CK ali case weight?

Dave Crampton · 27th March 2007, 14:16

I searched the forum but couldn't find what I wanted so thought I'd post here.

Does anyone know what the Ali case which comes with the CK weighs? I'm thinking of moving it back to the SS case and ditching the difference in weight? I can take the KISS apart but wondered first if anyone knew off hand? I know Rich Clark had a few made up which were 7kg, but he stated the Ali case weighs about 5kg. Is this right? I can weight the SS Portland Eng case later.

I have a SS Portland Eng case for my CK. I bought the KISS with it configured with the SS case but found it very heavy in the water and out. I now know that perhaps it was my heavy weight belt and loose then tight then loose harness (in an attempt to get comfortable) which made the first dive uncomfortable.

Plus, I've dived only in fresh water. Should I add a couple more kg for sea water. I sed to dive the same weight and live with the extra by filling the wing when I dived twin 12s.

Cheers,

Dave C

onetime · 27th March 2007, 15:03

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Crampton)

I know Rich Clark had a few made up which were 7kg, but he stated the Ali case weighs about 5kg. Is this right? I can weight the SS Portland Eng case later.

I have to say this seems like a bit much. I'm just basing this off the feel of it when I had to constantly move it when I used a custom frame (seemed the old case was always in the spot I needed to put something else) but 11lbs seems too much. I would guess it's more like 7lbs (3kg). Maybe someone else has a better answer though.

aquaholic · 2nd April 2007, 16:41

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Crampton)

Plus, I've dived only in fresh water. Should I add a couple more kg for sea water. I sed to dive the same weight and live with the extra by filling the wing when I dived twin 12s.

Hi Dave,

I use the ali case with a sacrificial anode and first started out with the same weight as I carried for the twin 12's. I quickly found that I was wayyy too heavy. I then gradually reduced the weight I carried and until I have halved the weight on the CK and my DIL consumption as dropped dramatically as I don't need so much wing inflation gas now

I use the same weight in freshwater and the sea.

Have fun

Anke

**RichClark** · 2nd April 2007, 17:41

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Crampton)

I searched the forum but couldn't find what I wanted so thought I'd post here.

Does anyone know what the Ali case which comes with the CK weighs? I'm thinking of moving it back to the SS case and ditching the difference in weight? I can take the KISS apart but wondered first if anyone knew off hand? I know Rich Clark had a few made up which were 7kg, but he stated the Ali case weighs about 5kg. Is this right? I can weight the SS Portland Eng case later.

I have a SS Portland Eng case for my CK. I bought the KISS with it configured with the SS case but found it very heavy in the water and out. I now know that perhaps it was my heavy weight belt and loose then tight then loose harness (in an attempt to get comfortable) which made the first dive uncomfortable.

Plus, I've dived only in fresh water. Should I add a couple more kg for sea water. I sed to dive the same weight and live with the extra by filling the wing when I dived twin 12s.

Cheers,

Dave C

Hi Dave,

I don't remember saying that the ali case weighs 5kg... but I may have? The SS case and spine we made added around 6kg to the total rigged weight. I'll weight the ali case in a bit and let you know mate.

Cheers

Rich

PS - the SS case replaces the weight belt and distributes the weight over your back.

**RichClark** · 2nd April 2007, 18:35

Ok, just jumped on the bathroom scales with a and without the ali case (inc ali spine).

I learnt two things, 1) the case and spine weight 3kg, 2) i've eaten far too much and drank too much beer over the last few months

Cheers

Rich

Dave Crampton · 2nd April 2007, 21:36

Thanks Rich, Spot on - thanks.

I'll be down your way on Friday. I'm out on Seabreeze to dive the City of Brisbane I think.

I'm out on Scimitar then on Sunday doing the M2.

Dave C

Ben Field · 3rd April 2007, 15:12

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Crampton)

I'm out on Seabreeze to dive the City of Brisbane I think.

Hey Dave, I did CoB yesterday, it was dark- take a torch or three... and some croutons, was well soupy at deco depths

Dave Crampton · 3rd April 2007, 18:18

Thanks for the tip Ben, I'll take a spare then.

Rich my SS Portland case weights 7kg, with leg.

Dave C

Joe Botz · 17th September 2007, 03:20

any chance for less weight on my waist is a plus.

27th March 2007, 14:16	#1 (permalink)
Dave Crampton CK #051 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bury St Edmunds, UK Posts: 278	CK ali case weight? I searched the forum but couldn't find what I wanted so thought I'd post here. Does anyone know what the Ali case which comes with the CK weighs? I'm thinking of moving it back to the SS case and ditching the difference in weight? I can take the KISS apart but wondered first if anyone knew off hand? I know Rich Clark had a few made up which were 7kg, but he stated the Ali case weighs about 5kg. Is this right? I can weight the SS Portland Eng case later. I have a SS Portland Eng case for my CK. I bought the KISS with it configured with the SS case but found it very heavy in the water and out. I now know that perhaps it was my heavy weight belt and loose then tight then loose harness (in an attempt to get comfortable) which made the first dive uncomfortable. Plus, I've dived only in fresh water. Should I add a couple more kg for sea water. I sed to dive the same weight and live with the extra by filling the wing when I dived twin 12s. Cheers, Dave C
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27th March 2007, 15:03	#2 (permalink)
onetime Classic KISSer #138 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: US, NJ Posts: 673	Re: CK ali case weight? Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Crampton) I know Rich Clark had a few made up which were 7kg, but he stated the Ali case weighs about 5kg. Is this right? I can weight the SS Portland Eng case later. I have to say this seems like a bit much. I'm just basing this off the feel of it when I had to constantly move it when I used a custom frame (seemed the old case was always in the spot I needed to put something else) but 11lbs seems too much. I would guess it's more like 7lbs (3kg). Maybe someone else has a better answer though.
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2nd April 2007, 16:41	#3 (permalink)
aquaholic hohum Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 100	Re: CK ali case weight? Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Crampton) Plus, I've dived only in fresh water. Should I add a couple more kg for sea water. I sed to dive the same weight and live with the extra by filling the wing when I dived twin 12s. Hi Dave, I use the ali case with a sacrificial anode and first started out with the same weight as I carried for the twin 12's. I quickly found that I was wayyy too heavy. I then gradually reduced the weight I carried and until I have halved the weight on the CK and my DIL consumption as dropped dramatically as I don't need so much wing inflation gas now I use the same weight in freshwater and the sea. Have fun Anke __________________ Trying things different to the norm is the route to a new norm....
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2nd April 2007, 17:41	#4 (permalink)
RichClark Classic KISS No. 226 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hove, UK Posts: 778	Re: CK ali case weight? Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Crampton) I searched the forum but couldn't find what I wanted so thought I'd post here. Does anyone know what the Ali case which comes with the CK weighs? I'm thinking of moving it back to the SS case and ditching the difference in weight? I can take the KISS apart but wondered first if anyone knew off hand? I know Rich Clark had a few made up which were 7kg, but he stated the Ali case weighs about 5kg. Is this right? I can weight the SS Portland Eng case later. I have a SS Portland Eng case for my CK. I bought the KISS with it configured with the SS case but found it very heavy in the water and out. I now know that perhaps it was my heavy weight belt and loose then tight then loose harness (in an attempt to get comfortable) which made the first dive uncomfortable. Plus, I've dived only in fresh water. Should I add a couple more kg for sea water. I sed to dive the same weight and live with the extra by filling the wing when I dived twin 12s. Cheers, Dave C Hi Dave, I don't remember saying that the ali case weighs 5kg... but I may have? The SS case and spine we made added around 6kg to the total rigged weight. I'll weight the ali case in a bit and let you know mate. Cheers Rich PS - the SS case replaces the weight belt and distributes the weight over your back. __________________ The more I learn about women, the more I want to go diving... just don't tell my wife I said that To taste something a little different, try http://www.thechillikitchen.co.uk
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2nd April 2007, 18:35	#5 (permalink)
RichClark Classic KISS No. 226 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hove, UK Posts: 778	Re: CK ali case weight? Ok, just jumped on the bathroom scales with a and without the ali case (inc ali spine). I learnt two things, 1) the case and spine weight 3kg, 2) i've eaten far too much and drank too much beer over the last few months Cheers Rich __________________ The more I learn about women, the more I want to go diving... just don't tell my wife I said that To taste something a little different, try http://www.thechillikitchen.co.uk
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2nd April 2007, 21:36	#6 (permalink)
Dave Crampton CK #051 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bury St Edmunds, UK Posts: 278	Re: CK ali case weight? Thanks Rich, Spot on - thanks. I'll be down your way on Friday. I'm out on Seabreeze to dive the City of Brisbane I think. I'm out on Scimitar then on Sunday doing the M2. Dave C Last edited by Dave Crampton : 3rd April 2007 at 18:19.
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3rd April 2007, 15:12	#7 (permalink)
Ben Field CK+Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 1,621	Re: CK ali case weight? Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Crampton) I'm out on Seabreeze to dive the City of Brisbane I think. Hey Dave, I did CoB yesterday, it was dark- take a torch or three... and some croutons, was well soupy at deco depths __________________ Know your PPO2, Pre-breath, Use checklists, Validate cells at 6mtrs, Use pure O2 at or near surface, Use a BOV, Don't dive Solo, Change Slime and Cells as recommended by Manufacturer and RTFM! Beware Fridge Suck! www.hugsac.org.uk
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3rd April 2007, 18:18	#8 (permalink)
Dave Crampton CK #051 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bury St Edmunds, UK Posts: 278	Re: CK ali case weight? Thanks for the tip Ben, I'll take a spare then. Rich my SS Portland case weights 7kg, with leg. Dave C Last edited by Dave Crampton : 3rd April 2007 at 18:28.
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