Reg recommendations for bailout ??

ajmtucke · 15th September 2006, 09:52

inspo classic

Wot are you guys using for bailout regs.

I was thinking of adding one to the O2 onboard and have heard of people using TX40s, xdeco or cyklons, but i thought the Cyklons ran at a higher interstage pressure ??? so wouldn't that mess about with the original Apeks first stage

wot about off-board bailout regs. I am currently using MK2s/R380s which seem to be doing the job ok at the moment for air and 75% on 3s or 5s mouted on the box, but any suggestions ??

I was thinking of adding an extra autoair hose on the bailout tins which could be plumbed straight into the autoair, but was also thinking that if the brown stuff hit the turbine i might not have time to find the off-board hose and swap them over

any ideas

cheers

ash

***EBT*** · 15th September 2006, 10:25

If you're diving saltwater, a cyklon makes a bad idea for a bailout.

The inner carriage assembly/poppet for the 2nd stage seat is VERY prone to salt water corrosion, unless you're obsessive about your fresh water rinses after each dive.

The ATX series are nice, small and simple.

***Beanie*** · 15th September 2006, 10:32

Quote: (Originally Posted by EBT)

The ATX series are nice, small and simple.

Yep just be careful how you stage mount them, will post a picture of my ATXs exhast valve later

I have er lots of apeks regs TX40s TX50s ATX100s

USTs DSTs DS4s I like my apeks regs

ajmtucke · 15th September 2006, 11:25

Yeah I was thinking of an ATX100 after reading the WR1 report where Pascal used them on open circuit to 330m !!

ash

shaun · 15th September 2006, 14:32

On my inspo I uses 2 offboard tanks 4l
one is diluent calculated on your MOD (but most of the time 21%) and this is fitted with a scubapro G250 on a mkII
the other is O2 at 89% and this is fitted with a aqualong 2nd stage on a posseidon 1st stage
advantage is the amount of bailout and I hardly have to carry extra weights
They are side mounted with the metal-sub adapters

aki · 15th September 2006, 17:06

I have 3x ATX50's as bailout regs, 1x onboard and 2x offboard. I like them as they're really simple and easy to maintanance.

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Aki

Philippe GERIN · 15th September 2006, 17:20

Quote: (Originally Posted by ajmtucke)

wot about off-board bailout regs.
any suggestions ??
cheers
ash

I use Apeks ATX50/DST for everything except 100% O2 where I use an OMS "workhorse reg" that's also used as part of the non-rebreather mask in my O2 surface safety kit.
I'm pretty happy about that set up.
Best
Philippe

Explorer · 15th September 2006, 17:51

Quote: (Originally Posted by ajmtucke)

Yeah I was thinking of an ATX100 after reading the WR1 report where Pascal used them on open circuit to 330m !!ash

Go with the ATX200's for second stage. DS4 for first. Have half a dozen of these and never had probs with them.

Nicholas von Rosen · 15th September 2006, 18:24

For onboard O2 I use a Apeks TX 40
For bail out reg I use a mix of Mares MR 22 1. stage/abyss second stage and Apeks TX 40.

I trust my Mares 100 %, - and the Apeks 98 %

Nick

Drmike · 16th September 2006, 00:02

Quote: (Originally Posted by ajmtucke)

inspo classic

Wot are you guys using for bailout regs.

I was thinking of adding one to the O2 onboard

Only mickey mouse divers have 2nd stages coming off their small onboard O2s.

Its not a good idea. Adds risk/additional failure.

Just carry sensible off board bail out gas. Keep Rebreather gas and bail gas seperate.

15th September 2006, 09:52	#1 (permalink)
ajmtucke New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hereford, UK Posts: 84	Reg recommendations for bailout ?? inspo classic Wot are you guys using for bailout regs. I was thinking of adding one to the O2 onboard and have heard of people using TX40s, xdeco or cyklons, but i thought the Cyklons ran at a higher interstage pressure ??? so wouldn't that mess about with the original Apeks first stage wot about off-board bailout regs. I am currently using MK2s/R380s which seem to be doing the job ok at the moment for air and 75% on 3s or 5s mouted on the box, but any suggestions ?? I was thinking of adding an extra autoair hose on the bailout tins which could be plumbed straight into the autoair, but was also thinking that if the brown stuff hit the turbine i might not have time to find the off-board hose and swap them over any ideas cheers ash
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15th September 2006, 10:25	#2 (permalink)
*EBT* Apprentice Luddite Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK, Brighton Posts: 2,056	Re: Reg recommendations for bailout ?? If you're diving saltwater, a cyklon makes a bad idea for a bailout. The inner carriage assembly/poppet for the 2nd stage seat is VERY prone to salt water corrosion, unless you're obsessive about your fresh water rinses after each dive. The ATX series are nice, small and simple. __________________ Eagles May Soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines! RBW Terms of service
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15th September 2006, 10:32	#3 (permalink)
*Beanie* Gallery Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,292	Re: Reg recommendations for bailout ?? Quote: (Originally Posted by EBT) The ATX series are nice, small and simple. Yep just be careful how you stage mount them, will post a picture of my ATXs exhast valve later I have er lots of apeks regs TX40s TX50s ATX100s USTs DSTs DS4s I like my apeks regs __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk
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15th September 2006, 11:25	#4 (permalink)
ajmtucke New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hereford, UK Posts: 84	Re: Reg recommendations for bailout ?? Yeah I was thinking of an ATX100 after reading the WR1 report where Pascal used them on open circuit to 330m !! ash
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15th September 2006, 14:32	#5 (permalink)
shaun New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kortrijk (Belgium) Posts: 46	Re: Reg recommendations for bailout ?? On my inspo I uses 2 offboard tanks 4l one is diluent calculated on your MOD (but most of the time 21%) and this is fitted with a scubapro G250 on a mkII the other is O2 at 89% and this is fitted with a aqualong 2nd stage on a posseidon 1st stage advantage is the amount of bailout and I hardly have to carry extra weights They are side mounted with the metal-sub adapters
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15th September 2006, 17:06	#6 (permalink)
aki Inspiration Vision Diver Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Stockholm. Sweden Posts: 117	Re: Reg recommendations for bailout ?? I have 3x ATX50's as bailout regs, 1x onboard and 2x offboard. I like them as they're really simple and easy to maintanance. -- Aki
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15th September 2006, 17:20	#7 (permalink)
Philippe GERIN ccr apprentice Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Strasbourg, France Posts: 647	Re: Reg recommendations for bailout ?? Quote: (Originally Posted by ajmtucke) wot about off-board bailout regs. any suggestions ?? cheers ash I use Apeks ATX50/DST for everything except 100% O2 where I use an OMS "workhorse reg" that's also used as part of the non-rebreather mask in my O2 surface safety kit. I'm pretty happy about that set up. Best Philippe
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15th September 2006, 17:51	#8 (permalink)
Explorer I will teach you a..... Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 780	Re: Reg recommendations for bailout ?? Quote: (Originally Posted by ajmtucke) Yeah I was thinking of an ATX100 after reading the WR1 report where Pascal used them on open circuit to 330m !!ash Go with the ATX200's for second stage. DS4 for first. Have half a dozen of these and never had probs with them. __________________ 20 dwarves, 20 dwarves, 20 dwarves took turns doing handstands on the carpet
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15th September 2006, 18:24	#9 (permalink)
Nicholas von Rosen Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Helsingoer, Denmark Posts: 151	Re: Reg recommendations for bailout ?? For onboard O2 I use a Apeks TX 40 For bail out reg I use a mix of Mares MR 22 1. stage/abyss second stage and Apeks TX 40. I trust my Mares 100 %, - and the Apeks 98 % Nick __________________ NICK
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16th September 2006, 00:02	#10 (permalink)
Drmike RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Ouroboros Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,335	Re: Reg recommendations for bailout ?? Quote: (Originally Posted by ajmtucke) inspo classic Wot are you guys using for bailout regs. I was thinking of adding one to the O2 onboard Only mickey mouse divers have 2nd stages coming off their small onboard O2s. Its not a good idea. Adds risk/additional failure. Just carry sensible off board bail out gas. Keep Rebreather gas and bail gas seperate. __________________ Cave diving is a sport Wreck diving is a sport Diving in general is a sport 'Rebreather diving' is not a sport its the delusional obsession with a highly dangerous and often inappropriate piece of equipment
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