Worthington Cylinders?

Jason Blackwell · 23rd November 2006, 03:29

Has anyone tried the Worthington 13 cubic foot (High Pressure) steel cylinders in the Evolution case? If so, how does it fit?

Cheers Jason

dgschott · 23rd November 2006, 07:35

Hi Jason. We looked at using the Worthington High Pressure cylinders for our Megs.... Thought they had great dimensions, bouyancy characteristics, etc... The only problem is that to get a full fill (Whether it's 13 or 19 cubic feet), you need to have someone pumping High pressure O2. You're not going to be able to get boosted O2 easily everywhere you go - If it's not an issue for you - ie - if your shop or you do it your self and you're not going anywhere, no big deal - but if you're traveling with them at all - there are a lot of places that won't or can't boost O2 to 3400 or above, where as with the low pressure cylinders, it's pretty easy to get a 2600 or above fill on O2....

It was just something that I hadn't though of until later on during the cylinder search and figured I'd share - As to the sizes, I believe there are pretty good and reliable size charts out there that will let you compare cylinders.

Best Regards,

Quote: (Originally Posted by Jason Blackwell)

Has anyone tried the Worthington 13 cubic foot (High Pressure) steel cylinders in the Evolution case? If so, how does it fit?

Cheers Jason

Jason Blackwell · 23rd November 2006, 22:07

Hi David, thanks for your reply, you see you see this is my dilemma:

Here in Oz we have been unable to source “Australian Approved” cylinders to fit in the Evolution case. Now within the last couple of weeks I have been approached by 2 separate suppliers (one Faber, and one Worthington). Both will finally be able to supply Aussie approved cylinders of the same water capacity.

The thing is …..Australia is SO small in this market we do not need two suppliers individually importing 2L steel cylinders specifically for the Evolution CCR. Hence my question whether the Worthington 2L will even fit into the case of the Evo.

So, has anyone even tried it?

Cheers Jason.

Yellow box of doom · 5th December 2006, 14:02

Jason, you say:

"Here in Oz we have been unable to source “Australian Approved” cylinders to fit in the Evolution case."

Does this mean the standard cyclinders which are shipped with the Evo are not permitted in Oz? I ask this with some concern as my Evo is being delivered in March and I am then planning to move to Perth in June next year. If I can't use the yellow box I ain't coming, and that's all there is to it!!

***Beanie*** · 5th December 2006, 14:10

Quote: (Originally Posted by Jason Blackwell)

Hi David, thanks for your reply, you see you see this is my dilemma:

Here in Oz we have been unable to source “Australian Approved” cylinders to fit in the Evolution case. Now within the last couple of weeks I have been approached by 2 separate suppliers (one Faber, and one Worthington). Both will finally be able to supply Aussie approved cylinders of the same water capacity.

The thing is …..Australia is SO small in this market we do not need two suppliers individually importing 2L steel cylinders specifically for the Evolution CCR. Hence my question whether the Worthington 2L will even fit into the case of the Evo.

So, has anyone even tried it?

Cheers Jason.

the worthington 3 is the same size as the faber 3
based on I've seen a classic inspo shipped with worthington 3l

i guess you have not got the specs of both?

O.C.Diver · 5th December 2006, 14:25

Worth noting:

The Worthington 13 has a listed capacity of 16.2 cuft. at 3,443 psi according to the USA distributor Sea Pearls. That is still almost 12 cuft. at 2,500 psi for the pressure challenged fill stations.

Ted

leadking · 5th December 2006, 21:47

Quote: (Originally Posted by Jason Blackwell)

Has anyone tried the Worthington 13 cubic foot (High Pressure) steel cylinders in the Evolution case? If so, how does it fit?

Cheers Jason

They will not fit in an Evolution case.

Lee

Jason Blackwell · 11th December 2006, 08:03

Quote: (Originally Posted by leadking)

They will not fit in an Evolution case.

Lee

Hi Lee,

First up, THANK YOU for donating the 20kg of sorb at the RBW party, unfortunately I could not bring it home to OZ, but I believe it may have found a use by now.

Secondly, I was trying to chase down these details on the tanks at DEMA, but you were almost impossible to catch up with!!!! thanks for the clarification.

Cheers Jason

Jason Blackwell · 11th December 2006, 08:08

Quote: (Originally Posted by still bubbling for now)

Jason, you say:

"Here in Oz we have been unable to source “Australian Approved” cylinders to fit in the Evolution case."

Does this mean the standard cylinders which are shipped with the Evo are not permitted in Oz? I ask this with some concern as my Evo is being delivered in March and I am then planning to move to Perth in June next year. If I can't use the yellow box I ain't coming, and that's all there is to it!!

Unfortunately......you are correct! the standard UK cylinders are not approved

BEFORE your unit is shipped from the factory, CALL me, maybe something can be worked out.

Cheers Jason

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23rd November 2006, 07:35	#2 (permalink)
dgschott Liquid Productions, LLC Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aston, PA Posts: 115	Re: Worthington Cylinders? Hi Jason. We looked at using the Worthington High Pressure cylinders for our Megs.... Thought they had great dimensions, bouyancy characteristics, etc... The only problem is that to get a full fill (Whether it's 13 or 19 cubic feet), you need to have someone pumping High pressure O2. You're not going to be able to get boosted O2 easily everywhere you go - If it's not an issue for you - ie - if your shop or you do it your self and you're not going anywhere, no big deal - but if you're traveling with them at all - there are a lot of places that won't or can't boost O2 to 3400 or above, where as with the low pressure cylinders, it's pretty easy to get a 2600 or above fill on O2.... It was just something that I hadn't though of until later on during the cylinder search and figured I'd share - As to the sizes, I believe there are pretty good and reliable size charts out there that will let you compare cylinders. Best Regards, Quote: (Originally Posted by Jason Blackwell) Has anyone tried the Worthington 13 cubic foot (High Pressure) steel cylinders in the Evolution case? If so, how does it fit? Cheers Jason __________________ David Schott Liquid Productions, LLC
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23rd November 2006, 22:07	#3 (permalink)
Jason Blackwell Bloody Rebreathers! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima Dolphin Ray Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Vision Evolution Classic Kiss Dolphin Ray Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Brisbane, Queensland, AUSTRALIA Posts: 364	Re: Worthington Cylinders? Hi David, thanks for your reply, you see you see this is my dilemma: Here in Oz we have been unable to source “Australian Approved” cylinders to fit in the Evolution case. Now within the last couple of weeks I have been approached by 2 separate suppliers (one Faber, and one Worthington). Both will finally be able to supply Aussie approved cylinders of the same water capacity. The thing is …..Australia is SO small in this market we do not need two suppliers individually importing 2L steel cylinders specifically for the Evolution CCR. Hence my question whether the Worthington 2L will even fit into the case of the Evo. So, has anyone even tried it? Cheers Jason. __________________ Jason Blackwell TDI Instructor Trainer #1358 Optima...Inspiration/Evolution...KISS...and what is next??? www.divedivedive.com.au OZTeK '09 March 2009 Sydney, Australia www.diveoztek.com.au
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Yellow box of doom ex "still bubbling for now" Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: dubai Posts: 31	Re: Worthington Cylinders? Jason, you say: "Here in Oz we have been unable to source “Australian Approved” cylinders to fit in the Evolution case." Does this mean the standard cyclinders which are shipped with the Evo are not permitted in Oz? I ask this with some concern as my Evo is being delivered in March and I am then planning to move to Perth in June next year. If I can't use the yellow box I ain't coming, and that's all there is to it!!
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5th December 2006, 14:10	#5 (permalink)
*Beanie* Gallery Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,292	Re: Worthington Cylinders? Quote: (Originally Posted by Jason Blackwell) Hi David, thanks for your reply, you see you see this is my dilemma: Here in Oz we have been unable to source “Australian Approved” cylinders to fit in the Evolution case. Now within the last couple of weeks I have been approached by 2 separate suppliers (one Faber, and one Worthington). Both will finally be able to supply Aussie approved cylinders of the same water capacity. The thing is …..Australia is SO small in this market we do not need two suppliers individually importing 2L steel cylinders specifically for the Evolution CCR. Hence my question whether the Worthington 2L will even fit into the case of the Evo. So, has anyone even tried it? Cheers Jason. the worthington 3 is the same size as the faber 3 based on I've seen a classic inspo shipped with worthington 3l i guess you have not got the specs of both? __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk
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O.C.Diver Helium Addict Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Salisbury MD USA Summers; Wandering Florida Winters Posts: 241	Re: Worthington Cylinders? Worth noting: The Worthington 13 has a listed capacity of 16.2 cuft. at 3,443 psi according to the USA distributor Sea Pearls. That is still almost 12 cuft. at 2,500 psi for the pressure challenged fill stations. Ted __________________ Consider this my opinion.......sometimes I'm even right, but remember.........YMMV. Ted Green Charter Boat "OC Diver" http://www.ocdiver.com
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5th December 2006, 21:47	#7 (permalink)
leadking New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 57	Re: Worthington Cylinders in the Evo case? Quote: (Originally Posted by Jason Blackwell) Has anyone tried the Worthington 13 cubic foot (High Pressure) steel cylinders in the Evolution case? If so, how does it fit? Cheers Jason They will not fit in an Evolution case. Lee
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Jason Blackwell Bloody Rebreathers! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima Dolphin Ray Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Vision Evolution Classic Kiss Dolphin Ray Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Brisbane, Queensland, AUSTRALIA Posts: 364	Re: Worthington Cylinders in the Evo case? Quote: (Originally Posted by leadking) They will not fit in an Evolution case. Lee Hi Lee, First up, THANK YOU for donating the 20kg of sorb at the RBW party, unfortunately I could not bring it home to OZ, but I believe it may have found a use by now. Secondly, I was trying to chase down these details on the tanks at DEMA, but you were almost impossible to catch up with!!!! thanks for the clarification. Cheers Jason __________________ Jason Blackwell TDI Instructor Trainer #1358 Optima...Inspiration/Evolution...KISS...and what is next??? www.divedivedive.com.au OZTeK '09 March 2009 Sydney, Australia www.diveoztek.com.au
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Jason Blackwell Bloody Rebreathers! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima Dolphin Ray Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Vision Evolution Classic Kiss Dolphin Ray Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Brisbane, Queensland, AUSTRALIA Posts: 364	Re: Worthington Cylinders? Quote: (Originally Posted by still bubbling for now) Jason, you say: "Here in Oz we have been unable to source “Australian Approved” cylinders to fit in the Evolution case." Does this mean the standard cylinders which are shipped with the Evo are not permitted in Oz? I ask this with some concern as my Evo is being delivered in March and I am then planning to move to Perth in June next year. If I can't use the yellow box I ain't coming, and that's all there is to it!! Unfortunately......you are correct! the standard UK cylinders are not approved BEFORE your unit is shipped from the factory, CALL me, maybe something can be worked out. Cheers Jason __________________ Jason Blackwell TDI Instructor Trainer #1358 Optima...Inspiration/Evolution...KISS...and what is next??? www.divedivedive.com.au OZTeK '09 March 2009 Sydney, Australia www.diveoztek.com.au
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