Kiss...is it a modified Draeger?

h2ophotopro · 17th February 2006, 06:16

I have heard from many people describe the Sport Kiss as basically a modified Draeger....is there any truth to this?

abowie · 17th February 2006, 06:49

Quote: (Originally Posted by h2ophotopro)

I have heard from many people the Sport Kiss is basically a modified Draeger....is there any truth to this?

No it is not.

bubnotbub · 17th February 2006, 06:54

No NO NO

regards

Aldo

***caveseeker7*** · 17th February 2006, 06:54

Quote: (Originally Posted by h2ophotopro)

I have heard from many people describe the Sport Kiss as basically a modified Draeger....is there any truth to this?

Dude, you gotta get off that lithiox.

divetheworld · 17th February 2006, 06:58

Quote: (Originally Posted by h2ophotopro)

I have heard from many people describe the Sport Kiss as basically a modified Draeger....is there any truth to this?

No, way off the mark. Some might say thats wishful thinking.

h2ophotopro · 17th February 2006, 07:00

please dont take any offense to that guys...its just something ive heard a lot of. I really want to learn more about this unit, i am looking at getting certified on it, and Im just tryin to get all the info.

Can someone please elaborate as to why this rumor came about? what are the similarities of the two units? Im not tryin to be stupid...but there must be a reason this concept is being passed around.

Thank you

Steve · 17th February 2006, 07:04

Some people refer to backyard modified Dolphins as KISS rebreathers due to the liberal misuse of the term ‘KISS CCR’ to cover anything that has needle valve attached to it through to an actual Jetsam KISS Rebreather. This could be where the confusion comes from.

***caveseeker7*** · 17th February 2006, 07:06

Quote: (Originally Posted by h2ophotopro)

Can someone please elaborate as to why this rumor came about?

You're hanging with the wrong crowd.

Quote:

what are the similarities of the two units?

They both have:
- cmf valve (but they are different)
- DSV (but they are different)
- scrubber (but they are different)
- rearmounted counterlungs (but they are different)
- case to hold the scrubber and CL (but they are different)

bubnotbub · 17th February 2006, 07:08

Hi,
Perhaps because they exist many Draeger modified using system KISS,

but this does not render them absolutely similar.

Regards
Aldo

JonnyB · 17th February 2006, 07:09

[quote=h2ophotopro]Can someone please elaborate as to why this rumor came about?[quote]

Well one reason i can think of is that both have similar ways of adding a gas into the loop, though the SK adds O2 and the Dräger adds EANx. But then the similarities stop. Not even the addition is the except for the constant flow. They will both add the gas constantly but after that the KISS is designed to add the minimum amount of O2 that you will need and then you add the rest manually, but the dräger adds more than you need and therefor you have bubbles.

/Jonny

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abowie Fighting Girl Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Land of Oz Posts: 574	Re: Kiss...is it a modified Draeger? Quote: (Originally Posted by h2ophotopro) I have heard from many people the Sport Kiss is basically a modified Draeger....is there any truth to this? No it is not. __________________ Andrew Bowie Rebreather-friendly Buddy
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h2ophotopro Photo Pro Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Woodland Hills, CA Posts: 161	Re: Kiss...is it a modified Draeger? please dont take any offense to that guys...its just something ive heard a lot of. I really want to learn more about this unit, i am looking at getting certified on it, and Im just tryin to get all the info. Can someone please elaborate as to why this rumor came about? what are the similarities of the two units? Im not tryin to be stupid...but there must be a reason this concept is being passed around. Thank you __________________ Mike Luzansky H2O Photo Pros Underwater Photo & Video Visit our New Showroom 2429 W. Coast Hwy, #101 Newport Beach, CA 92663
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*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,560	Re: Kiss...is it a modified Draeger? Quote: (Originally Posted by h2ophotopro) Can someone please elaborate as to why this rumor came about? You're hanging with the wrong crowd. Quote: what are the similarities of the two units? They both have: - cmf valve (but they are different) - DSV (but they are different) - scrubber (but they are different) - rearmounted counterlungs (but they are different) - case to hold the scrubber and CL (but they are different) __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.!"
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bubnotbub Silent diver Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Ouroboros rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: France Italy Posts: 393	Re: Kiss...is it a modified Draeger? Hi, Perhaps because they exist many Draeger modified using system KISS, but this does not render them absolutely similar. Regards Aldo __________________ Aldo Ferrucci *Trimix and Rebreather IT* *Expedition Leader* *www.bubnotbub.com* I like bubbles only in my glass of Champagne
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JonnyB Johnny The Hatch Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Titan Other CCR Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Megalodon Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other CCR Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweden (Stockholm)/Cyprus(Ayia Napa) Posts: 992	Re: Kiss...is it a modified Draeger? [quote=h2ophotopro]Can someone please elaborate as to why this rumor came about?[quote] Well one reason i can think of is that both have similar ways of adding a gas into the loop, though the SK adds O2 and the Dräger adds EANx. But then the similarities stop. Not even the addition is the except for the constant flow. They will both add the gas constantly but after that the KISS is designed to add the minimum amount of O2 that you will need and then you add the rest manually, but the dräger adds more than you need and therefor you have bubbles. /Jonny __________________ A quote from Crazyduck - In remembering our own Rob Davies. "Outbound flight 777 heavy you are cleared for flight Due west into that warm red Texas sunset You have angels on your wings and divers memories on your six." Rest In Peace http://www.divetekcyprus.com http://www.diveccr.com
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