U-534

luckybob99 · 7th February 2008, 07:18

I keep Dreaming about my mates wife

***caveseeker7*** · 7th February 2008, 07:24

Marv, that explains a lot.
Bob, say farewell to your mates, hope you enjoy solo diving.
Dave, I'll be dreaming it now.

**PhilSiswick** · 7th February 2008, 09:55

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton)

Actually, the Type-VIIC U-Boat is:

The worlds most numerous single type of ship STILL EXISTING AS OF TODAY (2008):
Of any single design ever constructed, in any age, by anyone, military or civil.

That's because almost every one ever built STILL EXISTS.

The second most numerous ship of any kind still existing? The Type-IXC U Boat.

Yes, they are mostly all hidden from view, but they DO still exist. If you vacuumed the water out of the seas for an hour, there would be almost 1000 of them. 739 in WW-II, and 200 in WW-I, not including scuttling and after-war disposals at sea (add many dozens for those). You could almost walk across the Bay of Biscay on them. Nearly 35,000 (yes, thirty five thousand) men are still in them, some 30,000 in WW-II and about 5000 in WW-I. That's 3 out of 4 who went to the sea in them. Think about that for a minute.

Interesting thought - not seen it from that angle before. I am very aware of how privileged we are to have access to so much history that is hidden to the majority, while being very humbled at the sacrifice and loss involved.

Quote:

Has anyone else ever had a dream where you walk down to the sea, and find it empty, and look out and can see the shipwrecks laying on the sand? To be able to walk around them for an hour... I would give 20 years of my life to see it. Just curious if I am the only one who has the dream. I have it about once a month.

Can't say I have. OTOH, walking on the beach in Stanley in the Falklands is akin to this. Abandoned wooden ships from the clipper era just lying on the beach, a few hundred yards from the nearest pub. Am amazing experience.

Cheers,

Ben Field · 7th February 2008, 10:17

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton)

Has anyone else ever had a dream where you walk down to the sea, and find it empty, and look out and can see the shipwrecks laying on the sand? To be able to walk around them for an hour... I would give 20 years of my life to see it. Just curious if I am the only one who has the dream. I have it about once a month.

Yes but only in Nightmares- dunno what its like in the US but here anything "left" lying around unattended and obviously unwanted would be tagged up by some Chav kids from the nearest housing estate, smell of urine from lost drunks on there way home using it as a toilet and there would be a broken shopping trolly next to it.Best place for them is where only the determined can access them IMOI'm harbouring a desire to dive the Deadlight fleet at some point, Hmm- lovely unmolested U-boats,

**Dave Sutton** · 7th February 2008, 12:15

Quote: (Originally Posted by PhilSiswick)

Can't say I have. OTOH, walking on the beach in Stanley in the Falklands is akin to this. Abandoned wooden ships from the clipper era just lying on the beach, a few hundred yards from the nearest pub. Am amazing experience.

Cheers,

Hey Phil, when were you there? The hulks were left from the old days when ships were obliged to be inspected there before rounding the cape, and ones that were condemned were abandoned. Some were barged back in the 1970's to be restored in Europe. Long forgotten memories... I ought to Google.

Did you get down to South Georgia or Deception? Really magic spots... in the footsteps of Shackleton. I did a season with the United States Antarctic Research Program (USARP, now the USAP) at Palmer Station, just south of there on Anvers Island on the Penninsula, and it is a *wonderful* area of the world, and we were very privileged to call on many of the more northern islands on our way back to Ushuia aboard the 125 foot wooden trawler HERO at the end of the season. Crossing the Drake Passage on the round bottom wooden trawler... let's just say that it was a memorable week.

Dave

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**PhilSiswick** · 7th February 2008, 12:32

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton)

Hey Phil, when were you there? The hulks were left from the old days when ships were obliged to be inspected there before rounding the cape, and ones that were condemned were abandoned. Some were barged back in the 1970's to be restored in Europe. Long forgotten memories... I ought to Google.

I was down there for a month in the mid-90s (1994 if I recall) in the days when I was in the Auxiliary Air Force here. I didn't know the history of the hulks then, though I wish I had done. Didn't stop me exploring though.

Quote:

Did you get down to South Georgia or Deception? Really magic spots... in the footsteps of Shackleton.

Got down to South Georgia by air, so have seen it from altitude. Spent most of my time stooging round the Falklands, swinging my feet out of the door of an S61. A wonderful place - I was very glad to have the opportunity. It's amazingly like the Orkneys though.

Quote:

I did a season with the United States Antarctic Research Program (USARP, now the USAP) at Palmer Station, just south of there on Anvers Island on the Penninsula, and it is a *wonderful* area of the world, and we were very privileged to call on many of the more northern islands on our way back to Ushuia aboard the 125 foot wooden trawler HERO at the end of the season. Crossing the Drake Passage on the round bottom wooden trawler... let's just say that it was a memorable week.

Is it too late for me to live your life?? I feel I missed a turn somewhere

Cheers,

**Dave Sutton** · 7th February 2008, 13:06

Quote: (Originally Posted by PhilSiswick)

Got down to South Georgia by air, so have seen it from altitude. Spent most of my time stooging round the Falklands, swinging my feet out of the door of an S61.

Can you imagine walking across the mountains in rags, near starvation, after a sea-voyage in a lifeboat knowing that the fate of your mates left behind is in the success of your journey? Grytvikken must have looked pretty good to Shackleton. Those mountains looked bloody impressive from the harbor, I would have loved the view you got from the helo.

Here's one of the ships that I remembered being brought back from The Falklands. Go see it!

History of Brunel's ss Great Britain

Dave

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**PhilSiswick** · 7th February 2008, 13:26

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton)

Can you imagine walking across the mountains in rags, near starvation, after a sea-voyage in a lifeboat knowing that the fate of your mates left behind is in the success of your journey? Grytvikken must have looked pretty good to Shackleton. Those mountains looked bloody impressive from the harbor, I would have loved the view you got from the helo.

It's one of those stories that sticks in my mind - especially having seen the terrain. It's one of those trips that I'll never forget for many reasons - it's all so remote and so rugged. Hard to believe that people live there at all.

Quote:

Here's one of the ships that I remembered being brought back from The Falklands. Go see it!

History of Brunel's ss Great Britain

Went on a school trip years ago, while the restoration was going on. Must go back now with my kids - I've seen programmes on the new museum. It looks stunning.

Together with the Cutty Sark and Mary Rose, this was one of the things that kindled my interest in ships and diving.

Cheers,

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7th February 2008, 09:55	#23 (permalink)
PhilSiswick Phil Siswick, Tango Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 996	Re: U-534 Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton) Actually, the Type-VIIC U-Boat is: The worlds most numerous single type of ship STILL EXISTING AS OF TODAY (2008): Of any single design ever constructed, in any age, by anyone, military or civil. That's because almost every one ever built STILL EXISTS. The second most numerous ship of any kind still existing? The Type-IXC U Boat. Yes, they are mostly all hidden from view, but they DO still exist. If you vacuumed the water out of the seas for an hour, there would be almost 1000 of them. 739 in WW-II, and 200 in WW-I, not including scuttling and after-war disposals at sea (add many dozens for those). You could almost walk across the Bay of Biscay on them. Nearly 35,000 (yes, thirty five thousand) men are still in them, some 30,000 in WW-II and about 5000 in WW-I. That's 3 out of 4 who went to the sea in them. Think about that for a minute. Interesting thought - not seen it from that angle before. I am very aware of how privileged we are to have access to so much history that is hidden to the majority, while being very humbled at the sacrifice and loss involved. Quote: Has anyone else ever had a dream where you walk down to the sea, and find it empty, and look out and can see the shipwrecks laying on the sand? To be able to walk around them for an hour... I would give 20 years of my life to see it. Just curious if I am the only one who has the dream. I have it about once a month. Can't say I have. OTOH, walking on the beach in Stanley in the Falklands is akin to this. Abandoned wooden ships from the clipper era just lying on the beach, a few hundred yards from the nearest pub. Am amazing experience. Cheers, __________________ Phil (WSKD 0001) I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 The person who gets the farthest is generally the one who is willing to do and dare. The sure thing boat never gets far from shore. Charles A. Lindbergh www.hugsac.org.uk
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7th February 2008, 10:17	#24 (permalink)
Ben Field CK+Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 1,621	Re: U-534 Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton) Has anyone else ever had a dream where you walk down to the sea, and find it empty, and look out and can see the shipwrecks laying on the sand? To be able to walk around them for an hour... I would give 20 years of my life to see it. Just curious if I am the only one who has the dream. I have it about once a month. Yes but only in Nightmares- dunno what its like in the US but here anything "left" lying around unattended and obviously unwanted would be tagged up by some Chav kids from the nearest housing estate, smell of urine from lost drunks on there way home using it as a toilet and there would be a broken shopping trolly next to it.Best place for them is where only the determined can access them IMOI'm harbouring a desire to dive the Deadlight fleet at some point, Hmm- lovely unmolested U-boats, __________________ Know your PPO2, Pre-breath, Use checklists, Validate cells at 6mtrs, Use pure O2 at or near surface, Use a BOV, Don't dive Solo, Change Slime and Cells as recommended by Manufacturer and RTFM! Beware Fridge Suck! www.hugsac.org.uk
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7th February 2008, 12:15	#25 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Diveshop of Horrors Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,672	Re: U-534 Quote: (Originally Posted by PhilSiswick) Can't say I have. OTOH, walking on the beach in Stanley in the Falklands is akin to this. Abandoned wooden ships from the clipper era just lying on the beach, a few hundred yards from the nearest pub. Am amazing experience. Cheers, Hey Phil, when were you there? The hulks were left from the old days when ships were obliged to be inspected there before rounding the cape, and ones that were condemned were abandoned. Some were barged back in the 1970's to be restored in Europe. Long forgotten memories... I ought to Google. Did you get down to South Georgia or Deception? Really magic spots... in the footsteps of Shackleton. I did a season with the United States Antarctic Research Program (USARP, now the USAP) at Palmer Station, just south of there on Anvers Island on the Penninsula, and it is a wonderful area of the world, and we were very privileged to call on many of the more northern islands on our way back to Ushuia aboard the 125 foot wooden trawler HERO at the end of the season. Crossing the Drake Passage on the round bottom wooden trawler... let's just say that it was a memorable week. Dave . __________________ "Changes in Lattitudes, Changes in Attitudes, Nothing remains quite the same".... www.nobubblediving.com Last edited by Dave Sutton : 7th February 2008 at 12:18.
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7th February 2008, 12:32	#26 (permalink)
PhilSiswick Phil Siswick, Tango Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 996	Re: U-534 Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton) Hey Phil, when were you there? The hulks were left from the old days when ships were obliged to be inspected there before rounding the cape, and ones that were condemned were abandoned. Some were barged back in the 1970's to be restored in Europe. Long forgotten memories... I ought to Google. I was down there for a month in the mid-90s (1994 if I recall) in the days when I was in the Auxiliary Air Force here. I didn't know the history of the hulks then, though I wish I had done. Didn't stop me exploring though. Quote: Did you get down to South Georgia or Deception? Really magic spots... in the footsteps of Shackleton. Got down to South Georgia by air, so have seen it from altitude. Spent most of my time stooging round the Falklands, swinging my feet out of the door of an S61. A wonderful place - I was very glad to have the opportunity. It's amazingly like the Orkneys though. Quote: I did a season with the United States Antarctic Research Program (USARP, now the USAP) at Palmer Station, just south of there on Anvers Island on the Penninsula, and it is a wonderful area of the world, and we were very privileged to call on many of the more northern islands on our way back to Ushuia aboard the 125 foot wooden trawler HERO at the end of the season. Crossing the Drake Passage on the round bottom wooden trawler... let's just say that it was a memorable week. Is it too late for me to live your life?? I feel I missed a turn somewhere Cheers, __________________ Phil (WSKD 0001) I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 The person who gets the farthest is generally the one who is willing to do and dare. The sure thing boat never gets far from shore. Charles A. Lindbergh www.hugsac.org.uk
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7th February 2008, 13:06	#27 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Diveshop of Horrors Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,672	Re: U-534 Quote: (Originally Posted by PhilSiswick) Got down to South Georgia by air, so have seen it from altitude. Spent most of my time stooging round the Falklands, swinging my feet out of the door of an S61. Can you imagine walking across the mountains in rags, near starvation, after a sea-voyage in a lifeboat knowing that the fate of your mates left behind is in the success of your journey? Grytvikken must have looked pretty good to Shackleton. Those mountains looked bloody impressive from the harbor, I would have loved the view you got from the helo. Here's one of the ships that I remembered being brought back from The Falklands. Go see it! History of Brunel's ss Great Britain Dave . __________________ "Changes in Lattitudes, Changes in Attitudes, Nothing remains quite the same".... www.nobubblediving.com Last edited by Dave Sutton : 7th February 2008 at 13:13.
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7th February 2008, 13:26	#28 (permalink)
PhilSiswick Phil Siswick, Tango Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 996	Re: U-534 Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton) Can you imagine walking across the mountains in rags, near starvation, after a sea-voyage in a lifeboat knowing that the fate of your mates left behind is in the success of your journey? Grytvikken must have looked pretty good to Shackleton. Those mountains looked bloody impressive from the harbor, I would have loved the view you got from the helo. It's one of those stories that sticks in my mind - especially having seen the terrain. It's one of those trips that I'll never forget for many reasons - it's all so remote and so rugged. Hard to believe that people live there at all. Quote: Here's one of the ships that I remembered being brought back from The Falklands. Go see it! History of Brunel's ss Great Britain Went on a school trip years ago, while the restoration was going on. Must go back now with my kids - I've seen programmes on the new museum. It looks stunning. Together with the Cutty Sark and Mary Rose, this was one of the things that kindled my interest in ships and diving. Cheers, __________________ Phil (WSKD 0001) I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 The person who gets the farthest is generally the one who is willing to do and dare. The sure thing boat never gets far from shore. Charles A. Lindbergh www.hugsac.org.uk
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