Hey all!

onetime · 25th March 2005, 12:04

Just figured I'd do the intro thing. Very interesting site you've got going here. I'm a newbie Rebreather diver (summer 2004) diving a Classic KISS. I'm in Northern NJ, USA and loving RB diving. Certified through IANTD and like most already making mods on my kit. Mostly got into RB's because I was sick of lugging a bunch of bottles around and, probably like most here, believe RB's are the future of diving.

For those interested, here are some pics of a frame I had fabricated for my KISS...

http://www.allenhost.com/gallery/KISS-Mods

--Paul

***caveseeker7*** · 25th March 2005, 12:30

Hi Paul,

welcome to Rebreather World, good of you to join us here.

Out of curiosity, why did you modify your KISS' frame?

Cheers

onetime · 25th March 2005, 13:44

Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7)

Hi Paul,

welcome to Rebreather World, good of you to join us here.

Out of curiosity, why did you modify your KISS' frame?

Cheers

Thanks. There were several reasons actually

The first was a desire to get the canister closer to my back. The new frame brings it about 1" closer to me by eliminating the stock aluminum frame. This changes the center of gravity and makes me feel more integrated with the unit.

Second was to allow for easier absorbent swaps. The typical frame doesn't allow the unit to be free standing when the canister is removed.

Third was a desire to eliminate some stuff that I felt was a little unnecessary. By switching to a valves up configuration and switching the O2 from right to left I eliminated the manifold, a stainless steel hose, and a couple of Swagelock connectors that came stock with the unit.

Fourth was a desire to mount different size bottles. The stock frame just didn't seem sturdy enough to back mount bailout. There is a pretty good chance I'll be taking the unit into caves and I'd like to have the option of back mounting rather than bail out hung as stage bottles (not sure that I'll like it back mounted but want to have the option).

Fifth was a need to add another bottle for inflation gas. I know I could have gone the argon bottle type mount but kind of prefer the horizontal mounting under the unit that this frame allows.

Sixth was to add a little weight since I dive dry 99% of the time. Yeah, yeah I know one of the greatest things about RBs is the weight savings but, to tell you the truth, the weight of big doubles never really bothered me. Switching to an Rebreather was more about the logistics of using OC in a bunch of the diving I do than it was about weight.

There were a few other reasons involved but were minor enough that I can't recall them right now.

***caveseeker7*** · 25th March 2005, 17:54

That's the most comprehensive answer I've gotten in a while, thanks.
Good reasoning, too, went back to your pictures and looked through
them again. Nice when it all comes together.

ROB DAVIE · 26th March 2005, 01:35

Hey Onetime,

Welcome to our new home. Stuart has created a really great "nest" for all of us re-breather creatures! Glad to see you over here, and again, welcome!

Rob Davie

DoubleTop · 26th March 2005, 10:00

Nice to see your rig Onetime, shows a lot of thought has gone into those mods with your reply

DT.

25th March 2005, 12:04	#1 (permalink)
onetime Classic KISSer #138 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: US, NJ Posts: 652	Hey all! Just figured I'd do the intro thing. Very interesting site you've got going here. I'm a newbie Rebreather diver (summer 2004) diving a Classic KISS. I'm in Northern NJ, USA and loving RB diving. Certified through IANTD and like most already making mods on my kit. Mostly got into RB's because I was sick of lugging a bunch of bottles around and, probably like most here, believe RB's are the future of diving. For those interested, here are some pics of a frame I had fabricated for my KISS... http://www.allenhost.com/gallery/KISS-Mods --Paul
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25th March 2005, 12:30	#2 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,287	Hi Paul, welcome to Rebreather World, good of you to join us here. Out of curiosity, why did you modify your KISS' frame? Cheers __________________ Cheers Stefan Be Water, My Friend - Bruce Lee Sponsor Lou in Race For Life!
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25th March 2005, 13:44	#3 (permalink)
onetime Classic KISSer #138 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: US, NJ Posts: 652	Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7) Hi Paul, welcome to Rebreather World, good of you to join us here. Out of curiosity, why did you modify your KISS' frame? Cheers Thanks. There were several reasons actually The first was a desire to get the canister closer to my back. The new frame brings it about 1" closer to me by eliminating the stock aluminum frame. This changes the center of gravity and makes me feel more integrated with the unit. Second was to allow for easier absorbent swaps. The typical frame doesn't allow the unit to be free standing when the canister is removed. Third was a desire to eliminate some stuff that I felt was a little unnecessary. By switching to a valves up configuration and switching the O2 from right to left I eliminated the manifold, a stainless steel hose, and a couple of Swagelock connectors that came stock with the unit. Fourth was a desire to mount different size bottles. The stock frame just didn't seem sturdy enough to back mount bailout. There is a pretty good chance I'll be taking the unit into caves and I'd like to have the option of back mounting rather than bail out hung as stage bottles (not sure that I'll like it back mounted but want to have the option). Fifth was a need to add another bottle for inflation gas. I know I could have gone the argon bottle type mount but kind of prefer the horizontal mounting under the unit that this frame allows. Sixth was to add a little weight since I dive dry 99% of the time. Yeah, yeah I know one of the greatest things about RBs is the weight savings but, to tell you the truth, the weight of big doubles never really bothered me. Switching to an Rebreather was more about the logistics of using OC in a bunch of the diving I do than it was about weight. There were a few other reasons involved but were minor enough that I can't recall them right now.
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25th March 2005, 17:54	#4 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,287	That's the most comprehensive answer I've gotten in a while, thanks. Good reasoning, too, went back to your pictures and looked through them again. Nice when it all comes together. __________________ Cheers Stefan Be Water, My Friend - Bruce Lee Sponsor Lou in Race For Life!
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26th March 2005, 01:35	#5 (permalink)
ROB DAVIE Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: HOUSTON, REPUBLIC OF TEJAS Posts: 1,120	Welcome!! Hey Onetime, Welcome to our new home. Stuart has created a really great "nest" for all of us re-breather creatures! Glad to see you over here, and again, welcome! Rob Davie __________________ [SIZE=2]"CC Rebreathers will become a viable part of tech diving [U]WHEN PIGS FLY[/U]!!"--GI3[/SIZE]
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26th March 2005, 10:00	#6 (permalink)
DoubleTop Rebreather World Greeter and How do I? Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Reading, Berks, UK Posts: 145	Nice to see your rig Onetime, shows a lot of thought has gone into those mods with your reply DT.
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