sport kiss mix diver

MADDOG

Hello
I have been reading about courses mod 3 is the one i need to cover my diving
but having been oc timix i can bye the gas i know how to plan an ascent on oc which is my bail out and the sport kiss course only gives 50m so why bother i know any good course will show up any weakness in my skills or thoery but it still would not validate my insurance whilst deep diving abroad.
i guess no one byes a rebeather to run it on air i did my first twenty or so hours till i was sure i could make my stops but now even shallow dives are mix dives happy days
i would like to have a ticket thuogh

dan140465

Hi
If you are wanting to dive lower than 50M as your post seems to surgest and you are concerned about insurance, then you need to look at another rebreather, as the depth and so the training are set by the manufacturer.
The first choice would be the classic kiss, as the controls/monitoring are the same.
I know of sport kiss divers, who have done their mod2 on their sport, then borrowed a classic to get the mod3, but then if you dive below the manufacturers max depth, on your sport then you are effectively on your own as regards insurance .

Danny

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MADDOG

thanks i think that is what ill have to do it just seems a bit odd doing a course on somoneelses unit when i would be happier on my own unit as for the manufactures depth rating is not understood by myself as the abilaty of a classic to hold some amount of water may give some confidence but not having seen water in my unit and the tests on scrubbers done recently
shows that its up to the job if you alway dive a new one on deep dives
the double o ring does not really stand up for much more than a confidence boost either as the loop is at amient pressure or near most of the time
the tests are the same on all rebreathers pos and negative
a pass is a pass
sometimes i think these depth ratings are a bit dreamed up rather than worked out
any rebreather can fail at any depth even ce rated rebreathers thats why we carry bail out oc wich ive used for 18 years so i need a course to show i can us it still if my unit fails perhaps theres somthing i am missing

Ben Field

I think you need to look more closely at the recently released scrubber test results from Jetsam before taking the SK below 50mtrs... there is no doubt it can do it but the scrubber just doesn't last that long for technical diving, for recreational stuff its perfect, its the main reason I upgraded.

The SK scrubber is adequate for Sport diving, the CK scrubber is one of the very best currently available, there is considerable difference, I would not want to have an issue on a deep dive where the total dive time takes the scrubber right to the limit better to have some reserve in your pocket.

Finally I'm very sure I wouldn't borrow a rebreather to do MOD3, I would want to do it on my own unit that I'm confident with.

It sucks to have to change your unit but I don't regret it, the cost wasn't so bad as I went KISS to KISS so all the spare and tools could be kept and the skills are almost identical.

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chunter

Where is this recently released scrubber test? Do you have a link?

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SteveJ

http://www.rebreatherworld.com/kiss-...ion-tests.html

There are 2 PDFs on this page, one for the classic and one for the sport.


Steve

MADDOG

the results of the test show that the classic does have a massive scrubber
life at depth with the sport unless you are going to spend more than an hour deeper than 40m in 4.c whilst producing double normal breathing rate co2
2 hour run times are not even close to scrubber life in normal uk diving where
the last 40mins or so is at 4-6m