Cable Gland Thread

ForTheFight · 26th March 2008, 11:11

Does anyone know what the thread on the black plastic cable gland for the triple displays is?

...I suppose I should also ask how I go about getting a hole drilled and tapped for this too...I am guessing a machine shop?

**Dave1w** · 2nd April 2008, 03:43

If you look closely at teh cable gland it has a thread stamped. I think it is M12 x 1.5 from memory.
Cheers

Dave

**Dave Sutton** · 2nd April 2008, 09:56

The identical gland may be cheaply purchased with pipe threads (US Spec) as well, making it as easy as drilling a hole and tapping it with a pipe tap to install in new heads, etc. Otherwise it's off to buy a metric tap. The cables may be passed thru the glands if the Molex pins are removed from the Molex shell, and reassembled after the cable is passed thru the gland.

Glands were about $5.00 last time I looked. They are semi-disposable.

Dave

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jkaterenchuk · 2nd April 2008, 12:05

Sorry for the hijack but at least in the same vein.

Does anyone know where I can buy a tool to properly tighten the Gland securely into the Kiss Classic kidney? Needle nose plier only get you so far! There is not much clearance around the hole into the kidney and of course the wire gets in the way of using a socket.

John

Craig69 · 3rd April 2008, 12:09

Quote: (Originally Posted by jkaterenchuk)

Sorry for the hijack but at least in the same vein.

Does anyone know where I can buy a tool to properly tighten the Gland securely into the Kiss Classic kidney? Needle nose plier only get you so far! There is not much clearance around the hole into the kidney and of course the wire gets in the way of using a socket.

John

I managed to get mine tight enough with small needle nose pliers wrapped in tape to prevent them damging the gland as it needed a really tight grip. It wasn't ideal though.

**Dave Sutton** · 4th April 2008, 01:41

Quote: (Originally Posted by jkaterenchuk)

Sorry for the hijack but at least in the same vein.

Does anyone know where I can buy a tool to properly tighten the Gland securely into the Kiss Classic kidney? Needle nose plier only get you so far! There is not much clearance around the hole into the kidney and of course the wire gets in the way of using a socket.

John

You cut a slot in a deep socket so it fits over the gland, while allowing the wire to come thru the slot. The slot is made with an end mill and a milling machine and it starts at the end of the socket and comes up the side almost to the other end.

OR

You pull the pins from the Molex connector (unlatch them with a jewelers screwdriver thru the slot on the side), loosen (remove) the nut on the gland, and slide the wire right out of the gland body. Tighten with a thin wall socket and then reinstall the cable, and lastly push the pins back into the Molex connector.

Tighten away!

Dave

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Chris_H · 4th April 2008, 02:04

I don't have a CK yet, but from Dave's description, it looks as though a flare nut socket might work. As usual, Snap-On isn't giving anything away, but I like to look at their stuff

Snap-on Tools

jkaterenchuk · 4th April 2008, 02:05

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton)

You cut a slot in a deep socket so it fits over the gland, while allowing the wire to come thru the slot. The slot is made with an end mill and a milling machine and it starts at the end of the socket and comes up the side almost to the other end.

OR

You pull the pins from the Molex connector (unlatch them with a jewelers screwdriver thru the slot on the side), loosen (remove) the nut on the gland, and slide the wire right out of the gland body. Tighten with a thin wall socket and then reinstall the cable, and lastly push the pins back into the Molex connector.

Tighten away!

Dave

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I was thinking about the deep socket but need to find someone that can cut the slot. Unfotunately, I do not have the tools to do it and don't know anyone that does.

I am not sure if the second option would work. If I remember correctly the wire has a plastic piece like a ferrel that has spiral slits across its diameter so that as you tighten the nut it tightens around the wire. So I am not sure how the wire could be reinserted into this ferrel after the nut is tightened.

The first choice would be the socket with the slot.

Thanks for the suggestions.

John

jkaterenchuk · 4th April 2008, 02:08

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chris_H)

I don't have a CK yet, but from Dave's description, it looks as though a flare nut socket might work. As usual, Snap-On isn't giving anything away, but I like to look at their stuff

Snap-on Tools

Thanks, Never heard of a Flare nut socket but it looks like they would work provide the wall thickness on the socket is thin enough.

John

Chris_H · 4th April 2008, 02:20

Quote: (Originally Posted by jkaterenchuk)

Thanks, Never heard of a Flare nut socket but it looks like they would work provide the wall thickness on the socket is thin enough.

John

Pay attention while driving around town, and the next time you notice a Snap-On truck parked at the local car dealership stop and ask the driver if he/she has one you can look at. They are usually more than happy to get you on their trucks as they are filled with expensive toys. I checked Craftsman, and they don't have them. Oxygen sensor sockets also have a slot, but they are typically pretty large.

26th March 2008, 11:11	#1 (permalink)
ForTheFight Eliot Danner Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Dolphin Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 225	Cable Gland Thread Does anyone know what the thread on the black plastic cable gland for the triple displays is? ...I suppose I should also ask how I go about getting a hole drilled and tapped for this too...I am guessing a machine shop? __________________ This post may be up to 80% accurate...the remaining 20% is speculation. Last edited by ForTheFight : 26th March 2008 at 11:45.
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2nd April 2008, 03:43	#2 (permalink)
Dave1w Born Again Diver! Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Dolphin Ray Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Dolphin Ray Home Build Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore / UK Posts: 343	Re: Cable Gland Thread If you look closely at teh cable gland it has a thread stamped. I think it is M12 x 1.5 from memory. Cheers Dave __________________ This message may contain spelling mistakes as it was generated by an idiot.
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2nd April 2008, 09:56	#3 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Diveshop of Horrors Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,672	Re: Cable Gland Thread The identical gland may be cheaply purchased with pipe threads (US Spec) as well, making it as easy as drilling a hole and tapping it with a pipe tap to install in new heads, etc. Otherwise it's off to buy a metric tap. The cables may be passed thru the glands if the Molex pins are removed from the Molex shell, and reassembled after the cable is passed thru the gland. Glands were about $5.00 last time I looked. They are semi-disposable. Dave . __________________ "Changes in Lattitudes, Changes in Attitudes, Nothing remains quite the same".... www.nobubblediving.com
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2nd April 2008, 12:05	#4 (permalink)
jkaterenchuk . Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lititz, PA Posts: 827	Re: Cable Gland Thread Sorry for the hijack but at least in the same vein. Does anyone know where I can buy a tool to properly tighten the Gland securely into the Kiss Classic kidney? Needle nose plier only get you so far! There is not much clearance around the hole into the kidney and of course the wire gets in the way of using a socket. John
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3rd April 2008, 12:09	#5 (permalink)
Craig69 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Barnsley, South Yorkshire (Gods Own County), England. Posts: 123	Re: Cable Gland Thread Quote: (Originally Posted by jkaterenchuk) Sorry for the hijack but at least in the same vein. Does anyone know where I can buy a tool to properly tighten the Gland securely into the Kiss Classic kidney? Needle nose plier only get you so far! There is not much clearance around the hole into the kidney and of course the wire gets in the way of using a socket. John I managed to get mine tight enough with small needle nose pliers wrapped in tape to prevent them damging the gland as it needed a really tight grip. It wasn't ideal though. __________________ Craig. www.thornebsac.co.uk
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4th April 2008, 01:41	#6 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Diveshop of Horrors Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,672	Re: Cable Gland Thread Quote: (Originally Posted by jkaterenchuk) Sorry for the hijack but at least in the same vein. Does anyone know where I can buy a tool to properly tighten the Gland securely into the Kiss Classic kidney? Needle nose plier only get you so far! There is not much clearance around the hole into the kidney and of course the wire gets in the way of using a socket. John You cut a slot in a deep socket so it fits over the gland, while allowing the wire to come thru the slot. The slot is made with an end mill and a milling machine and it starts at the end of the socket and comes up the side almost to the other end. OR You pull the pins from the Molex connector (unlatch them with a jewelers screwdriver thru the slot on the side), loosen (remove) the nut on the gland, and slide the wire right out of the gland body. Tighten with a thin wall socket and then reinstall the cable, and lastly push the pins back into the Molex connector. Tighten away! Dave . __________________ "Changes in Lattitudes, Changes in Attitudes, Nothing remains quite the same".... www.nobubblediving.com Last edited by Dave Sutton : 4th April 2008 at 01:43.
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4th April 2008, 02:04	#7 (permalink)
Chris_H New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11	Re: Cable Gland Thread I don't have a CK yet, but from Dave's description, it looks as though a flare nut socket might work. As usual, Snap-On isn't giving anything away, but I like to look at their stuff Snap-on Tools
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4th April 2008, 02:05	#8 (permalink)
jkaterenchuk . Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lititz, PA Posts: 827	Re: Cable Gland Thread Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton) You cut a slot in a deep socket so it fits over the gland, while allowing the wire to come thru the slot. The slot is made with an end mill and a milling machine and it starts at the end of the socket and comes up the side almost to the other end. OR You pull the pins from the Molex connector (unlatch them with a jewelers screwdriver thru the slot on the side), loosen (remove) the nut on the gland, and slide the wire right out of the gland body. Tighten with a thin wall socket and then reinstall the cable, and lastly push the pins back into the Molex connector. Tighten away! Dave . I was thinking about the deep socket but need to find someone that can cut the slot. Unfotunately, I do not have the tools to do it and don't know anyone that does. I am not sure if the second option would work. If I remember correctly the wire has a plastic piece like a ferrel that has spiral slits across its diameter so that as you tighten the nut it tightens around the wire. So I am not sure how the wire could be reinserted into this ferrel after the nut is tightened. The first choice would be the socket with the slot. Thanks for the suggestions. John
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4th April 2008, 02:08	#9 (permalink)
jkaterenchuk . Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lititz, PA Posts: 827	Re: Cable Gland Thread Quote: (Originally Posted by Chris_H) I don't have a CK yet, but from Dave's description, it looks as though a flare nut socket might work. As usual, Snap-On isn't giving anything away, but I like to look at their stuff Snap-on Tools Thanks, Never heard of a Flare nut socket but it looks like they would work provide the wall thickness on the socket is thin enough. John
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4th April 2008, 02:20	#10 (permalink)
Chris_H New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11	Re: Cable Gland Thread Quote: (Originally Posted by jkaterenchuk) Thanks, Never heard of a Flare nut socket but it looks like they would work provide the wall thickness on the socket is thin enough. John Pay attention while driving around town, and the next time you notice a Snap-On truck parked at the local car dealership stop and ask the driver if he/she has one you can look at. They are usually more than happy to get you on their trucks as they are filled with expensive toys. I checked Craftsman, and they don't have them. Oxygen sensor sockets also have a slot, but they are typically pretty large.
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