Counterlung attachment

aki · 7th January 2007, 18:35

I've being thinking of somehow attaching my counterlungs directly to hogarthian harness, so that they'd be easy to take off for cleaning etc. purposes.

I've being thinking of two choises, which one is to have quick release attached to both harness and CL and the other is to use velcro stuff.

I'm interested to know how other people have done this. I've seen quick releases used in way that one would still use the complete countrlung thingie and just add quick releases between the CL's and the thing that attaches to the to the back (don't know how to describe this better, but hope you'll understand). I've also seen pictures where one would route the harness thru straps on the CL, but I think that limits the access to the D-rings on the harness a bit.

***Decodiver*** · 7th January 2007, 19:07

Aki,

Here is what I use.

One for each counterlung.

If you speak to Nicky at APD I am sure they will make them up for you.

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

aki · 7th January 2007, 19:30

Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver)

Aki,

Here is what I use.

One for each counterlung.

If you speak to Nicky at APD I am sure they will make them up for you.

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

Dave,

This is similar what I used to attach the counterlungs to the waist belt, thus I used the metal thingies from Tobin. I eventually moved back to attaching the counterlungs from bottom with a bungee loop thru the scrotch strap. What I'm now looking for is how to attach them from top.

decoweenie · 7th January 2007, 19:49

Quote: (Originally Posted by aki)

What I'm now looking for is how to attach them from top.

Use the same thing but slot the QC thru the 2 slots where the single piece of webbing bent over the backplate to go over your shoulder. But you need the female QC installed on top of the CL.

That's how the previous owner of the Meg I just bought use to attach the neoprene CL to the backplate.

**davepinchin** · 7th January 2007, 20:11

Aki,

I have mine similar to the others, using two counterlung attachments from divingniknaks and using the webbing from the crouch staps that came with the box:

Genesis · 7th January 2007, 20:31

I ran into the same thing while desiging the K1 and decided to use a couple of loops of cave line through the slots for the shoulder harness, on the outside.

I have a bolt snap tied on there that I then clip to the grommet in the C/L; with a fastex buckle already on the lung you could also use the other half of the fastex and a piece of 1" nylon strap instead, which would be a direct mate to what's already on the C/L.

wizbang · 8th January 2007, 02:51

I use the same as the big picture and I use rubber bands around them to help keep them snug tight. (not required just extra snuggness.

I thread the harness through the lungs and yes it most definetly limits access to the D rings for me. I have them below the lowest lung loop and all seems to be working fine so far. Both Staging as well as side mount.

Hope that helps.

jkaterenchuk · 8th January 2007, 03:05

Aki

Recently had my Inspo CL changed to be QC on the top. It took some time and patience to remove the CL from the fabric piece that bolts to the inspo case. It is sewn very well so a sharp tool is needed to cut the threads. Once removed a 1 inch fastex buckle and small piece of 1 in webbing was sewn to the top part of the CL. Of course great care is needed to ensure the CL does not get pierced by the sewing needle. The mating portion of the fastex buckle was then sewn with a piece of 1 in webbing to the fabric piece that bolt to the inspo. I suspect you could also sew the 1 in piece of webbing to the 2 in webbing on the harness. I just choose to sew it back to the original fabric piece.

Its now much easier to remove and clean the CL's but they still block the chest D rings.

I did not do this myself but rather someone with a industrial sewing machine and more sewing skills do the work.

John

**PhilSiswick** · 8th January 2007, 13:30

Quote: (Originally Posted by jkaterenchuk)

Aki

Recently had my Inspo CL changed to be QC on the top. It took some time and patience to remove the CL from the fabric piece that bolts to the inspo case. It is sewn very well so a sharp tool is needed to cut the threads. Once removed a 1 inch fastex buckle and small piece of 1 in webbing was sewn to the top part of the CL. Of course great care is needed to ensure the CL does not get pierced by the sewing needle. The mating portion of the fastex buckle was then sewn with a piece of 1 in webbing to the fabric piece that bolt to the inspo. I suspect you could also sew the 1 in piece of webbing to the 2 in webbing on the harness. I just choose to sew it back to the original fabric piece.

Its now much easier to remove and clean the CL's but they still block the chest D rings.

I did not do this myself but rather someone with a industrial sewing machine and more sewing skills do the work.

John

Brent does a very neat conversion: General Rebreather Products and Services. I haven't spoken to him about it yet, but will almost certainly go down this route this year.

To address the problem of the chest D-rings, I bought a special D-ring from divingniknaks. I think that they come from the US originally. This has a slider that sits on the webbing, with a fixed D-ring on the side.

Cheers,

7th January 2007, 18:35	#1 (permalink)
aki Inspiration Vision Diver Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Stockholm. Sweden Posts: 117	Counterlung attachment I've being thinking of somehow attaching my counterlungs directly to hogarthian harness, so that they'd be easy to take off for cleaning etc. purposes. I've being thinking of two choises, which one is to have quick release attached to both harness and CL and the other is to use velcro stuff. I'm interested to know how other people have done this. I've seen quick releases used in way that one would still use the complete countrlung thingie and just add quick releases between the CL's and the thing that attaches to the to the back (don't know how to describe this better, but hope you'll understand). I've also seen pictures where one would route the harness thru straps on the CL, but I think that limits the access to the D-rings on the harness a bit. __________________ May the sorb be with you
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7th January 2007, 19:30	#3 (permalink)
aki Inspiration Vision Diver Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Stockholm. Sweden Posts: 117	Re: Counterlung attachment Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver) Aki, Here is what I use. One for each counterlung. If you speak to Nicky at APD I am sure they will make them up for you. Cheers, Dave Cooper. Dave, This is similar what I used to attach the counterlungs to the waist belt, thus I used the metal thingies from Tobin. I eventually moved back to attaching the counterlungs from bottom with a bungee loop thru the scrotch strap. What I'm now looking for is how to attach them from top. __________________ May the sorb be with you
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7th January 2007, 19:49	#4 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: Counterlung attachment Quote: (Originally Posted by aki) What I'm now looking for is how to attach them from top. Use the same thing but slot the QC thru the 2 slots where the single piece of webbing bent over the backplate to go over your shoulder. But you need the female QC installed on top of the CL. That's how the previous owner of the Meg I just bought use to attach the neoprene CL to the backplate. __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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7th January 2007, 20:31	#6 (permalink)
Genesis Bubbless Box of Death Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sunny Florida Posts: 1,453	Re: Counterlung attachment I ran into the same thing while desiging the K1 and decided to use a couple of loops of cave line through the slots for the shoulder harness, on the outside. I have a bolt snap tied on there that I then clip to the grommet in the C/L; with a fastex buckle already on the lung you could also use the other half of the fastex and a piece of 1" nylon strap instead, which would be a direct mate to what's already on the C/L. __________________ "A venturesome minority will always be eager to get off on their own, and no obstacles should be placed in their path; let them take risks for Godsake, let them get lost, sunburnt, stranded, drowned, eaten by bears, buried alive under avalanches - that is the right and privilege of any free American." http://www.denninger.net http://www.diversunion.org/liability.htm - Fix the Diving Cert racket
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8th January 2007, 02:51	#7 (permalink)
wizbang WEB MERMEN Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Vision Evolution Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth Australia Posts: 386	Re: Counterlung attachment I use the same as the big picture and I use rubber bands around them to help keep them snug tight. (not required just extra snuggness. I thread the harness through the lungs and yes it most definetly limits access to the D rings for me. I have them below the lowest lung loop and all seems to be working fine so far. Both Staging as well as side mount. Hope that helps.
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8th January 2007, 03:05	#8 (permalink)
jkaterenchuk . Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lititz, PA Posts: 1,041	Re: Counterlung attachment Aki Recently had my Inspo CL changed to be QC on the top. It took some time and patience to remove the CL from the fabric piece that bolts to the inspo case. It is sewn very well so a sharp tool is needed to cut the threads. Once removed a 1 inch fastex buckle and small piece of 1 in webbing was sewn to the top part of the CL. Of course great care is needed to ensure the CL does not get pierced by the sewing needle. The mating portion of the fastex buckle was then sewn with a piece of 1 in webbing to the fabric piece that bolt to the inspo. I suspect you could also sew the 1 in piece of webbing to the 2 in webbing on the harness. I just choose to sew it back to the original fabric piece. Its now much easier to remove and clean the CL's but they still block the chest D rings. I did not do this myself but rather someone with a industrial sewing machine and more sewing skills do the work. John
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8th January 2007, 13:30	#9 (permalink)
PhilSiswick Phil Siswick, Tango Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 1,062	Re: Counterlung attachment Quote: (Originally Posted by jkaterenchuk) Aki Recently had my Inspo CL changed to be QC on the top. It took some time and patience to remove the CL from the fabric piece that bolts to the inspo case. It is sewn very well so a sharp tool is needed to cut the threads. Once removed a 1 inch fastex buckle and small piece of 1 in webbing was sewn to the top part of the CL. Of course great care is needed to ensure the CL does not get pierced by the sewing needle. The mating portion of the fastex buckle was then sewn with a piece of 1 in webbing to the fabric piece that bolt to the inspo. I suspect you could also sew the 1 in piece of webbing to the 2 in webbing on the harness. I just choose to sew it back to the original fabric piece. Its now much easier to remove and clean the CL's but they still block the chest D rings. I did not do this myself but rather someone with a industrial sewing machine and more sewing skills do the work. John Brent does a very neat conversion: General Rebreather Products and Services. I haven't spoken to him about it yet, but will almost certainly go down this route this year. To address the problem of the chest D-rings, I bought a special D-ring from divingniknaks. I think that they come from the US originally. This has a slider that sits on the webbing, with a fixed D-ring on the side. Cheers, __________________ Phil (WSKD 0001) I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 The person who gets the farthest is generally the one who is willing to do and dare. The sure thing boat never gets far from shore. Charles A. Lindbergh www.hugsac.org.uk
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