __________________ Aloha, Dieselhead To err is Human... to ccr, Divine. www.NorthShoreExplorers.com
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12th June 2007, 04:07	#14 (permalink)
chunter I like diving Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Classic Kiss Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Honolulu Posts: 471	Re: Cooper Hoses... whose jealous? Quote: (Originally Posted by DZLHED) I think you can get lead weight in 1/4 in. dia. by however long bars at a good fishing supply store. I found some good stainless steel rings at West Marine. The 2" ID is nearly perfect. I held them in place on my dive today with a couple of big O-rings. I am Plastidiping them now to make them fit perfectly. West Marine also has other sizes that may work well for yours. Aloha, Charlie __________________ "Foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." - Emerson "Hobgoblin is a cool word." - Charlie
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12th June 2007, 19:31	#15 (permalink)
Sulac New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 43	Re: Cooper Hoses... whose jealous? have any tried to fit on a megalodon? the measure for the meg hose are from canister to counterlung: 27.31 Long 3.18 Inside diameter on both ends Hosefrom counterlung to dive surface valve (mouthpiece) 45.09 Long 3.18 Inside diameter on counterlung end 4.46 Inside diameter on dsv end. and GDS can sell me have The inner Diameter is about 4 cm. 40 or 50 cm long Have anyone a adapter or any ideas?? Claus Last edited by Sulac : 12th June 2007 at 19:38.
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14th June 2007, 17:18	#16 (permalink)
DonalWalsh Third Class Snorkeller Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Moving to London in Sept.....which way to the South Coast?? Posts: 136	Re: Cooper Hoses... whose jealous? I've seen a set of these with a great big hole in them on the Boris of a well known diver and skipper who sometimes frequents this forum. It could have been a duff batch I guess but has anybody else experienced that problem? I guess the fact you can't compress them easily rules out pinching your hose in water if checking a DSV mushroom valve or indeed doing that reverse o2 flush thingy Ron showed me lately. The Meg hoses are pretty tough as they stand so I question whether these would really be an upgrade. __________________ "Anybody can be a bum. All you need is the right girl, the right bar, and the right friends. They will see you off. They will christen your dumpster for you. "- Bill Hicks
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15th June 2007, 02:53	#17 (permalink)
chunter I like diving Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Classic Kiss Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Honolulu Posts: 471	Re: Cooper Hoses... whose jealous? Ohhh...you're just jealous! I tend to listen to my mushroom valves more than I test them by squeezing the hoses. Actually, I think you are more likely to create a problem (especially with some DSVs) by putting excessive pressure on the mushroom valve. I have seen them push into the retaining frame and get stuck there when someone did a similar test (fortunately on dry land where it was more obvious what had happened). I know guys who have Cooper hoses that are 10 years old and they are still solid. I like them because I think they are more solid for climbing around wrecks, but I could be wrong. I would be interested in any stories of failures on them. Any idea how the hold was made in the Boris set? Aloha, Charlie Quote: (Originally Posted by DonalWalsh) I've seen a set of these with a great big hole in them on the Boris of a well known diver and skipper who sometimes frequents this forum. It could have been a duff batch I guess but has anybody else experienced that problem? I guess the fact you can't compress them easily rules out pinching your hose in water if checking a DSV mushroom valve or indeed doing that reverse o2 flush thingy Ron showed me lately. The Meg hoses are pretty tough as they stand so I question whether these would really be an upgrade. __________________ "Foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." - Emerson "Hobgoblin is a cool word." - Charlie
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15th June 2007, 13:21	#18 (permalink)
DonalWalsh Third Class Snorkeller Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Moving to London in Sept.....which way to the South Coast?? Posts: 136	Re: Cooper Hoses... whose jealous? [quote] Quote: (Originally Posted by chunter) Ohhh...you're just jealous! Oh right..........that must be it Quote: I would be interested in any stories of failures on them. Any idea how the hold was made in the Boris set? I can't remember if it was a wreck attack or not ...I'll try and find out....unless you're reading this J? __________________ "Anybody can be a bum. All you need is the right girl, the right bar, and the right friends. They will see you off. They will christen your dumpster for you. "- Bill Hicks
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