Wing/Suit LP ports

Smudgegs · 2nd May 2008, 22:30

Don't know if it's standard or not, as I just got my hands on my new (well new to me) KISS tonight

however the LP ports for wing/suit on mine point out and up at my right shoulder (as in the pic below).
So, is this normal? and if it is, how do people route hoses? Do you use some sort of 90deg bend or just a longer hose doubled back on itself?
Any ideas? (not that I'm itching to bolt on a spare wing and take it for a play

lol)
Thanks,
Smudge

(edited 'cause I forgot to subscribe to my own thread

)

Andy Del · 2nd May 2008, 23:30

Well, it looks like you have one of the eary classic KISSes. They had the O2 and dil tanks reversed (rich left, lean right) so all the associated attchments were also reversed.

There should be another port on your manifold on the inboard side, which can take a wing inflate hose.

For your suit inflation, rather than keeep all your inflationary eggs in one basket, you could grab a small 1 or 2 litre tank for this purpose. This has become more common down under, following an accident where the need for onboard suit inflation was a contributing factor.

I'm sure this will all be covered in your training / crossover course...

Another option is to just send the whole thing to me and I'll take care of it for you...

Smudgegs · 3rd May 2008, 08:42

Thanks for the info Andy, as regards your kind offer to look after the set for me, unfortunately the postage would be prohibitive so I'll just have to soldier on diving it myself

xpabu · 3rd May 2008, 10:21

Andy's offer is very generous, but i know what you mean about postage. Therefore, i gracefully offer to provide the same service, and what's more, i'll come and pick the unit up. No problem at all.

Your manifold does look like it points the hoses up and out... i've attached a picture of mine--the hosese seem to follow the line of the CL case (i.e. down).

Let me know when i should come and pick up the unit...

P

Smudgegs · 3rd May 2008, 13:12

Quote: (Originally Posted by xpabu)

Let me know when i should come and pick up the unit...

P

Anytime at all... just remember to drop off your SK and CK as security

Btw, did you do a course with anyone local, or are you self taught?
Edited to add, just checked your profile and remembered you already told me!! Seems we have a mutual aqcuaintance, I know Max from your club because of the Dolphin and through him helping out Cupar club. Small East of Scotland diving world!! I take it you are on Conger alley/Finstrokes?

RAL · 3rd May 2008, 13:15

[quote=Smudgegs;184796]Don't know if it's standard or not, as I just got my hands on my new (well new to me) KISS tonight

however the LP ports for wing/suit on mine point out and up at my right shoulder (as in the pic below).
So, is this normal? and if it is, how do people route hoses? Do you use some sort of 90deg bend or just a longer hose doubled back on itself?
Any ideas? (not that I'm itching to bolt on a spare wing and take it for a play

lol)
Thanks,
Smudge

(edited 'cause I forgot to subscribe to my own thread

)

http://www.rebreatherworld.com/photo...m/DSC01084.JPG

Sticking out in the breeze like that creates drag & snag. I used 90s to clean things up a bit. Some will say the 90s create another failure point. I think that having the hoses protected more than offsets that concern. Just make sure to use quality hardware.
RAL

Smudgegs · 3rd May 2008, 13:23

Looks much tidier RAL, I've not seen that sort of union before, is it a diving part or from somewhere else?

RAL · 3rd May 2008, 15:38

Quote: (Originally Posted by Smudgegs)

Looks much tidier RAL, I've not seen that sort of union before, is it a diving part or from somewhere else?

SCUBA Hoses and Adapters..Variety of Lengths, Colors, Fittings

Common item. Not sure who is in your neck of the woods but others supply them also. Do not get the cheap ones buy from a quality supplier, the cheap ones can fail.

RAL

xpabu · 3rd May 2008, 15:41

Quote: (Originally Posted by Smudgegs)

Anytime at all... just remember to drop off your SK and CK as security

cough cough! Offer withdrawn!

Quote:

just checked your profile and remembered you already told me!!

Indeed, i went down to plymouth for my training... wish i hadn't had to but not much choice.

Quote:

I know Max from your club because of the Dolphin

Ah---everyone knows Max!

As for the 90s, i may have a couple of spares kicking about somewhere if you're considering them?
P

Philippe GERIN · 6th May 2008, 20:58

Looks to me that it's backwards. You should be ok if you rotate it 180°.
Best
Philippe

2nd May 2008, 22:30	#1 (permalink)
Smudgegs Divetart Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 125	Wing/Suit LP ports Don't know if it's standard or not, as I just got my hands on my new (well new to me) KISS tonight however the LP ports for wing/suit on mine point out and up at my right shoulder (as in the pic below). So, is this normal? and if it is, how do people route hoses? Do you use some sort of 90deg bend or just a longer hose doubled back on itself? Any ideas? (not that I'm itching to bolt on a spare wing and take it for a play lol) Thanks, Smudge (edited 'cause I forgot to subscribe to my own thread )
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2nd May 2008, 23:30	#2 (permalink)
Andy Del Classic KISSer Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Australia, Sunny Sydney Posts: 410	Re: Wing/Suit LP ports Well, it looks like you have one of the eary classic KISSes. They had the O2 and dil tanks reversed (rich left, lean right) so all the associated attchments were also reversed. There should be another port on your manifold on the inboard side, which can take a wing inflate hose. For your suit inflation, rather than keeep all your inflationary eggs in one basket, you could grab a small 1 or 2 litre tank for this purpose. This has become more common down under, following an accident where the need for onboard suit inflation was a contributing factor. I'm sure this will all be covered in your training / crossover course... Another option is to just send the whole thing to me and I'll take care of it for you... __________________ Yellow - the colour of greatness!
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3rd May 2008, 08:42	#3 (permalink)
Smudgegs Divetart Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 125	Re: Wing/Suit LP ports Thanks for the info Andy, as regards your kind offer to look after the set for me, unfortunately the postage would be prohibitive so I'll just have to soldier on diving it myself
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3rd May 2008, 13:12	#5 (permalink)
Smudgegs Divetart Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 125	Re: Wing/Suit LP ports Quote: (Originally Posted by xpabu) Let me know when i should come and pick up the unit... P Anytime at all... just remember to drop off your SK and CK as security Btw, did you do a course with anyone local, or are you self taught? Edited to add, just checked your profile and remembered you already told me!! Seems we have a mutual aqcuaintance, I know Max from your club because of the Dolphin and through him helping out Cupar club. Small East of Scotland diving world!! I take it you are on Conger alley/Finstrokes? Last edited by Smudgegs : 3rd May 2008 at 13:17.
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3rd May 2008, 13:15	#6 (permalink)
RAL Longbottom Time Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Florida Posts: 386	Re: Wing/Suit LP ports [quote=Smudgegs;184796]Don't know if it's standard or not, as I just got my hands on my new (well new to me) KISS tonight however the LP ports for wing/suit on mine point out and up at my right shoulder (as in the pic below). So, is this normal? and if it is, how do people route hoses? Do you use some sort of 90deg bend or just a longer hose doubled back on itself? Any ideas? (not that I'm itching to bolt on a spare wing and take it for a play lol) Thanks, Smudge (edited 'cause I forgot to subscribe to my own thread ) http://www.rebreatherworld.com/photo...m/DSC01084.JPG Sticking out in the breeze like that creates drag & snag. I used 90s to clean things up a bit. Some will say the 90s create another failure point. I think that having the hoses protected more than offsets that concern. Just make sure to use quality hardware. RAL __________________ The sea does not care about you.
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3rd May 2008, 13:23	#7 (permalink)
Smudgegs Divetart Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 125	Re: Wing/Suit LP ports Looks much tidier RAL, I've not seen that sort of union before, is it a diving part or from somewhere else?
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3rd May 2008, 15:38	#8 (permalink)
RAL Longbottom Time Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Florida Posts: 386	Re: Wing/Suit LP ports Quote: (Originally Posted by Smudgegs) Looks much tidier RAL, I've not seen that sort of union before, is it a diving part or from somewhere else? SCUBA Hoses and Adapters..Variety of Lengths, Colors, Fittings Common item. Not sure who is in your neck of the woods but others supply them also. Do not get the cheap ones buy from a quality supplier, the cheap ones can fail. RAL __________________ The sea does not care about you.
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3rd May 2008, 15:41	#9 (permalink)
xpabu New Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 51	Re: Wing/Suit LP ports Quote: (Originally Posted by Smudgegs) Anytime at all... just remember to drop off your SK and CK as security cough cough! Offer withdrawn! Quote: just checked your profile and remembered you already told me!! Indeed, i went down to plymouth for my training... wish i hadn't had to but not much choice. Quote: I know Max from your club because of the Dolphin Ah---everyone knows Max! As for the 90s, i may have a couple of spares kicking about somewhere if you're considering them? P
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6th May 2008, 20:58	#10 (permalink)
Philippe GERIN ccr apprentice Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Strasbourg, France Posts: 633	Re: Wing/Suit LP ports Looks to me that it's backwards. You should be ok if you rotate it 180°. Best Philippe
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