Vision and VR3/4th cell on the same wrist

nigelh

Somebody must have done it.

I can't seem to come up with a way to make them work together. Physically that is for the cables. I don't want to invert the VR3 display and put it on the other wrist as I have too much investment in brain automatics for pushing the buttons. Ideally one is on the top of my left wrist and the other on the bottom and I just trurn my hand over to swap between them.

Any ideas? I'm not even sure how the straps attach so perhaps making a 'clam-shell' so they are attached to one another would work. I find doing the clips up (and undoing them to hand it off to the RIB jockey) a pain so maybe I can fix that as well. Something that goes on a bare wrist in the pool and over the drysuit would be nice and the VR3 can't bolt on as I use it with the IDA. Would I do better just attaching them to one another and treating it as a console?

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nigelh

decoweenie

Ron has something similar for Meg+VR-3 and HH+VR-3 that he sells.

Do a quick search to get the idea to make one yourself, or modify Ron's.

ADDited:

Here it is Nigel:

http://www.rebreatherworld.com/rebre...hlight=Ron+vr3

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onthetrain

Nigel, not that I know anything about anything but I connect the vr3 to the back of one of the handsets with big thick cable ties

narked at 90

Nigel dives a vision breather and it only has one wrist mounted display that goes on th left arm....same as the vr3 so they clash.
i wish the manufactures would think of all the people with vr3s and put there controlers on the right!
kind regards john routley

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onthetrain

See told you I know nothing

Cheers John

Alan

James

When I first got my vision, I was diving with both the VR3 and the vision electronics on my left arm. I put the VR3 on first and then put both the straps either side of the VR3. It was a fair amount of metal around my arm & quite tricky to set it up so both displays were nicely visible.

After a couple of dives, I canned the VR3 as it gave me more deco & I felt a lot more tired after a dive, than decompressing with the onboard deco on the vision. I also found the vision tracked with my tables a lot more closely.

Just get rid of the VR3!!


James.

Depth-junkie

Seriously why not just put it on the right wrist and push the buttons to flip the screen the right way round again, buttons end up the same as before just at the top of the computer rather than the bottom.

If you are hell bent on keeping it on the left, strap the VR3 on 1st followed by the vision handset but rather than the vision on the wrist get it to sit on your back hand with the straps looping over your palm. I did this for a while, it was ok. But in the end just moved the VR3 over to the right wrist, only takes a couple of dives and your brain soon registers the change and it feels natural again, and IMHO is much better and less clutterd feel.

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Gareth

nigelh

yourself.
I'm putting the VR3 on a cable after the Vision froze up on me.
I want a backup ppO2 readout or I can't even use tables.

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Tino de Rijk

My wife has put the VR3 on my right wrist. As a previous writer wrote, the button-action stays the same: left=left, right=right, so not much brain re-training required.

however, I myself don't like the Vision on my wrist anyway: to stiff & thick & long a cable, to vulnerable a place. I used the (also off-factory standard supplied) bungee to replace the wrist straps & hook it up to where my Classic handsets were also located: on the inner D-ring of the Counter lungs. So it "dangles" at the hight of my belly-nutton. A perfect place, well shielded, and frees up a left or right arm for e.g. a good old Uwatec divetimer or plastified table (VR3's are not the most reliable piece of kit in the world either - although I like it a lot and wouldn't miss it....).

In this location, it is also very easy to use the buttons, as it sort of comes up in a natural position in your hand, with your index fingers below and your thumb(s) on the buttons. View is virtually unrestricted. I will fit it with a protective cover though, as in some dive positions it "drags" over the ground - but with its sturdy aluminium backside only, so no real harm done anyway, other than taking off some paint (probably not painted, but anodised, but who cares...? ).

As to "much longer decotimes on the VR3": not my experience. Depends on the conservatism settings on both the VR3 and the Vision. They can be set to closely match. There is no "one setting fits all" solution though: settings matching depends on e.g. diluent choice: air or trimix.
On air, Vision on GF15/85 and VR3 set to 10% conservatism will up to 50 meters of depth give you matches within a few minutes of each other.

ciao,

Tino.

spottydog

Sorry for the sidetrack, Was it the display locking up, leaving the HUD to indicate PO2 with or without the scrolling bar that indicates a comms. problem between it and the setpoint controllers, Or did both controllers fail too.

-Al.