Titanium Inspiration case

SINUS · 23rd May 2006, 06:55

Before you guys started to scream at the 'TITANBOX' pricing.You should take a good look on the Titanium sheets pricing .
>>>http://buy.titanium.com/cco_catalog/....cfm?cat=Sheet

Beside the material high costs it also require a high degree of skill to work on it as well as reguire special engineering equipment.

I think you guys ought to known these.

Cheers

wei Lan

divetheworld · 23rd May 2006, 07:22

Quote: (Originally Posted by SINUS)

Before you guys started to scream at the 'TITANBOX' pricing.You should take a good look on the Titanium sheets pricing .
>>>http://buy.titanium.com/cco_catalog/....cfm?cat=Sheet

Beside the material high costs it also require a high degree of skill to work on it as well as reguire special engineering equipment.

I think you guys ought to known these.

Cheers

wei Lan

If you want the best, you have to pay for it.

Bubble Boy · 23rd May 2006, 08:05

Or go for a stainless Jan box with holes to take all the standard fittings and drop some lead off your belt - $750 AUS finished with perspex lid.
Marine Grade stainelss through out except for the perspex cover. Just unbolt your inspo and bolt it back onto your new DTEK Chassis

not yet on the wbe page but contact DiveTek in Australia for further information.
www.divetekoz.com

or PM me btu it may take a couple of days to get back to you

**nigelh** · 23rd May 2006, 09:06

Quote: (Originally Posted by divetheworld)

If you want the best, you have to pay for it.

I'm too old to care about the price of things or I wouldn't be diving a rebreather or breathing helium. I definitely wouldn't be driving a Range Rover.

Although I'm not jumping up to put out that much money yet if I could see it removing some of the annoyances of the current setup I might well do it. At that price he won't be batch building them so there would be no problem having it MTM so to speak.

Does anybody have any idea what the standard case weighs? Swapping a few kilos of roughly neutral ABS for much denser metal looks like a bit lighter rig once the lead is integrated back in.

divetheworld · 23rd May 2006, 12:33

Quote: (Originally Posted by nigelh)

I'm too old to care about the price of things or I wouldn't be diving a rebreather or breathing helium. I definitely wouldn't be driving a Range Rover.

Although I'm not jumping up to put out that much money yet if I could see it removing some of the annoyances of the current setup I might well do it. At that price he won't be batch building them so there would be no problem having it MTM so to speak.

Does anybody have any idea what the standard case weighs? Swapping a few kilos of roughly neutral ABS for much denser metal looks like a bit lighter rig once the lead is integrated back in.

Bouyancy? Densities? Problem solving?
Nooooooo, you miss the point my dear friend.

Its the ultimate bling, its sex appeal. Women will flock round you and admire your box.

Which, I understand would be a good thing.

colinicky · 23rd May 2006, 15:28

Quote: (Originally Posted by nigelh)

Does anybody have any idea what the standard case weighs? Swapping a few kilos of roughly neutral ABS for much denser metal looks like a bit lighter rig once the lead is integrated back in.

Nigel
as a guide I have the Kent Tooling frame :- with original inspo vision I needed 9kg of lead + a duck dive to get down .with the KT frame it weighs 1.6 kgs more than the inspo case but I am down to 2 Kg of lead & still sink like a stone so will probably end up with no lead .Don't know if there is any difference weight wise between stainless & titanium due to density ??

***Beanie*** · 23rd May 2006, 15:36

Quote: (Originally Posted by colinicky)

Nigel
as a guide I have the Kent Tooling frame :- with original inspo vision I needed 9kg of lead + a duck dive to get down .with the KT frame it weighs 1.6 kgs more than the inspo case but I am down to 2 Kg of lead & still sink like a stone so will probably end up with no lead .Don't know if there is any difference weight wise between stainless & titanium due to density ??

9KG !!

I only have 3KG in the sea with the plastic shell, I'd need a super dooper lifty wing with a 5KG box!!

VTR · 23rd May 2006, 17:29

Quote: (Originally Posted by nigelh)

Does anybody have any idea what the standard case weighs?

On a set of quite old kitchen scales, the standard case weighs in at 7lb 14oz.

With regard to this particular case, personally, I'm not in awe of it, & at £970 is a bit on the steep side. But this is my opinion, & I understand if people don't agree with me.
I know Titanium costs a lot as I looked into making a frame from it last year & decided to give it a miss until those elusive lottery numbers materialise

Cheers

Giles

Mdemon · 23rd May 2006, 17:55

Quote: (Originally Posted by divetheworld)

Bouyancy? Densities? Problem solving?
Nooooooo, you miss the point my dear friend.

Its the ultimate bling, its sex appeal. Women will flock round you and admire your box.

Which, I understand would be a good thing.

Not quite ultimate. For full-on Bling, just add solid gold DSV lever...

**nigelh** · 23rd May 2006, 18:37

Quote: (Originally Posted by VTR)

On a set of quite old kitchen scales, the standard case weighs in at 7lb 14oz.

Thanks.
So 3.5Kgs of neutral swapped for 5.5Kgs with density of 4.5 so about 4.3Kg negative. That's two lumps of lead gone and some will be from the trim weight too. That makes the integrated weights rig over 2Kg lighter but the weightbelt configuration 2Kg heavier (although we might get that back moving trim weights to the belt.).

I'm still not completely convinced although it is very pretty. I see snags with the club's RIB, where I like to hand off as much weight as possible and then I'm the guy underneath pushing so I don't want them to drop it, and will that case slide nicely up the side or will it want to play cheese grater? Also I have concerns about attaching things.

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SINUS Rebreather Aficionado Current Rebreather/s: Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other SCR Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: 137km from equator Posts: 196	Re: Titanium Inspiration case Before you guys started to scream at the 'TITANBOX' pricing.You should take a good look on the Titanium sheets pricing . >>>http://buy.titanium.com/cco_catalog/....cfm?cat=Sheet Beside the material high costs it also require a high degree of skill to work on it as well as reguire special engineering equipment. I think you guys ought to known these. Cheers wei Lan __________________ "Silence Is Always Beautiful"
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23rd May 2006, 07:22	#22 (permalink)
divetheworld Dive porn pimp Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Classic Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Leeds, England Posts: 1,586	Re: Titanium Inspiration case Quote: (Originally Posted by SINUS) Before you guys started to scream at the 'TITANBOX' pricing.You should take a good look on the Titanium sheets pricing . >>>http://buy.titanium.com/cco_catalog/....cfm?cat=Sheet Beside the material high costs it also require a high degree of skill to work on it as well as reguire special engineering equipment. I think you guys ought to known these. Cheers wei Lan If you want the best, you have to pay for it. __________________ Attitude and self praise is no reccomendation. Dont try to be a great man, just be a man and let history be the judge of you. CHECK OUT OUR INTERWEBS FOR CUSTOM REBREATHER UPGRADES *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *http://www.grpservices.com/pursuit/* Supporting Shearwater Research Products in Europe
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23rd May 2006, 09:06	#24 (permalink)
nigelh New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brighton, Sussex, UK Posts: 838	Re: Titanium Inspiration case Quote: (Originally Posted by divetheworld) If you want the best, you have to pay for it. I'm too old to care about the price of things or I wouldn't be diving a rebreather or breathing helium. I definitely wouldn't be driving a Range Rover. Although I'm not jumping up to put out that much money yet if I could see it removing some of the annoyances of the current setup I might well do it. At that price he won't be batch building them so there would be no problem having it MTM so to speak. Does anybody have any idea what the standard case weighs? Swapping a few kilos of roughly neutral ABS for much denser metal looks like a bit lighter rig once the lead is integrated back in. __________________ nigelh
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divetheworld Dive porn pimp Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Classic Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Leeds, England Posts: 1,586	Re: Titanium Inspiration case Quote: (Originally Posted by nigelh) I'm too old to care about the price of things or I wouldn't be diving a rebreather or breathing helium. I definitely wouldn't be driving a Range Rover. Although I'm not jumping up to put out that much money yet if I could see it removing some of the annoyances of the current setup I might well do it. At that price he won't be batch building them so there would be no problem having it MTM so to speak. Does anybody have any idea what the standard case weighs? Swapping a few kilos of roughly neutral ABS for much denser metal looks like a bit lighter rig once the lead is integrated back in. Bouyancy? Densities? Problem solving? Nooooooo, you miss the point my dear friend. Its the ultimate bling, its sex appeal. Women will flock round you and admire your box. Which, I understand would be a good thing. __________________ Attitude and self praise is no reccomendation. Dont try to be a great man, just be a man and let history be the judge of you. CHECK OUT OUR INTERWEBS FOR CUSTOM REBREATHER UPGRADES *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *http://www.grpservices.com/pursuit/* Supporting Shearwater Research Products in Europe
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colinicky Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: uk Posts: 667	Re: Titanium Inspiration case Quote: (Originally Posted by nigelh) Does anybody have any idea what the standard case weighs? Swapping a few kilos of roughly neutral ABS for much denser metal looks like a bit lighter rig once the lead is integrated back in. Nigel as a guide I have the Kent Tooling frame :- with original inspo vision I needed 9kg of lead + a duck dive to get down .with the KT frame it weighs 1.6 kgs more than the inspo case but I am down to 2 Kg of lead & still sink like a stone so will probably end up with no lead .Don't know if there is any difference weight wise between stainless & titanium due to density ?? __________________ Colin I trust my rebreather completely , I just don't trust the user onwards & downwards
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23rd May 2006, 15:36	#27 (permalink)
*Beanie* give a man an inch....... Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,174	Re: Titanium Inspiration case Quote: (Originally Posted by colinicky) Nigel as a guide I have the Kent Tooling frame :- with original inspo vision I needed 9kg of lead + a duck dive to get down .with the KT frame it weighs 1.6 kgs more than the inspo case but I am down to 2 Kg of lead & still sink like a stone so will probably end up with no lead .Don't know if there is any difference weight wise between stainless & titanium due to density ?? 9KG !! I only have 3KG in the sea with the plastic shell, I'd need a super dooper lifty wing with a 5KG box!! __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk
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23rd May 2006, 17:29	#28 (permalink)
VTR New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Devon Posts: 39	Re: Titanium Inspiration case Quote: (Originally Posted by nigelh) Does anybody have any idea what the standard case weighs? On a set of quite old kitchen scales, the standard case weighs in at 7lb 14oz. With regard to this particular case, personally, I'm not in awe of it, & at £970 is a bit on the steep side. But this is my opinion, & I understand if people don't agree with me. I know Titanium costs a lot as I looked into making a frame from it last year & decided to give it a miss until those elusive lottery numbers materialise Cheers Giles
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nigelh New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brighton, Sussex, UK Posts: 838	Re: Titanium Inspiration case Quote: (Originally Posted by VTR) On a set of quite old kitchen scales, the standard case weighs in at 7lb 14oz. Thanks. So 3.5Kgs of neutral swapped for 5.5Kgs with density of 4.5 so about 4.3Kg negative. That's two lumps of lead gone and some will be from the trim weight too. That makes the integrated weights rig over 2Kg lighter but the weightbelt configuration 2Kg heavier (although we might get that back moving trim weights to the belt.). I'm still not completely convinced although it is very pretty. I see snags with the club's RIB, where I like to hand off as much weight as possible and then I'm the guy underneath pushing so I don't want them to drop it, and will that case slide nicely up the side or will it want to play cheese grater? Also I have concerns about attaching things. __________________ nigelh Last edited by nigelh : 23rd May 2006 at 18:41.
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