Display options

Dutchy · 20th May 2008, 19:01

Simple is GOOD, simpler is even BETTER (I like simple truths)

I'm very happy with my Dave Mager displays. Just as redundant as the original KISS displays (I still think the original idea was best) but a lot better build quality and IMHO more reliable in absence of micro controllers and DIY programmers.
As with the original displays there are three 0=rings per display BUT there are a few differences. The front is a thick sheet and the o-ring is in a simple groove. No swearing needed to insert one.
The calibration port is number two. The calibation port isn't as advanced as the original display one it's just a hole. (simple is GOOD) The hole is threaded and you can screw a big knob (no tools needed) in it. (you need a small screwdriver for the pot though)
Number three is in the cable gland as per normal...
Switching on is by removing a magnet from the exterior. You can't get much more reliable than that. Once more simple is ...

There's are two minor drawbacks. 1) Digits are small (much like the KISS ones) 2) No backlight. Although that means the battery lasts it is a drawback for sure.

**kevin stone** · 21st May 2008, 02:34

My vote
Hammer Head
You can double it up with your KISS dispalys.
You get deco,stack timer,and the best of all the DIVA.
I have it on both of my units both meatl and delrin handsets and no problems.
Kevin

ForTheFight · 21st May 2008, 12:19

I am very pleased with my Shearwater setup, it has proven both reliable and robust. I am running 2 Pursuits and a HUD, but a single Pursuit would be just fine.

silentscuba · 21st May 2008, 13:33

Don't forget and most people do not realize that you can purchase the Shearwater Pursuit set up just as a PPO2 display for $900 USD.

This model also includes depth, time and log book functions and can be upgraded to any of the other Pursuit models, what a deal!!!!.

cameron · 21st May 2008, 13:37

Subsea gets my vote.

Cam

Ukon · 21st May 2008, 14:55

I recently switched over to a Shearwater from the triple pendent display. I originally wanted the more simplistic Subsea setup, but found it to be near impossible to aquire one! I only have about 3 hrs on the Shearwater, but so far I love it. It is large, however it is a treat to deal with compared to the pendent.

curt · 21st May 2008, 15:15

For simplicity and reliability, you can't beat the Subsea DS1 display.

Dutchy · 21st May 2008, 15:34

Quote: (Originally Posted by ForTheFight)

I am very pleased with my Shearwater setup, it has proven both reliable and robust. I am running 2 Pursuits and a HUD, but a single Pursuit would be just fine.

Why do you think a single pursuit is fine? Is it redundant in itself? Will you pickup on any error it makes?

Quote: (Originally Posted by silentscuba)

Don't forget and most people do not realize that you can purchase the Shearwater Pursuit set up just as a PPO2 display for $900 USD.

Can you really? I've tried so for a few months but I was told they were not delivered because there were still issues to be solved. Is it really available now?

Quote: (Originally Posted by curt)

For simplicity and reliability, you can't beat the Subsea DS1 display.

Based on what? Does it have any single point of failures?

cameron · 21st May 2008, 16:06

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dutchy)

Based on what? Does it have any single point of failures?

If you look at the display on its own, then every system has a single point of failure. A single KISS display can fail with a flood, just as a shearwater or a subsea display. How the system as a whole is implemented is really what will decide what level of failure tolerance that the system will provide. In the end that is up to the user.

The OP said that he was happy with 3 cell readings on his arm so pretty much any display would work, and with that, usability and personal preference is what these comments are based on.

Cam

lpartridge · 21st May 2008, 17:49

Hi Dutchy

Martin @ Tec-Me usually has a good supply of Shearwater displays in stock.

Lynn

20th May 2008, 19:01	#11 (permalink)
Dutchy Rene Warries Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Nieuwegein (The Netherlands) Posts: 770	Re: Display options Simple is GOOD, simpler is even BETTER (I like simple truths) I'm very happy with my Dave Mager displays. Just as redundant as the original KISS displays (I still think the original idea was best) but a lot better build quality and IMHO more reliable in absence of micro controllers and DIY programmers. As with the original displays there are three 0=rings per display BUT there are a few differences. The front is a thick sheet and the o-ring is in a simple groove. No swearing needed to insert one. The calibration port is number two. The calibation port isn't as advanced as the original display one it's just a hole. (simple is GOOD) The hole is threaded and you can screw a big knob (no tools needed) in it. (you need a small screwdriver for the pot though) Number three is in the cable gland as per normal... Switching on is by removing a magnet from the exterior. You can't get much more reliable than that. Once more simple is ... There's are two minor drawbacks. 1) Digits are small (much like the KISS ones) 2) No backlight. Although that means the battery lasts it is a drawback for sure. __________________ = This post is environmentally friendly. It is composed of 100% recycled electrons only. = Last edited by Dutchy : 20th May 2008 at 19:04.
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21st May 2008, 02:34	#12 (permalink)
kevin stone Supporting Member Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: us ct. Posts: 215	Re: Display options My vote Hammer Head You can double it up with your KISS dispalys. You get deco,stack timer,and the best of all the DIVA. I have it on both of my units both meatl and delrin handsets and no problems. Kevin
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21st May 2008, 12:19	#13 (permalink)
ForTheFight Eliot Danner Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Dolphin Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 225	Re: Display options I am very pleased with my Shearwater setup, it has proven both reliable and robust. I am running 2 Pursuits and a HUD, but a single Pursuit would be just fine. __________________ This post may be up to 80% accurate...the remaining 20% is speculation.
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21st May 2008, 13:33	#14 (permalink)
silentscuba rEvo CCR Driver Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic rEvo Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mill Creek, WA USA Posts: 587	Re: Display options Don't forget and most people do not realize that you can purchase the Shearwater Pursuit set up just as a PPO2 display for $900 USD. This model also includes depth, time and log book functions and can be upgraded to any of the other Pursuit models, what a deal!!!!. __________________ Curt McNamee rEvo CCR Diver KISS CCR Diver www.silentscuba.com
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21st May 2008, 13:37	#15 (permalink)
cameron Classic Kiss 124 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 252	Re: Display options Subsea gets my vote. Cam __________________ Reclaim at work and CCR at home, life is good
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21st May 2008, 14:55	#16 (permalink)
Ukon New Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Northeast Posts: 52	Re: Display options I recently switched over to a Shearwater from the triple pendent display. I originally wanted the more simplistic Subsea setup, but found it to be near impossible to aquire one! I only have about 3 hrs on the Shearwater, but so far I love it. It is large, however it is a treat to deal with compared to the pendent.
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21st May 2008, 15:15	#17 (permalink)
curt New Member Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Classic Kiss MK 15.X Other CCR Dolphin Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rockville, MD USA Posts: 93	Re: Display options For simplicity and reliability, you can't beat the Subsea DS1 display. __________________ Curt Harpold US Representative Rebreathers Australia http://rebreathers.com.au/
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21st May 2008, 15:34	#18 (permalink)
Dutchy Rene Warries Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Nieuwegein (The Netherlands) Posts: 770	Re: Display options Quote: (Originally Posted by ForTheFight) I am very pleased with my Shearwater setup, it has proven both reliable and robust. I am running 2 Pursuits and a HUD, but a single Pursuit would be just fine. Why do you think a single pursuit is fine? Is it redundant in itself? Will you pickup on any error it makes? Quote: (Originally Posted by silentscuba) Don't forget and most people do not realize that you can purchase the Shearwater Pursuit set up just as a PPO2 display for $900 USD. Can you really? I've tried so for a few months but I was told they were not delivered because there were still issues to be solved. Is it really available now? Quote: (Originally Posted by curt) For simplicity and reliability, you can't beat the Subsea DS1 display. Based on what? Does it have any single point of failures? __________________ = This post is environmentally friendly. It is composed of 100% recycled electrons only. =
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21st May 2008, 16:06	#19 (permalink)
cameron Classic Kiss 124 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 252	Re: Display options Quote: (Originally Posted by Dutchy) Based on what? Does it have any single point of failures? If you look at the display on its own, then every system has a single point of failure. A single KISS display can fail with a flood, just as a shearwater or a subsea display. How the system as a whole is implemented is really what will decide what level of failure tolerance that the system will provide. In the end that is up to the user. The OP said that he was happy with 3 cell readings on his arm so pretty much any display would work, and with that, usability and personal preference is what these comments are based on. Cam __________________ Reclaim at work and CCR at home, life is good
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21st May 2008, 17:49	#20 (permalink)
lpartridge New Member Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 13	Re: Display options Hi Dutchy Martin @ Tec-Me usually has a good supply of Shearwater displays in stock. Lynn
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