Cracked handsets again

onthetrain · 17th November 2006, 13:54

Hi,
I have just bought a classic inspo and am doing my mod 1course at the moment. Having read a the threads about All these cracked handsets I confess I'm more than a little worried I know my unit was back at AP earlier this year for a service so I presume my handsets are fine. It seems beyond credibility that so many units could have suffered cracked handsets. It has to be a design fault and if that is the case surely Ap should be issueing a recall and fixing the problem for free.

I wonder if the freedom of information act could be used to get Ap to release the figures on the exact number of units that have suffered this problem?

Views anyone?

Alan

ccr_ada · 17th November 2006, 14:38

Whats all this about cracked handsets ?

I've had my unit ages with no cracked handsets!

But it has never been back to the factory

is the something in that ?

I'm a bit worried about the green bits where everyone gets cracks i get green crust inside my handsets

**PhilSiswick** · 17th November 2006, 15:10

Quote: (Originally Posted by onthetrain)

I wonder if the freedom of information act could be used to get Ap to release the figures on the exact number of units that have suffered this problem?

Views anyone?

Alan

Isn't the FOI Act only for government disclosures? Even if you do manage to find a way to get a request in under FOI, it'll just be denied as it would be commercially sensitive.....

Cheers,

Dave Crampton · 17th November 2006, 15:26

Quote: (Originally Posted by PhilSiswick)

Isn't the FOI Act only for government disclosures? Even if you do manage to find a way to get a request in under FOI, it'll just be denied as it would be commercially sensitive.....

Cheers,

The freedom of infomation act was introduced to allow information held about you by a public body, to be obtained by you. I.e, if your employer is a public body, i.e. the department of health then if they hold any info about you, you are entitled to see a copy of all the info held, in what ever format it is contained for a nominal fee - usually £10. i.e. if you leave your building at a given time one day and are captured on CCTV which is recorded you have a right to obtain a copy. The same applied to all records in any format which are held about you. This allpies only to Public Bodies and not private companies.

You can not use it to obtain information about anyone else. Also you can not use it for force a private company to give up any infomation held about any products which you may have obtained which were originally manufactured by the company.

See the following link:

Freedom of Information Act 2000

**PhilSiswick** · 17th November 2006, 15:47

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Crampton)

The freedom of infomation act was introduced to allow information held about you by a public body, to be obtained by you. I.e, if your employer is a public body, i.e. the department of health then if they hold any info about you, you are entitled to see a copy of all the info held, in what ever format it is contained for a nominal fee - usually £10. i.e. if you leave your building at a given time one day and are captured on CCTV which is recorded you have a right to obtain a copy. The same applied to all records in any format which are held about you. This allpies only to Public Bodies and not private companies.

You can not use it to obtain information about anyone else. Also you can not use it for force a private company to give up any infomation held about any products which you may have obtained which were originally manufactured by the company.

See the following link:

Freedom of Information Act 2000

As I suspected.

Thanks,

17th November 2006, 13:54	#1 (permalink)
onthetrain New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: POOLE Posts: 62	Cracked handsets again Hi, I have just bought a classic inspo and am doing my mod 1course at the moment. Having read a the threads about All these cracked handsets I confess I'm more than a little worried I know my unit was back at AP earlier this year for a service so I presume my handsets are fine. It seems beyond credibility that so many units could have suffered cracked handsets. It has to be a design fault and if that is the case surely Ap should be issueing a recall and fixing the problem for free. I wonder if the freedom of information act could be used to get Ap to release the figures on the exact number of units that have suffered this problem? Views anyone? Alan
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17th November 2006, 15:10	#3 (permalink)
PhilSiswick Phil Siswick, Tango Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 1,062	Re: Cracked handsets again Quote: (Originally Posted by onthetrain) I wonder if the freedom of information act could be used to get Ap to release the figures on the exact number of units that have suffered this problem? Views anyone? Alan Isn't the FOI Act only for government disclosures? Even if you do manage to find a way to get a request in under FOI, it'll just be denied as it would be commercially sensitive..... Cheers, __________________ Phil (WSKD 0001) I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 The person who gets the farthest is generally the one who is willing to do and dare. The sure thing boat never gets far from shore. Charles A. Lindbergh www.hugsac.org.uk
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17th November 2006, 15:26	#4 (permalink)
Dave Crampton CK #051 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bury St Edmunds, UK Posts: 278	Re: Cracked handsets again Quote: (Originally Posted by PhilSiswick) Isn't the FOI Act only for government disclosures? Even if you do manage to find a way to get a request in under FOI, it'll just be denied as it would be commercially sensitive..... Cheers, The freedom of infomation act was introduced to allow information held about you by a public body, to be obtained by you. I.e, if your employer is a public body, i.e. the department of health then if they hold any info about you, you are entitled to see a copy of all the info held, in what ever format it is contained for a nominal fee - usually £10. i.e. if you leave your building at a given time one day and are captured on CCTV which is recorded you have a right to obtain a copy. The same applied to all records in any format which are held about you. This allpies only to Public Bodies and not private companies. You can not use it to obtain information about anyone else. Also you can not use it for force a private company to give up any infomation held about any products which you may have obtained which were originally manufactured by the company. See the following link: Freedom of Information Act 2000 Last edited by Dave Crampton : 17th November 2006 at 15:33.
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17th November 2006, 15:47	#5 (permalink)
PhilSiswick Phil Siswick, Tango Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 1,062	Re: Cracked handsets again Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Crampton) The freedom of infomation act was introduced to allow information held about you by a public body, to be obtained by you. I.e, if your employer is a public body, i.e. the department of health then if they hold any info about you, you are entitled to see a copy of all the info held, in what ever format it is contained for a nominal fee - usually £10. i.e. if you leave your building at a given time one day and are captured on CCTV which is recorded you have a right to obtain a copy. The same applied to all records in any format which are held about you. This allpies only to Public Bodies and not private companies. You can not use it to obtain information about anyone else. Also you can not use it for force a private company to give up any infomation held about any products which you may have obtained which were originally manufactured by the company. See the following link: Freedom of Information Act 2000 As I suspected. Thanks, __________________ Phil (WSKD 0001) I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 The person who gets the farthest is generally the one who is willing to do and dare. The sure thing boat never gets far from shore. Charles A. Lindbergh www.hugsac.org.uk
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