Newbe rebreather is a sailboat cruiser

dTheurer · 28th March 2006, 18:29

I am a PADI certified divemaster and have numerous different certs. I am Nitrox certified and have done a few nitrox dives. I also have two Nitrox computers. I have been looking at a few rebreather websites and am very interested in getting one when I am done doing this contract up here in Canada. My boat is located in Dana Point California. I see that the Megalodon is very popular with the cave divers but really see a lot of excitement on the new Evolution. My background is in nuclear power plant maintenance and redundant backup systems are the norm for important to safety systems. I don’t plan on becoming a full fledged cave diver because there are too many different types of diving for me to just focus on one. I do like the electronic controls and displays that the Evolution provides. I wouldn’t need to stay down for the duration times allowed by using the Megalodon. I do plan on doing some cruising on my sailboat and would probably carry several spare bottles for various dives. Do you guys have any insight into the best rebreather for a guy cruising around on a sailboat?

caver95 · 28th March 2006, 18:49

How big is the boat? I am looking for another boat, I dive a Meg. I plan on putting 2 sets of doubles, one for dil and O2 and a booster pump and a small compressor. I am looking for a 35 hunter if anyone out there knows of one.

Jordan · 28th March 2006, 19:47

Quote: (Originally Posted by caver95)

How big is the boat? I am looking for another boat, I dive a Meg. I plan on putting 2 sets of doubles, one for dil and O2 and a booster pump and a small compressor. I am looking for a 35 hunter if anyone out there knows of one.

and how in the sam hell are you going to afford that?!!!

caver95 · 28th March 2006, 22:32

Quote: (Originally Posted by Jordan)

and how in the sam hell are you going to afford that?!!!

easy, cindy is helping me out

db8us · 29th March 2006, 15:16

An RB80 is cool, it needs no battery, no fancy sensors or strange spareparts.
For bluewatercruising i like it, because you use premixed gases and also no specific tools or gimmicks while on the way.

Boat here is a Lagoon 380S2 catamaran

Michael

***caveseeker7*** · 29th March 2006, 20:14

Quote: (Originally Posted by db8us)

An RB80 is cool ... Boat here is a Lagoon 380S2 catamaran

Any monohull would capsize under your rig, Michael.

Nice ride, I fancy the new 440.

db8us · 30th March 2006, 06:38

Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7)

Any monohull would capsize under your rig, Michael.

Nice ride, I fancy the new 440.

Hi Stefan,

at the Paris Nautique salon i had a look into the Lagoon 440, it is just huuuuge, but i do not like the upper-level steering deck.
One of the big plus of a cat in my opinion s that you live and steer on "the same floor".
In Monohulls it is always like "going down into the basement"

So with the 440 it is hard to overlook the starboard aft section and also you have to climb stairs, i am too lazy for that

Currently there is is no compressor on the boat, but i have a 4-stroke Honda engine for my Bauer Oceanus

Michael

***caveseeker7*** · 30th March 2006, 08:27

Quote: (Originally Posted by db8us)

... i had a look into the Lagoon 440, it is just huuuuge

They're only huge at shows and docking ... once you're 20 miles offshore they all seem dinghy.

Quote:

In Monohulls it is always like "going down into the basement"

They unfortunately need to be large so you have some space and comfort.
Smallest day sailer I liked was 46 ft

and for anything more than day 56 ft ...

But those were quite nice.

Quote:

Currently there is is no compressor on the boat, but i have a 4-stroke Honda engine for my Bauer Oceanus

Is she yours? Hope you didn't name her DIC.

db8us · 30th March 2006, 12:10

Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7)

Is she yours? Hope you didn't name her DIC.

She is named after my Cat "Lino", so the name is "LinoCat" and origin "Mannheim"

Currently located in the Netherlands.

***caveseeker7*** · 30th March 2006, 18:31

Concatulations.

Quote: (Originally Posted by db8us)

She is named after my Cat "Lino", so the name is "LinoCat" and origin "Mannheim"

Has cats, dives a rebreather (well, on occasion

) ... sometimes you seem to be the most reasonable chap.

dTheurer, apologies for hijacking your thread. Just about any rebreather will work from a boat, CCRs probably get the nod due to having smaller tanks and being more gas efficient. As I asume you don't have a compressor onboard the smaller tanks will be easier to store. Another consideration will be the sorb, you'll have to refill the scrubber. That may give the O2ptima an edge as that process is very easy and considerably cleaner than granular absorbant. The cartridges are individually wrapped and canned and should be easy store as well. There are plenty of threads about the pros and cons, but for a small boat application in the US where they are fairly easily available they should be worth consideration.

Did I just say that?

28th March 2006, 18:29	#1 (permalink)
dTheurer New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dana Point, California Posts: 4	Newbe rebreather is a sailboat cruiser I am a PADI certified divemaster and have numerous different certs. I am Nitrox certified and have done a few nitrox dives. I also have two Nitrox computers. I have been looking at a few rebreather websites and am very interested in getting one when I am done doing this contract up here in Canada. My boat is located in Dana Point California. I see that the Megalodon is very popular with the cave divers but really see a lot of excitement on the new Evolution. My background is in nuclear power plant maintenance and redundant backup systems are the norm for important to safety systems. I don’t plan on becoming a full fledged cave diver because there are too many different types of diving for me to just focus on one. I do like the electronic controls and displays that the Evolution provides. I wouldn’t need to stay down for the duration times allowed by using the Megalodon. I do plan on doing some cruising on my sailboat and would probably carry several spare bottles for various dives. Do you guys have any insight into the best rebreather for a guy cruising around on a sailboat?
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28th March 2006, 18:49	#2 (permalink)
caver95 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Not Bought Yet Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: US Posts: 170	Re: Newbe rebreather is a sailboat cruiser How big is the boat? I am looking for another boat, I dive a Meg. I plan on putting 2 sets of doubles, one for dil and O2 and a booster pump and a small compressor. I am looking for a 35 hunter if anyone out there knows of one. __________________ www.cavetek.com
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28th March 2006, 19:47	#3 (permalink)
Jordan Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: North Florida Posts: 219	Re: Newbe rebreather is a sailboat cruiser Quote: (Originally Posted by caver95) How big is the boat? I am looking for another boat, I dive a Meg. I plan on putting 2 sets of doubles, one for dil and O2 and a booster pump and a small compressor. I am looking for a 35 hunter if anyone out there knows of one. and how in the sam hell are you going to afford that?!!! __________________ Is it clear? No. Well, let's go anyways. "Those who would sacrifice a little freedom for a little order, will lose both, and deserve neither." Thomas Jefferson
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28th March 2006, 22:32	#4 (permalink)
caver95 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Not Bought Yet Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: US Posts: 170	Re: Newbe rebreather is a sailboat cruiser Quote: (Originally Posted by Jordan) and how in the sam hell are you going to afford that?!!! easy, cindy is helping me out __________________ www.cavetek.com
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29th March 2006, 15:16	#5 (permalink)
db8us Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other SCR Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 223	Re: Newbe rebreather is a sailboat cruiser An RB80 is cool, it needs no battery, no fancy sensors or strange spareparts. For bluewatercruising i like it, because you use premixed gases and also no specific tools or gimmicks while on the way. Boat here is a Lagoon 380S2 catamaran Michael Last edited by db8us : 29th March 2006 at 15:18.
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29th March 2006, 20:14	#6 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,281	Re: Newbe rebreather is a sailboat cruiser Quote: (Originally Posted by db8us) An RB80 is cool ... Boat here is a Lagoon 380S2 catamaran Any monohull would capsize under your rig, Michael. Nice ride, I fancy the new 440. __________________ Cheers Stefan Be Water, My Friend - Bruce Lee Sponsor Lou in Race For Life!
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30th March 2006, 06:38	#7 (permalink)
db8us Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other SCR Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 223	Re: Newbe rebreather is a sailboat cruiser Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7) Any monohull would capsize under your rig, Michael. Nice ride, I fancy the new 440. Hi Stefan, at the Paris Nautique salon i had a look into the Lagoon 440, it is just huuuuge, but i do not like the upper-level steering deck. One of the big plus of a cat in my opinion s that you live and steer on "the same floor". In Monohulls it is always like "going down into the basement" So with the 440 it is hard to overlook the starboard aft section and also you have to climb stairs, i am too lazy for that Currently there is is no compressor on the boat, but i have a 4-stroke Honda engine for my Bauer Oceanus Michael
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30th March 2006, 08:27	#8 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,281	Re: Newbe rebreather is a sailboat cruiser Quote: (Originally Posted by db8us) ... i had a look into the Lagoon 440, it is just huuuuge They're only huge at shows and docking ... once you're 20 miles offshore they all seem dinghy. Quote: In Monohulls it is always like "going down into the basement" They unfortunately need to be large so you have some space and comfort. Smallest day sailer I liked was 46 ft and for anything more than day 56 ft ... But those were quite nice. Quote: Currently there is is no compressor on the boat, but i have a 4-stroke Honda engine for my Bauer Oceanus Is she yours? Hope you didn't name her DIC. __________________ Cheers Stefan Be Water, My Friend - Bruce Lee Sponsor Lou in Race For Life! Last edited by caveseeker7 : 30th March 2006 at 08:29.
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30th March 2006, 12:10	#9 (permalink)
db8us Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other SCR Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 223	Re: Newbe rebreather is a sailboat cruiser Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7) Is she yours? Hope you didn't name her DIC. She is named after my Cat "Lino", so the name is "LinoCat" and origin "Mannheim" Currently located in the Netherlands.
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30th March 2006, 18:31	#10 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,281	Re: Newbe rebreather is a sailboat cruiser Concatulations. Quote: (Originally Posted by db8us) She is named after my Cat "Lino", so the name is "LinoCat" and origin "Mannheim" Has cats, dives a rebreather (well, on occasion ) ... sometimes you seem to be the most reasonable chap. dTheurer, apologies for hijacking your thread. Just about any rebreather will work from a boat, CCRs probably get the nod due to having smaller tanks and being more gas efficient. As I asume you don't have a compressor onboard the smaller tanks will be easier to store. Another consideration will be the sorb, you'll have to refill the scrubber. That may give the O2ptima an edge as that process is very easy and considerably cleaner than granular absorbant. The cartridges are individually wrapped and canned and should be easy store as well. There are plenty of threads about the pros and cons, but for a small boat application in the US where they are fairly easily available they should be worth consideration. Did I just say that? __________________ Cheers Stefan Be Water, My Friend - Bruce Lee Sponsor Lou in Race For Life!
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