Megaladon Versus Optima Fx

mverick · 20th January 2008, 15:41

Quote: (Originally Posted by Pelagian)

The way I see it the cells are sealed from the exhaust side so they'd only be on the inhalation side of the loop, just downstream from the scrubber.

Am I missing something here. It seems small, but could be a major misunderstanding for me in the way my Meg is built.

Cheers

Seb

THere have been cases of the O2 sensors breaking apart. So, it falls apart and you have an open hole from the Inhale to Exhale side. Which, Is BAD. The BODY of your O2 cell is on the Exhale side. With the O2 cells sensor hole on the inhale side. Which is a design flaw. Should be on one side or the other.

Do a search for more info. It's all laid out and my internet connection is slow.... LOL...

**jiseson** · 20th January 2008, 17:10

O2ptima major safety plus is that it never has a channeling issue re sorb packing, boat trip, car trip bumps.... so u take a problem out of contention-to makes makes a strong +++ for it.

CCR-Wrecker · 20th January 2008, 17:16

Meg vs. Optima is like Ford vs. Chevy

No comparison xxx is far superior to yyy!!! and you don't know what the fletch your talking about if you disagree!!!

If you bought a Meg then we pretty much know your opinion, same if you got an Optima. You'll probably not change someones mind from one to another in cyberspace, so chill out......feel free to extoll the virtues of your PERSONAL preference and respect someone elses.

Just to stir the pot...anyone own both? or anyone have both and sell one? which one to keep????

Regards,
Andy

Dsix36 · 20th January 2008, 17:22

Mel Clark has both.

here is my thought on this debate:

I know, I know, it is not politically correct.

**jiseson** · 20th January 2008, 17:26

Quote: (Originally Posted by CCR-Wrecker)

Meg vs. Optima is like Ford vs. Chevy

No comparison xxx is far superior to yyy!!! and you don't know what the fletch your talking about if you disagree!!!

If you bought a Meg then we pretty much know your opinion, same if you got an Optima. You'll probably not change someones mind from one to another in cyberspace, so chill out......feel free to extoll the virtues of your PERSONAL preference and respect someone elses.

Just to stir the pot...anyone own both? or anyone have both and sell one? which one to keep????

Regards,
Andy

could u have said maybe ferrari vs lambo?

sensor330 · 20th January 2008, 17:30

The EAC cartridge has been tested and from the data I've seen is only good for about two hours that's is that's all. If anybody disputes this I would like to see a recognized official report of the EAC cart, and then I will be a believer. Now if individuals want to take them out and test them themselves and then tell the masses that they are good for 3,4,5,6,7, and 8 hours that's there prerogative. IMO its a disaster waiting to happen. The bottom line is if you like them you like them if you don't you don't. I personally like using granular sorb for a lot of reasons.

1. The cost per/lbs is cheaper than EAC
2. Its some what common, so finding it at your destination isn't a problem
3. Various manufacturers of sorb
4. Its good for 3 hours with my axial scrubber and a lot longer in my in my ISC radial. We need test data for recommended usage though.

Scott

mverick · 20th January 2008, 17:41

But,
I have yet to hear a Optima owner posting on his bad experiences with his unit. So, they must all be perfect. LOL... Some have had to have the Handsets changed out 2 or 3 times.

They make the negatives reported by others sound OK. LOL....

I'm pretty sure my negatives on the Meg weren't reported that way.

Oh, I also think ISC should redesign the Sensor carriage and replace every one. But, I'm still diving it. It is a problem. With an easy fix.

Anybody with an Optima up to the task? LOL...

Quote: (Originally Posted by CCR-Wrecker)

Meg vs. Optima is like Ford vs. Chevy

No comparison xxx is far superior to yyy!!! and you don't know what the fletch your talking about if you disagree!!!

If you bought a Meg then we pretty much know your opinion, same if you got an Optima. You'll probably not change someones mind from one to another in cyberspace, so chill out......feel free to extoll the virtues of your PERSONAL preference and respect someone elses.

Just to stir the pot...anyone own both? or anyone have both and sell one? which one to keep????

Regards,
Andy

**jiseson** · 20th January 2008, 17:52

Quote: (Originally Posted by sensor330)

The EAC cartridge has been tested and from the data I've seen is only good for about two hours that's is that's all. If anybody disputes this I would like to see a recognized official report of the EAC cart, and then I will be a believer. Now if individuals want to take them out and test them themselves and then tell the masses that they are good for 3,4,5,6,7, and 8 hours that's there prerogative. IMO its a disaster waiting to happen. The bottom line is if you like them you like them if you don't you don't. I personally like using granular sorb for a lot of reasons.

1. The cost per/lbs is cheaper than EAC
2. Its some what common, so finding it at your destination isn't a problem
3. Various manufacturers of sorb
4. Its good for 3 hours with my axial scrubber and a lot longer in my in my ISC radial. We need test data for recommended usage though.

Scott

4 hrs!

diverklondike · 20th January 2008, 17:53

Quote: (Originally Posted by CCR-Wrecker)

Meg vs. Optima is like Ford vs. Chevy

No comparison xxx is far superior to yyy!!! and you don't know what the fletch your talking about if you disagree!!!

If you bought a Meg then we pretty much know your opinion, same if you got an Optima. You'll probably not change someones mind from one to another in cyberspace, so chill out......feel free to extoll the virtues of your PERSONAL preference and respect someone elses.

Just to stir the pot...anyone own both? or anyone have both and sell one? which one to keep????

Regards,
Andy

Well... This is not to stir the pot but it may...

There are quite a few HammerMegs out there and the number of them continues to rise. For that matter there have been quite a few people that have gone out and bought new COPIS Meg's only to have HH electronics put on them before they ever get wet... With that it seems that there are lots of good things in both the Meg and Optima and people are looking to combine them. hmmmmmmm

Dive Safe...

Mark

sensor330 · 20th January 2008, 18:01

Quote: (Originally Posted by jiseson)

4 hrs!

Do you know where that data comes from?

20th January 2008, 15:41	#51 (permalink)
mverick ScubaPimp Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 558	Re: Megaladon Versus Optima Fx Quote: (Originally Posted by Pelagian) The way I see it the cells are sealed from the exhaust side so they'd only be on the inhalation side of the loop, just downstream from the scrubber. Am I missing something here. It seems small, but could be a major misunderstanding for me in the way my Meg is built. Cheers Seb THere have been cases of the O2 sensors breaking apart. So, it falls apart and you have an open hole from the Inhale to Exhale side. Which, Is BAD. The BODY of your O2 cell is on the Exhale side. With the O2 cells sensor hole on the inhale side. Which is a design flaw. Should be on one side or the other. Do a search for more info. It's all laid out and my internet connection is slow.... LOL...
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20th January 2008, 17:10	#52 (permalink)
jiseson DSIX/O2PTIMA Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: long island,ny Posts: 643	Re: Megaladon Versus Optima Fx O2ptima major safety plus is that it never has a channeling issue re sorb packing, boat trip, car trip bumps.... so u take a problem out of contention-to makes makes a strong +++ for it. __________________ *Jonathan D Iseson*
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20th January 2008, 17:16	#53 (permalink)
CCR-Wrecker aka NY-Andy Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New York Posts: 228	Re: Megaladon Versus Optima Fx Meg vs. Optima is like Ford vs. Chevy No comparison xxx is far superior to yyy!!! and you don't know what the fletch your talking about if you disagree!!! If you bought a Meg then we pretty much know your opinion, same if you got an Optima. You'll probably not change someones mind from one to another in cyberspace, so chill out......feel free to extoll the virtues of your PERSONAL preference and respect someone elses. Just to stir the pot...anyone own both? or anyone have both and sell one? which one to keep???? Regards, Andy __________________ "I know what you'll find, it's in your mind, it's what you want to see..." Ozzy
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20th January 2008, 17:22	#54 (permalink)
Dsix36 Going Down? Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Deerfield Beach, Florida Posts: 1,154	Re: Megaladon Versus Optima Fx Mel Clark has both. here is my thought on this debate: I know, I know, it is not politically correct. __________________ THE MORE THAT I LEARN, THE MORE THAT I STILL NEED TO LEARN!!!!!!
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20th January 2008, 17:26	#55 (permalink)
jiseson DSIX/O2PTIMA Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: long island,ny Posts: 643	Re: Megaladon Versus Optima Fx Quote: (Originally Posted by CCR-Wrecker) Meg vs. Optima is like Ford vs. Chevy No comparison xxx is far superior to yyy!!! and you don't know what the fletch your talking about if you disagree!!! If you bought a Meg then we pretty much know your opinion, same if you got an Optima. You'll probably not change someones mind from one to another in cyberspace, so chill out......feel free to extoll the virtues of your PERSONAL preference and respect someone elses. Just to stir the pot...anyone own both? or anyone have both and sell one? which one to keep???? Regards, Andy could u have said maybe ferrari vs lambo? __________________ *Jonathan D Iseson*
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20th January 2008, 17:30	#56 (permalink)
sensor330 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 594	Re: Megaladon Versus Optima Fx The EAC cartridge has been tested and from the data I've seen is only good for about two hours that's is that's all. If anybody disputes this I would like to see a recognized official report of the EAC cart, and then I will be a believer. Now if individuals want to take them out and test them themselves and then tell the masses that they are good for 3,4,5,6,7, and 8 hours that's there prerogative. IMO its a disaster waiting to happen. The bottom line is if you like them you like them if you don't you don't. I personally like using granular sorb for a lot of reasons. 1. The cost per/lbs is cheaper than EAC 2. Its some what common, so finding it at your destination isn't a problem 3. Various manufacturers of sorb 4. Its good for 3 hours with my axial scrubber and a lot longer in my in my ISC radial. We need test data for recommended usage though. Scott
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20th January 2008, 17:41	#57 (permalink)
mverick ScubaPimp Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 558	Re: Megaladon Versus Optima Fx But, I have yet to hear a Optima owner posting on his bad experiences with his unit. So, they must all be perfect. LOL... Some have had to have the Handsets changed out 2 or 3 times. They make the negatives reported by others sound OK. LOL.... I'm pretty sure my negatives on the Meg weren't reported that way. Oh, I also think ISC should redesign the Sensor carriage and replace every one. But, I'm still diving it. It is a problem. With an easy fix. Anybody with an Optima up to the task? LOL... Quote: (Originally Posted by CCR-Wrecker) Meg vs. Optima is like Ford vs. Chevy No comparison xxx is far superior to yyy!!! and you don't know what the fletch your talking about if you disagree!!! If you bought a Meg then we pretty much know your opinion, same if you got an Optima. You'll probably not change someones mind from one to another in cyberspace, so chill out......feel free to extoll the virtues of your PERSONAL preference and respect someone elses. Just to stir the pot...anyone own both? or anyone have both and sell one? which one to keep???? Regards, Andy
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20th January 2008, 17:52	#58 (permalink)
jiseson DSIX/O2PTIMA Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: long island,ny Posts: 643	Re: Megaladon Versus Optima Fx Quote: (Originally Posted by sensor330) The EAC cartridge has been tested and from the data I've seen is only good for about two hours that's is that's all. If anybody disputes this I would like to see a recognized official report of the EAC cart, and then I will be a believer. Now if individuals want to take them out and test them themselves and then tell the masses that they are good for 3,4,5,6,7, and 8 hours that's there prerogative. IMO its a disaster waiting to happen. The bottom line is if you like them you like them if you don't you don't. I personally like using granular sorb for a lot of reasons. 1. The cost per/lbs is cheaper than EAC 2. Its some what common, so finding it at your destination isn't a problem 3. Various manufacturers of sorb 4. Its good for 3 hours with my axial scrubber and a lot longer in my in my ISC radial. We need test data for recommended usage though. Scott 4 hrs! __________________ *Jonathan D Iseson*
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20th January 2008, 17:53	#59 (permalink)
diverklondike RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,714	Re: Megaladon Versus Optima Fx Quote: (Originally Posted by CCR-Wrecker) Meg vs. Optima is like Ford vs. Chevy No comparison xxx is far superior to yyy!!! and you don't know what the fletch your talking about if you disagree!!! If you bought a Meg then we pretty much know your opinion, same if you got an Optima. You'll probably not change someones mind from one to another in cyberspace, so chill out......feel free to extoll the virtues of your PERSONAL preference and respect someone elses. Just to stir the pot...anyone own both? or anyone have both and sell one? which one to keep???? Regards, Andy Well... This is not to stir the pot but it may... There are quite a few HammerMegs out there and the number of them continues to rise. For that matter there have been quite a few people that have gone out and bought new COPIS Meg's only to have HH electronics put on them before they ever get wet... With that it seems that there are lots of good things in both the Meg and Optima and people are looking to combine them. hmmmmmmm Dive Safe... Mark
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20th January 2008, 18:01	#60 (permalink)
sensor330 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 594	Re: Megaladon Versus Optima Fx Quote: (Originally Posted by jiseson) 4 hrs! Do you know where that data comes from?
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