Hi from Dublin, Ireland

smcmullan · 30th August 2006, 11:01

Hi, I'm based in Dublin, Ireland.

Been diving on and off since 1999 with about 130 dives under my belt (roughly 50:50 split between warm and cold water) e.g. Dublin bay, Kilkee, Islandmagee, Portacloy, Killary, Kilkieran Bay, Maharees, St. Johns Point, Inishbofin, Slieve League/Malinbeg, Saltees (all in Ireland) and abroad e.g. Mallorca, Cyprus, Lanzarote, Malta, Queensland GBR.

I'm currently a member of the BSAC club - Dublin University Sub Aqua Club. PADI Rescue/BSAC Sports Diver and have done TDI Advanced Nitrox which lead me on to this lark.

I'm just at the curious stage with respect to rebreathers. I've been reading this forum a bit and thinking about the choices ahead of me. There's some great info here about CCR vs OC and the practicalities, costs associated etc.

I see there are quite a few APD Inspiration Classics coming up for sale. Some are brand new from just the beginning of this season. I guess the sellers are moving to Inspiration Visions (are they THAT good compared to the Classic?) but they must be losing $$$$ with the resale value. For a rebreather newbie is it worth picking up a relatively cheap second hand Classic or saving the bucks and going straight to Vision?

Cheers, Stephen

Loneshark · 30th August 2006, 11:36

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Hi, Welcome to Rebreather World!
You'll find loads of info in here, but never be afraid to ask, there is a wealth of knowledge and opinion on here, great camaradarie and very little p*ss taking!
Remember that you aren't stupid if you don't know the answer, but maybe if you don't ask!

I learnt on a Classic Inspiration, and to do the vision "upgrade" was another 2 day course. I suppose it is different if you learn on a Vision from the off. Looking at price differential though, you get a lot more for your buck going down the route of a classic "cast off", and getting proficient on that, and then making an informed choice about going for an upgrade to the vision electronics. There are folks on here that will advise to go to Hammerhead electronics, over the AP offerings, so I would say, get a cheap classic as a starter. But that's just my two penneth!
Cheers
Chris

Barrie Law · 30th August 2006, 15:34

Hi Steve,

You have come to the right place for CCR info and opinions from a broad range of different experiences.

There are currently several Inspiration Classics available in Dublin due to the imminent arrival of new Inspiration Visions.

If you can budget for a new Vision (about 8,000 euro)then go for it, otherwise consider a used Classic that would probably cost you between 3750 euro to 5000 euro.

There are a few things besides condition and age to check on a Classic that would effect the price and suitability:

1/ Back lit Handsets

2/ Harness and counter-lung size.

3/ APDiving ADV Fitted.

4/ Cells last replaced?

Give me a shout if you need any help 'checking out' a unit here in Ireland and beware of units that sometimes come up on Ebay, check it's not a scam before you buy.

Welcome to Rebreather World.

Regards

Mixaddict · 31st August 2006, 01:24

Having owned both a classic and a vison, I can say IMHO that the vision is superior in virtually everyway. I would never be interested in diving the classic again. If money is not an object, go for the vision. If you can't afford the vision, the classic is still superior to most other makes out there.

Just my .02

***EBT*** · 31st August 2006, 08:49

Hi Stephen.

Sounds like you're on the road to a Kato..... FWIW, I'd say second hand represents good value and Barrie's offer is worth taking up. At least this way you'll get first hand knowledge.

Oh and remember, opinions are like arseholes.... everyones got one

/Zak

megdiver12 · 31st August 2006, 12:28

Welcome

30th August 2006, 11:01	#1 (permalink)
smcmullan New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dun Laoghaire, Co. Dublin, Ireland Posts: 12	Hi from Dublin, Ireland Hi, I'm based in Dublin, Ireland. Been diving on and off since 1999 with about 130 dives under my belt (roughly 50:50 split between warm and cold water) e.g. Dublin bay, Kilkee, Islandmagee, Portacloy, Killary, Kilkieran Bay, Maharees, St. Johns Point, Inishbofin, Slieve League/Malinbeg, Saltees (all in Ireland) and abroad e.g. Mallorca, Cyprus, Lanzarote, Malta, Queensland GBR. I'm currently a member of the BSAC club - Dublin University Sub Aqua Club. PADI Rescue/BSAC Sports Diver and have done TDI Advanced Nitrox which lead me on to this lark. I'm just at the curious stage with respect to rebreathers. I've been reading this forum a bit and thinking about the choices ahead of me. There's some great info here about CCR vs OC and the practicalities, costs associated etc. I see there are quite a few APD Inspiration Classics coming up for sale. Some are brand new from just the beginning of this season. I guess the sellers are moving to Inspiration Visions (are they THAT good compared to the Classic?) but they must be losing $$$$ with the resale value. For a rebreather newbie is it worth picking up a relatively cheap second hand Classic or saving the bucks and going straight to Vision? Cheers, Stephen
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30th August 2006, 11:36	#2 (permalink)
Loneshark New Member Current Rebreather/s: Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other SCR Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hull East Yorks Posts: 58	Re: Hi from Dublin, Ireland [quote=smcmullan;64462] Hi, Welcome to Rebreather World! You'll find loads of info in here, but never be afraid to ask, there is a wealth of knowledge and opinion on here, great camaradarie and very little p*ss taking! Remember that you aren't stupid if you don't know the answer, but maybe if you don't ask! I learnt on a Classic Inspiration, and to do the vision "upgrade" was another 2 day course. I suppose it is different if you learn on a Vision from the off. Looking at price differential though, you get a lot more for your buck going down the route of a classic "cast off", and getting proficient on that, and then making an informed choice about going for an upgrade to the vision electronics. There are folks on here that will advise to go to Hammerhead electronics, over the AP offerings, so I would say, get a cheap classic as a starter. But that's just my two penneth! Cheers Chris __________________ www.lonesharkproductions.com
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30th August 2006, 15:34	#3 (permalink)
Barrie Law RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ireland Posts: 726	Re: Hi from Dublin, Ireland Hi Steve, You have come to the right place for CCR info and opinions from a broad range of different experiences. There are currently several Inspiration Classics available in Dublin due to the imminent arrival of new Inspiration Visions. If you can budget for a new Vision (about 8,000 euro)then go for it, otherwise consider a used Classic that would probably cost you between 3750 euro to 5000 euro. There are a few things besides condition and age to check on a Classic that would effect the price and suitability: 1/ Back lit Handsets 2/ Harness and counter-lung size. 3/ APDiving ADV Fitted. 4/ Cells last replaced? Give me a shout if you need any help 'checking out' a unit here in Ireland and beware of units that sometimes come up on Ebay, check it's not a scam before you buy. Welcome to Rebreather World. Regards __________________ Barrie Law Rebreather World Store Supplying the Rebreather World Tel:US +19548403892 Fax:US+19543333792 Tel:EU+442071930496 Fax:EU+442077606344 Mobile+353876880628 Skype:barrielaw Email: barrie@rebreatherworldstore.com
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31st August 2006, 01:24	#4 (permalink)
Mixaddict Always Learning! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Other CCR Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Dolphin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Draper, Utah USA Posts: 426	Re: Hi from Dublin, Ireland Having owned both a classic and a vison, I can say IMHO that the vision is superior in virtually everyway. I would never be interested in diving the classic again. If money is not an object, go for the vision. If you can't afford the vision, the classic is still superior to most other makes out there. Just my .02 __________________ Randy Thornton (MixAddict) Inspiration, Evolution,Hammerhead & Sentinel CCR Instructor
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31st August 2006, 08:49	#5 (permalink)
*EBT* Apprentice Luddite Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK, Brighton Posts: 1,855	Re: Hi from Dublin, Ireland Hi Stephen. Sounds like you're on the road to a Kato..... FWIW, I'd say second hand represents good value and Barrie's offer is worth taking up. At least this way you'll get first hand knowledge. Oh and remember, opinions are like arseholes.... everyones got one /Zak __________________ Eagles May Soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines! Rebreather World Terms of service Real diving t-shirts for real divers
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31st August 2006, 12:28	#6 (permalink)
megdiver12 New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Classic Kiss Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: minnesota Posts: 71	Re: Hi from Dublin, Ireland Welcome
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