Paragon->Mares BOV

David Pye · 18th July 2007, 17:48

Just had a quick query - is it possible to convert an old-style paragon BOV to take the Mares reg, or is it a case of purchasing a new BOV?

Cheers,

David

colinicky · 18th July 2007, 17:55

There is a new adapter piece sold by Jetsam believe it is about £50 ish
HTH

akscubainst · 18th July 2007, 17:56

Once you have the adapter it can be used to adapt many different types/brands of regs to the BOV.

Dave

David Pye · 18th July 2007, 17:57

Thanks for the replies, chaps - is there a list somewhere of what regs can then be fitted?

Also, on a similar vein, does Jetsam publish a complete list of parts and their costs, or do you have to contact them for every one?

Cheers!

akscubainst · 18th July 2007, 18:26

Price list http://www.jetsam.ca/PDFs/ClassicPartspriceList.pdf

Page through the KISS forum there are several threads on it as well as lots of pic's in the KISS gallery. I put a Scubapro R380 on mine.

Dave

onetime · 18th July 2007, 20:13

A couple of weeks back I adapted my Scubapro S600 second stage to fit the KISS BOV. I sacrificed my Paragon to do so though. I had a bit of a leak going on the paragon somewhere and was trying to track it down (I think it was coming from the adjustment knob) and in so doing I lost the screw that held the knob onto the reg. Figured what the hell why not see about mating up one of my S600's since I've been planning on doing it forever.

Looking at the opening on the BOV compared to the S600 and it was obvious that it would take quite a bit of filing to make it fit and it wouldn't leave much room for error. Looking @ the Paragon I saw that the mouthpiece tab (for lack of a better word, it's what fits into the opening of the BOV) was around the right size to fit inside the S600 mouthpiece tab with a little shaping. So, out came the Dremel with a cutting disc. I cut the tab off the Paragon and was going to fit it into the S600 when a quicker thought came to mind. The Paragon tab was a bit too big to fit inside the opening of the S600 tab but rested pretty firmly on its tab. So, out came the epoxy and I simply epoxied the Paragon tab to the S600 tab. Problem solved. Stock o-ring from the Paragon is used to seal it, perfect fit since it's the same tab used from the factory, and the stock plate that held the Paragon holds the S600.

David Pye · 18th July 2007, 21:06

Quote: (Originally Posted by onetime)

A couple of weeks back I adapted my Scubapro S600 second stage to fit the KISS BOV. I sacrificed my Paragon to do so though. I had a bit of a leak going on the paragon somewhere and was trying to track it down (I think it was coming from the adjustment knob) and in so doing I lost the screw that held the knob onto the reg. Figured what the hell why not see about mating up one of my S600's since I've been planning on doing it forever.

Looking at the opening on the BOV compared to the S600 and it was obvious that it would take quite a bit of filing to make it fit and it wouldn't leave much room for error. Looking @ the Paragon I saw that the mouthpiece tab (for lack of a better word, it's what fits into the opening of the BOV) was around the right size to fit inside the S600 mouthpiece tab with a little shaping. So, out came the Dremel with a cutting disc. I cut the tab off the Paragon and was going to fit it into the S600 when a quicker thought came to mind. The Paragon tab was a bit too big to fit inside the opening of the S600 tab but rested pretty firmly on its tab. So, out came the epoxy and I simply epoxied the Paragon tab to the S600 tab. Problem solved. Stock o-ring from the Paragon is used to seal it, perfect fit since it's the same tab used from the factory, and the stock plate that held the Paragon holds the S600.

That's particularly interesting, as the pile of alternative regs I have are an S600, an R395 and an R295.

I think as I've only got one S600, I'd rather keep that on the bailout bottle, and maybe put the R395 on the BOV, with the R295 on the 50% deco bottle. Do you happen to know whether the R395 will mate happily with the Jetsam Mares adaptor? I don't really fancy dremelling or epoxying, as it's the kind of thing I'd end up screwing up

onetime · 19th July 2007, 01:35

Quote: (Originally Posted by David Pye)

That's particularly interesting, as the pile of alternative regs I have are an S600, an R395 and an R295.

I think as I've only got one S600, I'd rather keep that on the bailout bottle, and maybe put the R395 on the BOV, with the R295 on the 50% deco bottle. Do you happen to know whether the R395 will mate happily with the Jetsam Mares adaptor? I don't really fancy dremelling or epoxying, as it's the kind of thing I'd end up screwing up

Don't know off hand but I'll wager you'll have to modify the adapter for anything other than the Mares.

18th July 2007, 17:48	#1 (permalink)
David Pye CK#69 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2006 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 174	Paragon->Mares BOV Just had a quick query - is it possible to convert an old-style paragon BOV to take the Mares reg, or is it a case of purchasing a new BOV? Cheers, David
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18th July 2007, 17:55	#2 (permalink)
colinicky Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: uk Posts: 676	Re: Paragon->Mares BOV There is a new adapter piece sold by Jetsam believe it is about £50 ish HTH __________________ Colin I trust my rebreather completely , I just don't trust the user onwards & downwards
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18th July 2007, 17:56	#3 (permalink)
akscubainst It's cold here! Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Juneau, Alaska Posts: 65	Re: Paragon->Mares BOV Once you have the adapter it can be used to adapt many different types/brands of regs to the BOV. Dave __________________ --------------------------------------- Dave Mitchell Classic KISS #200 Juneau, Alaska
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18th July 2007, 17:57	#4 (permalink)
David Pye CK#69 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2006 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 174	Re: Paragon->Mares BOV Thanks for the replies, chaps - is there a list somewhere of what regs can then be fitted? Also, on a similar vein, does Jetsam publish a complete list of parts and their costs, or do you have to contact them for every one? Cheers!
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18th July 2007, 18:26	#5 (permalink)
akscubainst It's cold here! Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Juneau, Alaska Posts: 65	Re: Paragon->Mares BOV Price list http://www.jetsam.ca/PDFs/ClassicPartspriceList.pdf Page through the KISS forum there are several threads on it as well as lots of pic's in the KISS gallery. I put a Scubapro R380 on mine. Dave __________________ --------------------------------------- Dave Mitchell Classic KISS #200 Juneau, Alaska
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18th July 2007, 20:13	#6 (permalink)
onetime Classic KISSer #138 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: US, NJ Posts: 696	Re: Paragon->Mares BOV A couple of weeks back I adapted my Scubapro S600 second stage to fit the KISS BOV. I sacrificed my Paragon to do so though. I had a bit of a leak going on the paragon somewhere and was trying to track it down (I think it was coming from the adjustment knob) and in so doing I lost the screw that held the knob onto the reg. Figured what the hell why not see about mating up one of my S600's since I've been planning on doing it forever. Looking at the opening on the BOV compared to the S600 and it was obvious that it would take quite a bit of filing to make it fit and it wouldn't leave much room for error. Looking @ the Paragon I saw that the mouthpiece tab (for lack of a better word, it's what fits into the opening of the BOV) was around the right size to fit inside the S600 mouthpiece tab with a little shaping. So, out came the Dremel with a cutting disc. I cut the tab off the Paragon and was going to fit it into the S600 when a quicker thought came to mind. The Paragon tab was a bit too big to fit inside the opening of the S600 tab but rested pretty firmly on its tab. So, out came the epoxy and I simply epoxied the Paragon tab to the S600 tab. Problem solved. Stock o-ring from the Paragon is used to seal it, perfect fit since it's the same tab used from the factory, and the stock plate that held the Paragon holds the S600.
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18th July 2007, 21:06	#7 (permalink)
David Pye CK#69 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2006 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 174	Re: Paragon->Mares BOV Quote: (Originally Posted by onetime) A couple of weeks back I adapted my Scubapro S600 second stage to fit the KISS BOV. I sacrificed my Paragon to do so though. I had a bit of a leak going on the paragon somewhere and was trying to track it down (I think it was coming from the adjustment knob) and in so doing I lost the screw that held the knob onto the reg. Figured what the hell why not see about mating up one of my S600's since I've been planning on doing it forever. Looking at the opening on the BOV compared to the S600 and it was obvious that it would take quite a bit of filing to make it fit and it wouldn't leave much room for error. Looking @ the Paragon I saw that the mouthpiece tab (for lack of a better word, it's what fits into the opening of the BOV) was around the right size to fit inside the S600 mouthpiece tab with a little shaping. So, out came the Dremel with a cutting disc. I cut the tab off the Paragon and was going to fit it into the S600 when a quicker thought came to mind. The Paragon tab was a bit too big to fit inside the opening of the S600 tab but rested pretty firmly on its tab. So, out came the epoxy and I simply epoxied the Paragon tab to the S600 tab. Problem solved. Stock o-ring from the Paragon is used to seal it, perfect fit since it's the same tab used from the factory, and the stock plate that held the Paragon holds the S600. That's particularly interesting, as the pile of alternative regs I have are an S600, an R395 and an R295. I think as I've only got one S600, I'd rather keep that on the bailout bottle, and maybe put the R395 on the BOV, with the R295 on the 50% deco bottle. Do you happen to know whether the R395 will mate happily with the Jetsam Mares adaptor? I don't really fancy dremelling or epoxying, as it's the kind of thing I'd end up screwing up
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19th July 2007, 01:35	#8 (permalink)
onetime Classic KISSer #138 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: US, NJ Posts: 696	Re: Paragon->Mares BOV Quote: (Originally Posted by David Pye) That's particularly interesting, as the pile of alternative regs I have are an S600, an R395 and an R295. I think as I've only got one S600, I'd rather keep that on the bailout bottle, and maybe put the R395 on the BOV, with the R295 on the 50% deco bottle. Do you happen to know whether the R395 will mate happily with the Jetsam Mares adaptor? I don't really fancy dremelling or epoxying, as it's the kind of thing I'd end up screwing up Don't know off hand but I'll wager you'll have to modify the adapter for anything other than the Mares.
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