Megaladon Versus Optima Fx

**jiseson** · 26th January 2008, 00:29

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dsix36)

I am just saying this - enough about the scrubber, lets get to the many other reasons that an Optima is superior.

About the vibrating HUD - It is not nearly as noticeable at depth - not that I would have any experience with not monitoring for this to happen

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OK, maybe once

Optima owners tend to be better looking folk i noticed too!

Dsix36 · 26th January 2008, 00:45

Quote: (Originally Posted by jiseson)

Optima owners tend to be better looking folk i noticed too!

That is just soooo obvious that I didn't think it needed to be mentioned

brandonmc · 26th January 2008, 00:47

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dsix36)

lets get to the many other reasons that an Optima is superior.

Ok, well while you are typing that up...

I didnt read through all this thread so if this is repetitious, may the internet gods be forgiving...

Taking the scrubber out of the equation... There are things I like about the Optima and things I like about the Meg. Let me try and summarize for the OG poster:

Things I don't like about the Optima: the bulky case, the frame/structural design, the ADV, the general build quality of it

Things I like about the Optima: the electronics, the service (from what I hear)

Things I like about the Meg: modularity (tanks, scrubber, etc), better ADV (than Optima), general build quality, service, relatively low profile, the electronics

Really the only thing I dont like about the Meg is that you have to take the head off to turn on/off the unit.

On the fence about: Meg does not have integrated deco, I think this has its pluses and minuses but thats a whole other thread.

FWIW both units use generally easy to get parts which simplifies things over a unit like the Inspiration/Evolution

Tienuts · 26th January 2008, 01:02

Quote: (Originally Posted by brandonmc)

Things I don't like about the Optima: the bulky case, the frame/structural design, the ADV, the general build quality of it

Now this is not a troll or start of another argument (I hope.) I hear this a lot from Meg divers, and I am genuinely curious why the ADV is so much better. I just stocked 3 of them on the shelves today, It deosn't seem to be built any better.

brandonmc · 26th January 2008, 01:11

Quote: (Originally Posted by Tienuts)

Now this is not a troll or start of another argument (I hope.) I hear this a lot from Meg divers, and I am genuinely curious why the ADV is so much better. I just stocked 3 of them on the shelves today, It deosn't seem to be built any better.

The Optima's has a higher profile than the Meg's, it is harder to reach (at least on the units I've seen), and because of the design is more likely to freeflow. Yes I know it has a shutoff. I'm not saying the Meg's is the best but I do like it much more than the Optima's.

jkaterenchuk · 26th January 2008, 02:15

Quote: (Originally Posted by brandonmc)

FWIW both units use generally easy to get parts which simplifies things over a unit like the Inspiration/Evolution

Really, check the Diverite Express website.....they carry most all the maintenance parts you would want for the Inspiration. Also, Silent Diving Systems, the NA distributor for AP have a Canadian and NE USA location.

Are you sure you know what your talking about?

John

brandonmc · 26th January 2008, 02:30

Quote: (Originally Posted by jkaterenchuk)

Really, check the Diverite Express website.....they carry most all the maintenance parts you would want for the Inspiration. Also, Silent Diving Systems, the NA distributor for AP have a Canadian and NE USA location.

Are you sure you know what your talking about?

John

No, I had no idea there are stores that stock AP parts.

Thank you for clearing that up.

Maybe I should have phrased it: FWIW both units use generally standard parts which simplifies things over a unit like the Inspiration/Evolution. Sorry for the confusion.

As an example: A meg or Optima can use any RD22 sensor with a molex connector, and Inspiration you need to order from an Inspiration dealer the sensor with the special connector.

***jradomski*** · 26th January 2008, 02:55

Quote: (Originally Posted by brandonmc)

No, I had no idea there are stores that stock AP parts.

Thank you for clearing that up.

Maybe I should have phrased it: FWIW both units use generally standard parts which simplifies things over a unit like the Inspiration/Evolution. Sorry for the confusion.

As an example: A meg or Optima can use any RD22 sensor with a molex connector, and Inspiration you need to order from an Inspiration dealer the sensor with the special connector.

When I was actively selling the Inspiration, I stocked all the common parts.. I also know several other stores that did the same.. and for the ones that werent stocked, there was always Fed-Ex..

I still normally have at least 1 of each specialty part like the OPV, manual add ect... for when I teach..

I never stocked an ADV because its not a necessary item.. In a pinch I could throw on a standard t-piece..

jkaterenchuk · 26th January 2008, 04:29

Quote: (Originally Posted by brandonmc)

As an example: A meg or Optima can use any RD22 sensor with a molex connector, and Inspiration you need to order from an Inspiration dealer the sensor with the special connector.

My Inspiration Classic takes the standard R22D with Molex.
If you only want to buy the R22D sensor with the coax connector from AP you can but you can also buy them elsewhere...AP would like you to only buy the sensors from them. See the diverite express web like. They also sell them. Strike Two! Better to quit while your behind.

Oxygen Sensors for Diving

John

brandonmc · 26th January 2008, 06:26

Quote: (Originally Posted by jkaterenchuk)

My Inspiration Classic takes the standard R22D with Molex.
If you only want to buy the R22D sensor with the coax connector from AP you can but you can also buy them elsewhere...AP would like you to only buy the sensors from them. See the diverite express web like. They also sell them. Strike Two! Better to quit while your behind.

Oxygen Sensors for Diving

John

My point, which you clearly missed, was about the flexibility and interchangeability of parts. Argue and plug DR Express all you want, the fact is the Inspiration/AP units fall behind in this category.

26th January 2008, 00:29	#131 (permalink)
jiseson DSIX/O2PTIMA Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: long island,ny Posts: 643	Re: Megaladon Versus Optima Fx Quote: (Originally Posted by Dsix36) I am just saying this - enough about the scrubber, lets get to the many other reasons that an Optima is superior. About the vibrating HUD - It is not nearly as noticeable at depth - not that I would have any experience with not monitoring for this to happen. OK, maybe once Optima owners tend to be better looking folk i noticed too! __________________ *Jonathan D Iseson*
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26th January 2008, 00:45	#132 (permalink)
Dsix36 Going Down? Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Deerfield Beach, Florida Posts: 1,154	Re: Megaladon Versus Optima Fx Quote: (Originally Posted by jiseson) Optima owners tend to be better looking folk i noticed too! That is just soooo obvious that I didn't think it needed to be mentioned __________________ THE MORE THAT I LEARN, THE MORE THAT I STILL NEED TO LEARN!!!!!!
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26th January 2008, 00:47	#133 (permalink)
brandonmc is awesome Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 114	Re: Megaladon Versus Optima Fx Quote: (Originally Posted by Dsix36) lets get to the many other reasons that an Optima is superior. Ok, well while you are typing that up... I didnt read through all this thread so if this is repetitious, may the internet gods be forgiving... Taking the scrubber out of the equation... There are things I like about the Optima and things I like about the Meg. Let me try and summarize for the OG poster: Things I don't like about the Optima: the bulky case, the frame/structural design, the ADV, the general build quality of it Things I like about the Optima: the electronics, the service (from what I hear) Things I like about the Meg: modularity (tanks, scrubber, etc), better ADV (than Optima), general build quality, service, relatively low profile, the electronics Really the only thing I dont like about the Meg is that you have to take the head off to turn on/off the unit. On the fence about: Meg does not have integrated deco, I think this has its pluses and minuses but thats a whole other thread. FWIW both units use generally easy to get parts which simplifies things over a unit like the Inspiration/Evolution __________________ http://www.downtoolong.com/
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26th January 2008, 01:02	#134 (permalink)
Tienuts Chief Prankster Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fort Lauderdale Posts: 299	Re: Megaladon Versus Optima Fx Quote: (Originally Posted by brandonmc) Things I don't like about the Optima: the bulky case, the frame/structural design, the ADV, the general build quality of it Now this is not a troll or start of another argument (I hope.) I hear this a lot from Meg divers, and I am genuinely curious why the ADV is so much better. I just stocked 3 of them on the shelves today, It deosn't seem to be built any better.
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26th January 2008, 01:11	#135 (permalink)
brandonmc is awesome Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 114	Re: Megaladon Versus Optima Fx Quote: (Originally Posted by Tienuts) Now this is not a troll or start of another argument (I hope.) I hear this a lot from Meg divers, and I am genuinely curious why the ADV is so much better. I just stocked 3 of them on the shelves today, It deosn't seem to be built any better. The Optima's has a higher profile than the Meg's, it is harder to reach (at least on the units I've seen), and because of the design is more likely to freeflow. Yes I know it has a shutoff. I'm not saying the Meg's is the best but I do like it much more than the Optima's. __________________ http://www.downtoolong.com/
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26th January 2008, 02:15	#136 (permalink)
jkaterenchuk . Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lititz, PA Posts: 1,100	Re: Megaladon Versus Optima Fx Quote: (Originally Posted by brandonmc) FWIW both units use generally easy to get parts which simplifies things over a unit like the Inspiration/Evolution Really, check the Diverite Express website.....they carry most all the maintenance parts you would want for the Inspiration. Also, Silent Diving Systems, the NA distributor for AP have a Canadian and NE USA location. Are you sure you know what your talking about? John
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26th January 2008, 02:30	#137 (permalink)
brandonmc is awesome Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 114	Re: Megaladon Versus Optima Fx Quote: (Originally Posted by jkaterenchuk) Really, check the Diverite Express website.....they carry most all the maintenance parts you would want for the Inspiration. Also, Silent Diving Systems, the NA distributor for AP have a Canadian and NE USA location. Are you sure you know what your talking about? John No, I had no idea there are stores that stock AP parts. Thank you for clearing that up. Maybe I should have phrased it: FWIW both units use generally standard parts which simplifies things over a unit like the Inspiration/Evolution. Sorry for the confusion. As an example: A meg or Optima can use any RD22 sensor with a molex connector, and Inspiration you need to order from an Inspiration dealer the sensor with the special connector. __________________ http://www.downtoolong.com/ Last edited by brandonmc : 26th January 2008 at 02:40.
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26th January 2008, 02:55	#138 (permalink)
*jradomski* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "Da" Bronx Posts: 3,115	Re: Megaladon Versus Optima Fx Quote: (Originally Posted by brandonmc) No, I had no idea there are stores that stock AP parts. Thank you for clearing that up. Maybe I should have phrased it: FWIW both units use generally standard parts which simplifies things over a unit like the Inspiration/Evolution. Sorry for the confusion. As an example: A meg or Optima can use any RD22 sensor with a molex connector, and Inspiration you need to order from an Inspiration dealer the sensor with the special connector. When I was actively selling the Inspiration, I stocked all the common parts.. I also know several other stores that did the same.. and for the ones that werent stocked, there was always Fed-Ex.. I still normally have at least 1 of each specialty part like the OPV, manual add ect... for when I teach.. I never stocked an ADV because its not a necessary item.. In a pinch I could throw on a standard t-piece.. __________________ Joe Radomski CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer ANDI Instructor Trainer Director #10 All posts are personal opinions and DO NOT reflect any affiliated agency unless specifically stated.
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26th January 2008, 04:29	#139 (permalink)
jkaterenchuk . Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lititz, PA Posts: 1,100	Re: Megaladon Versus Optima Fx Quote: (Originally Posted by brandonmc) As an example: A meg or Optima can use any RD22 sensor with a molex connector, and Inspiration you need to order from an Inspiration dealer the sensor with the special connector. My Inspiration Classic takes the standard R22D with Molex. If you only want to buy the R22D sensor with the coax connector from AP you can but you can also buy them elsewhere...AP would like you to only buy the sensors from them. See the diverite express web like. They also sell them. Strike Two! Better to quit while your behind. Oxygen Sensors for Diving John
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26th January 2008, 06:26	#140 (permalink)
brandonmc is awesome Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 114	Re: Megaladon Versus Optima Fx Quote: (Originally Posted by jkaterenchuk) My Inspiration Classic takes the standard R22D with Molex. If you only want to buy the R22D sensor with the coax connector from AP you can but you can also buy them elsewhere...AP would like you to only buy the sensors from them. See the diverite express web like. They also sell them. Strike Two! Better to quit while your behind. Oxygen Sensors for Diving John My point, which you clearly missed, was about the flexibility and interchangeability of parts. Argue and plug DR Express all you want, the fact is the Inspiration/AP units fall behind in this category. __________________ http://www.downtoolong.com/
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