U-534

Meerveld · 1st October 2007, 09:10

I have signed both the UK and international petitions and forwarded links to my diving friends for their action.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

pirateeye · 1st October 2007, 17:21

Signed

Meerveld · 8th January 2008, 00:37

I just received an email "10 Downing Street" with the governments response to the petition. It reads:

"The U-534 U-boat has been in Birkenhead in 1996, on loan from her Danish owners, where she has been on display alongside the collection of the Warship Preservation Trust. The Government welcomes the recent agreement which will enable U-534 U-boat to be acquired by the Merseyside Passenger Transport Executive and displayed in Birkenhead as part of the Mersey ferry landing stage visitor centre. But it is not Government policy to provide direct financial support for the preservation of historic ships, other than through the provision of grant-in-aid to sponsored museums which hold vessels of historic significance in their collections."

I am not sure if this means it will be preserved in one piece or not. Does anyony know?

Carl

Johnny Christensen · 8th January 2008, 09:03

Quote: (Originally Posted by Meerveld)

I am not sure if this means it will be preserved in one piece or not. Does anyony know?

Carl

It's my impression that Karsten Ree (the danish owner) is intrested in keeping the wreck intact. I would be most surprised if Åge Jensen (danish diver that located the wreck) has given up the dream of getting the wreckage back to Denmark and building a museum.

Johnny Christensen · 14th January 2008, 22:44

Quote: (Originally Posted by Johnny Christensen)

It's my impression that Karsten Ree (the danish owner) is intrested in keeping the wreck intact. I would be most surprised if Åge Jensen (danish diver that located the wreck) has given up the dream of getting the wreckage back to Denmark and building a museum.

Hmmmnnn... from other sources on the web, it looks like it's no longer under danish ownership. I wonder if Karsten Ree ever got his 22 million Dkr (about 2million £) back from his pet salvage project.
A lot of the unpublished stuff is still under lock and key at his farm.

**PhilSiswick** · 6th February 2008, 17:44

Looks like it's being chopped up after all BBC NEWS | England | Merseyside | Engineers breaking-up WWII U-boat.

Will be interesting to visit - shame it can't be left intact though.

Cheers,

Dsix36 · 6th February 2008, 18:48

That just sucks!

**Dave Sutton** · 6th February 2008, 18:55

Being split into 4 sections for preservation is not the end of the world: It'll make it conservable, housable, and accessable. It's not being scrapped, and that's the good news.

It's an interesting thing though: The press release states that "there are only 4 intact U-Boats left in the world". That's patently untrue, but from a terrestial view I can appreciate why people think this.

Actually, the Type-VIIC U-Boat is:

The worlds most numerous single type of ship STILL EXISTING AS OF TODAY (2008):
Of any single design ever constructed, in any age, by anyone, military or civil.

That's because almost every one ever built STILL EXISTS.

The second most numerous ship of any kind still existing? The Type-IXC U Boat.

Yes, they are mostly all hidden from view, but they DO still exist. If you vacuumed the water out of the seas for an hour, there would be almost 1000 of them. 739 in WW-II, and 200 in WW-I, not including scuttling and after-war disposals at sea (add many dozens for those). You could almost walk across the Bay of Biscay on them. Nearly 35,000 (yes, thirty five thousand) men are still in them, some 30,000 in WW-II and about 5000 in WW-I. That's 3 out of 4 who went to the sea in them. Think about that for a minute.

Has anyone else ever had a dream where you walk down to the sea, and find it empty, and look out and can see the shipwrecks laying on the sand? To be able to walk around them for an hour... I would give 20 years of my life to see it. Just curious if I am the only one who has the dream. I have it about once a month.

Dave

(Yeah, I like U-Boats: Having one 13 miles away from the dock does that).

.

Tyler S. · 6th February 2008, 21:01

Dave, I have had this exact same dream, numerous times. I walk to the edge of the ocean only to find it gone leaving exposed everything. So much history is sitting at the bottom of the ocean waiting to discovered, it's insane

**kybrt** · 7th February 2008, 07:26

i have the dream where im eating a giant marshmallow, and every time , when i wake up, my pillow is gone.

1st October 2007, 09:10	#11 (permalink)
Meerveld Aviator, diver & sailor Current Rebreather/s: Pelagian Other Rebreather/s: Pelagian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Koh Samui, Thailand Posts: 30	Re: U-534 I have signed both the UK and international petitions and forwarded links to my diving friends for their action. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. __________________ We do not inherit the earth from our parents; we steal it from our children ~ based on a Native American proverb
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1st October 2007, 17:21	#12 (permalink)
pirateeye New Member Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Dolphin Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 49	Re: U-534 Signed __________________ Why Buy It When You Can Spend More to Build It
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8th January 2008, 00:37	#13 (permalink)
Meerveld Aviator, diver & sailor Current Rebreather/s: Pelagian Other Rebreather/s: Pelagian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Koh Samui, Thailand Posts: 30	Re: U-534 I just received an email "10 Downing Street" with the governments response to the petition. It reads: "The U-534 U-boat has been in Birkenhead in 1996, on loan from her Danish owners, where she has been on display alongside the collection of the Warship Preservation Trust. The Government welcomes the recent agreement which will enable U-534 U-boat to be acquired by the Merseyside Passenger Transport Executive and displayed in Birkenhead as part of the Mersey ferry landing stage visitor centre. But it is not Government policy to provide direct financial support for the preservation of historic ships, other than through the provision of grant-in-aid to sponsored museums which hold vessels of historic significance in their collections." I am not sure if this means it will be preserved in one piece or not. Does anyony know? Carl __________________ We do not inherit the earth from our parents; we steal it from our children ~ based on a Native American proverb
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8th January 2008, 09:03	#14 (permalink)
Johnny Christensen RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 306	Re: U-534 Quote: (Originally Posted by Meerveld) I am not sure if this means it will be preserved in one piece or not. Does anyony know? Carl It's my impression that Karsten Ree (the danish owner) is intrested in keeping the wreck intact. I would be most surprised if Åge Jensen (danish diver that located the wreck) has given up the dream of getting the wreckage back to Denmark and building a museum. __________________ www.johnnychristensen.com Wreckphotography from the cold north
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14th January 2008, 22:44	#15 (permalink)
Johnny Christensen RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 306	Re: U-534 Quote: (Originally Posted by Johnny Christensen) It's my impression that Karsten Ree (the danish owner) is intrested in keeping the wreck intact. I would be most surprised if Åge Jensen (danish diver that located the wreck) has given up the dream of getting the wreckage back to Denmark and building a museum. Hmmmnnn... from other sources on the web, it looks like it's no longer under danish ownership. I wonder if Karsten Ree ever got his 22 million Dkr (about 2million £) back from his pet salvage project. A lot of the unpublished stuff is still under lock and key at his farm. __________________ www.johnnychristensen.com Wreckphotography from the cold north
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6th February 2008, 17:44	#16 (permalink)
PhilSiswick Phil Siswick, Tango Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 1,062	Re: U-534 Looks like it's being chopped up after all BBC NEWS \| England \| Merseyside \| Engineers breaking-up WWII U-boat. Will be interesting to visit - shame it can't be left intact though. Cheers, __________________ Phil (WSKD 0001) I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 The person who gets the farthest is generally the one who is willing to do and dare. The sure thing boat never gets far from shore. Charles A. Lindbergh www.hugsac.org.uk
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6th February 2008, 18:48	#17 (permalink)
Dsix36 Going Down? Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Deerfield Beach, Florida Posts: 1,145	Re: U-534 That just sucks! __________________ THE MORE THAT I LEARN, THE MORE THAT I STILL NEED TO LEARN!!!!!!
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6th February 2008, 18:55	#18 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Diveshop of Horrors Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,720	Re: U-534 Being split into 4 sections for preservation is not the end of the world: It'll make it conservable, housable, and accessable. It's not being scrapped, and that's the good news. It's an interesting thing though: The press release states that "there are only 4 intact U-Boats left in the world". That's patently untrue, but from a terrestial view I can appreciate why people think this. Actually, the Type-VIIC U-Boat is: The worlds most numerous single type of ship STILL EXISTING AS OF TODAY (2008): Of any single design ever constructed, in any age, by anyone, military or civil. That's because almost every one ever built STILL EXISTS. The second most numerous ship of any kind still existing? The Type-IXC U Boat. Yes, they are mostly all hidden from view, but they DO still exist. If you vacuumed the water out of the seas for an hour, there would be almost 1000 of them. 739 in WW-II, and 200 in WW-I, not including scuttling and after-war disposals at sea (add many dozens for those). You could almost walk across the Bay of Biscay on them. Nearly 35,000 (yes, thirty five thousand) men are still in them, some 30,000 in WW-II and about 5000 in WW-I. That's 3 out of 4 who went to the sea in them. Think about that for a minute. Has anyone else ever had a dream where you walk down to the sea, and find it empty, and look out and can see the shipwrecks laying on the sand? To be able to walk around them for an hour... I would give 20 years of my life to see it. Just curious if I am the only one who has the dream. I have it about once a month. Dave (Yeah, I like U-Boats: Having one 13 miles away from the dock does that). . __________________ "Silent Diving with No Bubbles and No Politics".... www.nobubblediving.com Last edited by Dave Sutton : 6th February 2008 at 19:47.
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6th February 2008, 21:01	#19 (permalink)
Tyler S. rEject Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 275	Re: U-534 Dave, I have had this exact same dream, numerous times. I walk to the edge of the ocean only to find it gone leaving exposed everything. So much history is sitting at the bottom of the ocean waiting to discovered, it's insane
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7th February 2008, 07:26	#20 (permalink)
kybrt too legit to quit Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Neuw Yawk Posts: 376	Re: U-534 i have the dream where im eating a giant marshmallow, and every time , when i wake up, my pillow is gone. __________________ Marv Fidelis Ad Mortem www.diveboatkaren.com
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