Larger Manifold

Paul Brookes · 8th January 2007, 12:55

Hi all

having purchased a shiny new BOV for my inspiration classic, I now have an issue in that there are no available dil ports on my manifold. I know I should have thought about this when I decided on the BOV, but hey...

I know there are a few extended manifolds out there, but searching on this forum and google have not been fruitful.

Can anyone recommend a larger manifold (and tell me where I can buy it) that will still fit in a standard Inspiration case?

Many thanks
Paul

Ivon · 8th January 2007, 12:59

Quote: (Originally Posted by Paul Brookes)

Hi all

having purchased a shiny new BOV for my inspiration classic, I now have an issue in that there are no available dil ports on my manifold. I know I should have thought about this when I decided on the BOV, but hey...

I know there are a few extended manifolds out there, but searching on this forum and google have not been fruitful.

Can anyone recommend a larger manifold (and tell me where I can buy it) that will still fit in a standard Inspiration case?

Many thanks
Paul

I know Bret at Divelife sells them;

Inspiration SS Extended Manifold by: DiveLife - DiveLife - DiveLife,

CharlieT · 8th January 2007, 13:01

I would suggest you plumb it into an external stage rather than your onboard 3L cylinder.

If you had a CO2 hit, the experienced Rebreather divers on this site say that an inboard 3L cylinder is totally inadequate.

Otherwise, would a T join be the answer? Personally I wouldn't want to add another potential failure point but......

Charlie

Paul Brookes · 8th January 2007, 13:15

Quote: (Originally Posted by CharlieT)

I would suggest you plumb it into an external stage rather than your onboard 3L cylinder.

If you had a CO2 hit, the experienced Rebreather divers on this site say that an inboard 3L cylinder is totally inadequate.

Otherwise, would a T join be the answer? Personally I wouldn't want to add another potential failure point but......

Charlie

I'm planning on running a line from both the manifold and stage, with a quick connect system. For "basic" dives, I will run it primarily from the manifold but for deepies, I will start the dive with it plumbed into the stage.

CCR900 · 8th January 2007, 14:13

Rather than fork out for a whole new manifold, you could try buying a 3/8" UNF 90 Degree elbow (about £14 3/8 90 Degree elbow by: Sub Aqua Products - DiveLife - DiveLife, ).

You can plug it into to orifice at the end of the standard manifold. It will get your hose in the right direction......The L is on a swivel so it means it is easy to screw in your additional hose without taking the manifold off the box.

F

Paul Brookes · 8th January 2007, 14:32

Quote: (Originally Posted by CCR900)

Rather than fork out for a whole new manifold, you could try buying a 3/8" UNF 90 Degree elbow (about £14 3/8 90 Degree elbow by: Sub Aqua Products - DiveLife - DiveLife, ).

You can plug it into to orifice at the end of the standard manifold. It will get your hose in the right direction......The L is on a swivel so it means it is easy to screw in your additional hose without taking the manifold off the box.

F

Perfect. Thanks for that.

decoweenie · 8th January 2007, 16:56

Whatever you want to do, be sure to test the flow rate at depth.

Sometimes there will be restrictions in the manifold and/or adapter that will limit the flow rate to the BOV.

When you bail out to a BOV, most likely that you will be breathing more rapidly and not a good time to find out that the flow is limited.

nmanfield · 8th January 2007, 18:47

Hi there,

When I had a BOV for my Inspiration , I connected it directly to the Diluent first stage - no because there was no room on the manifold but I felt it cut out a couple of failure points.

It fits, honest!

Best of luck

Nick

**nigelh** · 8th January 2007, 19:24

Quote: (Originally Posted by Paul Brookes)

having purchased a shiny new BOV for my inspiration classic, I now have an issue in that there are no available dil ports on my manifold. I know I should have thought about this when I decided on the BOV, but hey...

Have you missed the one on the end? Or have they done away with it. There should be enough....

Amarok · 8th January 2007, 19:28

There should be one on the end ( dil side) - is on my Vision - use a standard omniswivel and hose to QD before BOV.
Cheers

8th January 2007, 12:55	#1 (permalink)
Paul Brookes New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bournemouth, UK Posts: 35	Larger Manifold Hi all having purchased a shiny new BOV for my inspiration classic, I now have an issue in that there are no available dil ports on my manifold. I know I should have thought about this when I decided on the BOV, but hey... I know there are a few extended manifolds out there, but searching on this forum and google have not been fruitful. Can anyone recommend a larger manifold (and tell me where I can buy it) that will still fit in a standard Inspiration case? Many thanks Paul
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8th January 2007, 12:59	#2 (permalink)
Ivon Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hull, East Yorkshire, England Posts: 318	Re: Larger Manifold Quote: (Originally Posted by Paul Brookes) Hi all having purchased a shiny new BOV for my inspiration classic, I now have an issue in that there are no available dil ports on my manifold. I know I should have thought about this when I decided on the BOV, but hey... I know there are a few extended manifolds out there, but searching on this forum and google have not been fruitful. Can anyone recommend a larger manifold (and tell me where I can buy it) that will still fit in a standard Inspiration case? Many thanks Paul I know Bret at Divelife sells them; Inspiration SS Extended Manifold by: DiveLife - DiveLife - DiveLife,
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CharlieT Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London Posts: 449	Re: Larger Manifold I would suggest you plumb it into an external stage rather than your onboard 3L cylinder. If you had a CO2 hit, the experienced Rebreather divers on this site say that an inboard 3L cylinder is totally inadequate. Otherwise, would a T join be the answer? Personally I wouldn't want to add another potential failure point but...... Charlie
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8th January 2007, 13:15	#4 (permalink)
Paul Brookes New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bournemouth, UK Posts: 35	Re: Larger Manifold Quote: (Originally Posted by CharlieT) I would suggest you plumb it into an external stage rather than your onboard 3L cylinder. If you had a CO2 hit, the experienced Rebreather divers on this site say that an inboard 3L cylinder is totally inadequate. Otherwise, would a T join be the answer? Personally I wouldn't want to add another potential failure point but...... Charlie I'm planning on running a line from both the manifold and stage, with a quick connect system. For "basic" dives, I will run it primarily from the manifold but for deepies, I will start the dive with it plumbed into the stage.
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CCR900 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: England Posts: 332	Re: Larger Manifold Rather than fork out for a whole new manifold, you could try buying a 3/8" UNF 90 Degree elbow (about £14 3/8 90 Degree elbow by: Sub Aqua Products - DiveLife - DiveLife, ). You can plug it into to orifice at the end of the standard manifold. It will get your hose in the right direction......The L is on a swivel so it means it is easy to screw in your additional hose without taking the manifold off the box. F
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8th January 2007, 14:32	#6 (permalink)
Paul Brookes New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bournemouth, UK Posts: 35	Re: Larger Manifold Quote: (Originally Posted by CCR900) Rather than fork out for a whole new manifold, you could try buying a 3/8" UNF 90 Degree elbow (about £14 3/8 90 Degree elbow by: Sub Aqua Products - DiveLife - DiveLife, ). You can plug it into to orifice at the end of the standard manifold. It will get your hose in the right direction......The L is on a swivel so it means it is easy to screw in your additional hose without taking the manifold off the box. F Perfect. Thanks for that.
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8th January 2007, 16:56	#7 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Re: Larger Manifold Whatever you want to do, be sure to test the flow rate at depth. Sometimes there will be restrictions in the manifold and/or adapter that will limit the flow rate to the BOV. When you bail out to a BOV, most likely that you will be breathing more rapidly and not a good time to find out that the flow is limited. __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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8th January 2007, 18:47	#8 (permalink)
nmanfield Megalegalegalegadingdong! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Odessa, Ukraine Posts: 329	Re: Larger Manifold Hi there, When I had a BOV for my Inspiration , I connected it directly to the Diluent first stage - no because there was no room on the manifold but I felt it cut out a couple of failure points. It fits, honest! Best of luck Nick __________________ Tub 'O Lard
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8th January 2007, 19:24	#9 (permalink)
nigelh New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brighton, Sussex, UK Posts: 836	Re: Larger Manifold Quote: (Originally Posted by Paul Brookes) having purchased a shiny new BOV for my inspiration classic, I now have an issue in that there are no available dil ports on my manifold. I know I should have thought about this when I decided on the BOV, but hey... Have you missed the one on the end? Or have they done away with it. There should be enough.... __________________ nigelh
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Amarok New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Alberta Canada Posts: 76	Re: Larger Manifold There should be one on the end ( dil side) - is on my Vision - use a standard omniswivel and hose to QD before BOV. Cheers
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