mark mckee

markmckee · 14th February 2006, 19:25

Hi Guys
Using 7 litre fabers on classic Kiss,thinking of changeing to 2x3litres.Do I go for steel or alloy?
mark

Nick uk. · 14th February 2006, 23:22

Quote: (Originally Posted by markmckee)

Hi Guys
Using 7 litre fabers on classic Kiss,thinking of changeing to 2x3litres.Do I go for steel or alloy?
mark

I'd of thought deffinately steel, alluminium are going to be too bouyant, i assume you dive 'dry'!!

Graham · 16th February 2006, 14:46

Whoa there Mark, or as they say over there, wise up big lad!

Wait till I see you in June and have a chance to set up your KISS properly :-)

If I were you, I would go for the Luxfer 1.5lt alloy - godive 45gbp each I think without valve or 59 gbp with, or diving niknaks have them listed slightly cheaper, but seem out of stock.

Those 1.5lt roughly correspond to the recommended 13cu ft AL cylinders that are really nice on the Classic.

See you in June, and if you need any more advice let me know, ha ha.

By the way, over here in the frozen north, aka Canada, we all dive dry, and anybody I know who dives a KISS here, use Aluminium tanks. Even low pressure 14's.

Nick uk. · 16th February 2006, 15:05

Wouldn't steel tanks take some lead off your waist, and help with trim?

mikedive · 17th February 2006, 01:43

Hey Mark,

I've two sets, the Al set is 13 cf and I like this set for travel if I need take my own tanks with me and for fresh water dive. I use 2 ltrs. steel Faber for salt water.
Cheers,

Mike - www.protecdiving.com

***EBT*** · 17th February 2006, 09:13

Theres a few of us running the 3L dumpies from worthington/heiser. These fit nicely and reduce additional lead.

**RichClark** · 17th February 2006, 10:17

Quote: (Originally Posted by EBT)

Theres a few of us running the 3L dumpies from worthington/heiser. These fit nicely and reduce additional lead.

Yep, I've just bought a couple of these for my KISS.

Cheers

Graham · 17th February 2006, 20:07

With a membrane suit and layered underwear, a titanium travel backplate (just under 2lbs neg), I only need a 10lb P weight with Luxfer AL 13's which are neg.

If I could find a manufacturer who would make me a long form heavy BP, I could do away with the P weight altogether.

Which brings up another question, I have only dived the Classic in fresh water, and I have a trip home to the UK planned for June. I know salt is 3% more buoyant than fresh, but is there an easier way to work out how much extra weight I will need?

Nick uk. · 17th February 2006, 20:38

Quote: (Originally Posted by Graham)

With a membrane suit and layered underwear, a titanium travel backplate (just under 2lbs neg), I only need a 10lb P weight with Luxfer AL 13's which are neg.

If I could find a manufacturer who would make me a long form heavy BP, I could do away with the P weight altogether.

Which brings up another question, I have only dived the Classic in fresh water, and I have a trip home to the UK planned for June. I know salt is 3% more buoyant than fresh, but is there an easier way to work out how much extra weight I will need?

I normally just add 1kg. (2Lb)

14th February 2006, 19:25	#1 (permalink)
markmckee New Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ireland Posts: 4	mark mckee Hi Guys Using 7 litre fabers on classic Kiss,thinking of changeing to 2x3litres.Do I go for steel or alloy? mark
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14th February 2006, 23:22	#2 (permalink)
Nick uk. Made in England. Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Azimuth Other Rebreather/s: Azimuth Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Viale C.Colombo 75 Marina di Carrara. MS 54036 Italy Posts: 575	Re: mark mckee Quote: (Originally Posted by markmckee) Hi Guys Using 7 litre fabers on classic Kiss,thinking of changeing to 2x3litres.Do I go for steel or alloy? mark I'd of thought deffinately steel, alluminium are going to be too bouyant, i assume you dive 'dry'!! __________________ If it aint broke....don't fix it, and if it is.............well......get another one! divechief2000@hotmail.com
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16th February 2006, 14:46	#3 (permalink)
Graham New Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 38	Re: mark mckee Whoa there Mark, or as they say over there, wise up big lad! Wait till I see you in June and have a chance to set up your KISS properly :-) If I were you, I would go for the Luxfer 1.5lt alloy - godive 45gbp each I think without valve or 59 gbp with, or diving niknaks have them listed slightly cheaper, but seem out of stock. Those 1.5lt roughly correspond to the recommended 13cu ft AL cylinders that are really nice on the Classic. See you in June, and if you need any more advice let me know, ha ha. By the way, over here in the frozen north, aka Canada, we all dive dry, and anybody I know who dives a KISS here, use Aluminium tanks. Even low pressure 14's. __________________ Graham "Especially insidious are the rebreather pushers, who offer the desperate techdiver the diving equivalent of a cure for AIDS, but like the elixir salesmen of the wild west will leave death and destruction in their wake... If people really understood these devices, they would run screaming from the room, and would certainly not take instruction on so sophisticated a device from someone with no engineering or technical background..." Uncle George - Deeptech 1995
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16th February 2006, 15:05	#4 (permalink)
Nick uk. Made in England. Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Azimuth Other Rebreather/s: Azimuth Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Viale C.Colombo 75 Marina di Carrara. MS 54036 Italy Posts: 575	Re: mark mckee Wouldn't steel tanks take some lead off your waist, and help with trim? __________________ If it aint broke....don't fix it, and if it is.............well......get another one! divechief2000@hotmail.com
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17th February 2006, 01:43	#5 (permalink)
mikedive Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Optima Other CCR Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Brazil, Texas and Mexico Posts: 330	Re: mark mckee Hey Mark, I've two sets, the Al set is 13 cf and I like this set for travel if I need take my own tanks with me and for fresh water dive. I use 2 ltrs. steel Faber for salt water. Cheers, Mike - www.protecdiving.com
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17th February 2006, 09:13	#6 (permalink)
*EBT* Apprentice Luddite Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK, Brighton Posts: 1,971	Re: mark mckee Theres a few of us running the 3L dumpies from worthington/heiser. These fit nicely and reduce additional lead. __________________ Eagles May Soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines! Rebreather World Terms of service Real diving t-shirts for real divers
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17th February 2006, 10:17	#7 (permalink)
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17th February 2006, 20:07	#8 (permalink)
Graham New Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 38	Re: mark mckee With a membrane suit and layered underwear, a titanium travel backplate (just under 2lbs neg), I only need a 10lb P weight with Luxfer AL 13's which are neg. If I could find a manufacturer who would make me a long form heavy BP, I could do away with the P weight altogether. Which brings up another question, I have only dived the Classic in fresh water, and I have a trip home to the UK planned for June. I know salt is 3% more buoyant than fresh, but is there an easier way to work out how much extra weight I will need? __________________ Graham "Especially insidious are the rebreather pushers, who offer the desperate techdiver the diving equivalent of a cure for AIDS, but like the elixir salesmen of the wild west will leave death and destruction in their wake... If people really understood these devices, they would run screaming from the room, and would certainly not take instruction on so sophisticated a device from someone with no engineering or technical background..." Uncle George - Deeptech 1995
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17th February 2006, 20:38	#9 (permalink)
Nick uk. Made in England. Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Azimuth Other Rebreather/s: Azimuth Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Viale C.Colombo 75 Marina di Carrara. MS 54036 Italy Posts: 575	Re: mark mckee Quote: (Originally Posted by Graham) With a membrane suit and layered underwear, a titanium travel backplate (just under 2lbs neg), I only need a 10lb P weight with Luxfer AL 13's which are neg. If I could find a manufacturer who would make me a long form heavy BP, I could do away with the P weight altogether. Which brings up another question, I have only dived the Classic in fresh water, and I have a trip home to the UK planned for June. I know salt is 3% more buoyant than fresh, but is there an easier way to work out how much extra weight I will need? I normally just add 1kg. (2Lb) __________________ If it aint broke....don't fix it, and if it is.............well......get another one! divechief2000@hotmail.com
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