Making the KISS recoverable

lizardland · 31st May 2005, 11:42

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ken)

* a nice brain relaxer between bouts of administrative paperwork

That's how it starts, next thing you know you'll be looking at lathes and have accounts with Swagelok and McMaster-Carr

buggeriamold · 31st May 2005, 13:10

Quote:

Only 15days until Classic #59 becomes mine... and I definitely don't intend f***ing with it

Well, not for a while anyway...

only 2 after mine! Is that the first of the o2 on the right classic's?

Mark

TechBlue · 31st May 2005, 13:11

I agree with Phi on this one, in the words of DT it is more of a perceived problem than a real problem. It would be great to have a way to clear the loop but I think for the additional failure point it would introduce for the chance you may flood your loop which is not easy to do it's not worth the trouble. When I first got my unit I put a lot of time into trying to come up with a satisfactory solution and couldn't find a way to do it safely. Youi also have to bear in mind that you would be reaching behind you to either press or pull a dump at the same time you are increasing loop pressure to vent I could see some bouyancy issues and some fairly serious task loading, all while the shit is hittng the fan.

If you do come up with a viable solution Ken I will be mightily impressed

so keep on working on that brain relaxer.
Cheers,
Chris

decoweenie · 31st May 2005, 13:57

Quote: (Originally Posted by buggeriamold)

Is that the first of the o2 on the right classic's?

No, that starts with Dave T's old unit (#69)

decoweenie · 31st May 2005, 13:59

Stuart,

If you ask Gordon, he will tell you that the only reason he put the OPV on the unit is to prevent people from blowing the unit up IF they forgot to turn the O2 off and close the DSV.

Diving-wise, you don't need the OPV at the top of the unit. So Ken could easily plug it off if he wants to put another one below.

TechBlue · 31st May 2005, 19:28

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

No, that starts with Dave T's old unit (#69)

Just as a point of interest, one of my students already has Sport KISS #69

Andy M · 31st May 2005, 21:09

Quote: (Originally Posted by TechBlue)

Just as a point of interest, one of my students already has Sport KISS #69

Umm. Sport KISS comes with serial numbers? First I have heard, or does this only apply to 007 and 69?

Andy

WBA · 31st May 2005, 23:37

Quote: (Originally Posted by Andy M)

Umm. Sport KISS comes with serial numbers? First I have heard, or does this only apply to 007 and 69?

Andy

Just before ours were shipped we received a list of serial numbers from Kim. I know I'm number 67 but I'd forgotten to look for the number. I'll check later and let you know where they're hidden.

Wayne

deepseacowboy · 1st June 2005, 00:33

You're #66 Wayne - I'm #67! Still don't know where the serial number is though...

Andy M · 1st June 2005, 00:35

Quote: (Originally Posted by deepseacowboy)

You're #66 Wayne - I'm #67! Still don't know where the serial number is though...

I looked all over the Sport KISS case when i got it. No serial number. There is no serial number on the invoice either. I think I shall email Kim...

31st May 2005, 11:42	#11 (permalink)
lizardland Yak Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North... Posts: 1,417	Quote: (Originally Posted by Ken) * a nice brain relaxer between bouts of administrative paperwork That's how it starts, next thing you know you'll be looking at lathes and have accounts with Swagelok and McMaster-Carr
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31st May 2005, 13:10	#12 (permalink)
buggeriamold Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: australia Posts: 100	Quote: Only 15days until Classic #59 becomes mine... and I definitely don't intend f***ing with it Well, not for a while anyway... only 2 after mine! Is that the first of the o2 on the right classic's? Mark __________________ Well, it is cheap stuff and it comes almost from the local gardening store, but it works fine and it's very solid. We tried to destroy one by hitting it with a hammer... we succeeded but we really had to hit it hard.
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31st May 2005, 13:11	#13 (permalink)
TechBlue RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Classic Kiss Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Optima Other CCR Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Costa del Sol, Spain Posts: 212	I agree with Phi on this one, in the words of DT it is more of a perceived problem than a real problem. It would be great to have a way to clear the loop but I think for the additional failure point it would introduce for the chance you may flood your loop which is not easy to do it's not worth the trouble. When I first got my unit I put a lot of time into trying to come up with a satisfactory solution and couldn't find a way to do it safely. Youi also have to bear in mind that you would be reaching behind you to either press or pull a dump at the same time you are increasing loop pressure to vent I could see some bouyancy issues and some fairly serious task loading, all while the shit is hittng the fan. If you do come up with a viable solution Ken I will be mightily impressed so keep on working on that brain relaxer. Cheers, Chris __________________ Cheers, Chris www.tech-blue.com The site dedicated to Rebreather and Technical diving "We only sell what we dive"
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31st May 2005, 13:57	#14 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,488	Quote: (Originally Posted by buggeriamold) Is that the first of the o2 on the right classic's? No, that starts with Dave T's old unit (#69)
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31st May 2005, 13:59	#15 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,488	Stuart, If you ask Gordon, he will tell you that the only reason he put the OPV on the unit is to prevent people from blowing the unit up IF they forgot to turn the O2 off and close the DSV. Diving-wise, you don't need the OPV at the top of the unit. So Ken could easily plug it off if he wants to put another one below.
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31st May 2005, 19:28	#16 (permalink)
TechBlue RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Classic Kiss Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Optima Other CCR Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Costa del Sol, Spain Posts: 212	Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) No, that starts with Dave T's old unit (#69) Just as a point of interest, one of my students already has Sport KISS #69 __________________ Cheers, Chris www.tech-blue.com The site dedicated to Rebreather and Technical diving "We only sell what we dive"
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31st May 2005, 21:09	#17 (permalink)
Andy M Dude Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 430	Quote: (Originally Posted by TechBlue) Just as a point of interest, one of my students already has Sport KISS #69 Umm. Sport KISS comes with serial numbers? First I have heard, or does this only apply to 007 and 69? Andy __________________ Know your PO2 at all times
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31st May 2005, 23:37	#18 (permalink)
WBA New Member Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Canada - Ontario Posts: 59	Quote: (Originally Posted by Andy M) Umm. Sport KISS comes with serial numbers? First I have heard, or does this only apply to 007 and 69? Andy Just before ours were shipped we received a list of serial numbers from Kim. I know I'm number 67 but I'd forgotten to look for the number. I'll check later and let you know where they're hidden. Wayne
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1st June 2005, 00:33	#19 (permalink)
deepseacowboy DeepSeaCowboy Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 37	You're #66 Wayne - I'm #67! Still don't know where the serial number is though...
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1st June 2005, 00:35	#20 (permalink)
Andy M Dude Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 430	Quote: (Originally Posted by deepseacowboy) You're #66 Wayne - I'm #67! Still don't know where the serial number is though... I looked all over the Sport KISS case when i got it. No serial number. There is no serial number on the invoice either. I think I shall email Kim... __________________ Know your PO2 at all times
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