Classic handsets

Mark Griffith · 10th September 2006, 11:03

Hi
I have a problem with the said handsets.The one i usually use as the slave has gone totally dead.It worked ok yesterday but now nothing,i have checked batteries and signs of damage.Can anyone suggest where to start to looking?
Many thanks
Mark

Ivon · 10th September 2006, 11:17

Hi Mark, have you recently removed the handset covers?

The magnets may not be aligning correctly to switch it on, give them a check.

Also check the contacts in the battery box.

After that I'm at a loss

It has not been bashed has it?

Ivon

Mark Griffith · 10th September 2006, 12:06

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ivon)

Hi Mark, have you recently removed the handset covers?

The magnets may not be aligning correctly to switch it on, give them a check.

Also check the contacts in the battery box.

After that I'm at a loss

It has not been bashed has it?

Ivon

HI Ivon
Looks like the battery box, i think?
thanks for the info
Mark

divetheworld · 10th September 2006, 21:51

Switch the handset on and hold the slider up to activate it while fookin about with the battery. Press it in repeatedly and wiggle it. If it sparks up momentarily then the battery connections are knackered. Take out the battery box and re-solder the wires on the back bit.

Job sorted.

Mark Griffith · 11th September 2006, 17:29

Quote: (Originally Posted by divetheworld)

Switch the handset on and hold the slider up to activate it while fookin about with the battery. Press it in repeatedly and wiggle it. If it sparks up momentarily then the battery connections are knackered. Take out the battery box and re-solder the wires on the back bit.

Job sorted.

Many thanks for the info.I spoke to AP today and they have reckon that is also the prob.
cheers
Mark

divetheworld · 12th September 2006, 00:14

To be honest, the Classic handsets suffer few problems on any frequency. Dont let the evil empire know I said this but I do have a soft spot for the classic controllers. They are not a dumb "bang-bang" controller and easy to use and maintain. Especially if you have fairly large testicles and are prepared to get out the soldering iron inside the handset area.
The problems usually encountered are;

Dying backlighting - No cure I'm afraid, only a replacement module at £168. Not worth it for just backlighting.

Battery terminals - Just need cleaning and sometimes re-soldering. No need to even send it in.

Molex connectors AKA "The black death" - copper oxides forming on the cable terminals and on the cell terminals. They just need either cleaning or re-terminating. I wouldnt send it in for this either, DIY jobs.

Dodgy power switch - Bad one this one. When the V3 switches go, they need some intricate attention. Not an easy fix because of the proximity of the potted parts and the way it is assembled but possible to DIY if your a clever clogs.

Cracked handsets - The handset is fooked. New module and new housing. Bummer, cost as above plus anything else you will need as a result of seawater in the loom.

hope that puts you at ease!!!!

Brent

Mark Griffith · 12th September 2006, 17:07

Quote: (Originally Posted by divetheworld)

To be honest, the Classic handsets suffer few problems on any frequency. Dont let the evil empire know I said this but I do have a soft spot for the classic controllers. They are not a dumb "bang-bang" controller and easy to use and maintain. Especially if you have fairly large testicles and are prepared to get out the soldering iron inside the handset area.
The problems usually encountered are;

Dying backlighting - No cure I'm afraid, only a replacement module at £168. Not worth it for just backlighting.

Battery terminals - Just need cleaning and sometimes re-soldering. No need to even send it in.

Molex connectors AKA "The black death" - copper oxides forming on the cable terminals and on the cell terminals. They just need either cleaning or re-terminating. I wouldnt send it in for this either, DIY jobs.

Dodgy power switch - Bad one this one. When the V3 switches go, they need some intricate attention. Not an easy fix because of the proximity of the potted parts and the way it is assembled but possible to DIY if your a clever clogs.

Cracked handsets - The handset is fooked. New module and new housing. Bummer, cost as above plus anything else you will need as a result of seawater in the loom.

hope that puts you at ease!!!!

Brent

Cheers Brent
Have soldered and resealed,seems to work fine now,will test on Sat.
Many thanks for your input.
cheers
Mark

10th September 2006, 11:03	#1 (permalink)
Mark Griffith New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Leeds UK Posts: 57	Classic handsets Hi I have a problem with the said handsets.The one i usually use as the slave has gone totally dead.It worked ok yesterday but now nothing,i have checked batteries and signs of damage.Can anyone suggest where to start to looking? Many thanks Mark
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Ivon Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hull, East Yorkshire, England Posts: 318	Re: Classic handsets Hi Mark, have you recently removed the handset covers? The magnets may not be aligning correctly to switch it on, give them a check. Also check the contacts in the battery box. After that I'm at a loss It has not been bashed has it? Ivon
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Mark Griffith New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Leeds UK Posts: 57	Re: Classic handsets Quote: (Originally Posted by Ivon) Hi Mark, have you recently removed the handset covers? The magnets may not be aligning correctly to switch it on, give them a check. Also check the contacts in the battery box. After that I'm at a loss It has not been bashed has it? Ivon HI Ivon Looks like the battery box, i think? thanks for the info Mark
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10th September 2006, 21:51	#4 (permalink)
divetheworld Dive porn pimp Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Classic Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Leeds, England Posts: 1,638	Re: Classic handsets Switch the handset on and hold the slider up to activate it while fookin about with the battery. Press it in repeatedly and wiggle it. If it sparks up momentarily then the battery connections are knackered. Take out the battery box and re-solder the wires on the back bit. Job sorted. __________________ Attitude and self praise is no reccomendation. Dont try to be a great man, just be a man and let history be the judge of you. *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *http://www.grpservices.com/pursuit/* Supporting Shearwater Research Products in Europe
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11th September 2006, 17:29	#5 (permalink)
Mark Griffith New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Leeds UK Posts: 57	Re: Classic handsets Quote: (Originally Posted by divetheworld) Switch the handset on and hold the slider up to activate it while fookin about with the battery. Press it in repeatedly and wiggle it. If it sparks up momentarily then the battery connections are knackered. Take out the battery box and re-solder the wires on the back bit. Job sorted. Many thanks for the info.I spoke to AP today and they have reckon that is also the prob. cheers Mark
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12th September 2006, 00:14	#6 (permalink)
divetheworld Dive porn pimp Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Classic Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Leeds, England Posts: 1,638	Re: Classic handsets To be honest, the Classic handsets suffer few problems on any frequency. Dont let the evil empire know I said this but I do have a soft spot for the classic controllers. They are not a dumb "bang-bang" controller and easy to use and maintain. Especially if you have fairly large testicles and are prepared to get out the soldering iron inside the handset area. The problems usually encountered are; Dying backlighting - No cure I'm afraid, only a replacement module at £168. Not worth it for just backlighting. Battery terminals - Just need cleaning and sometimes re-soldering. No need to even send it in. Molex connectors AKA "The black death" - copper oxides forming on the cable terminals and on the cell terminals. They just need either cleaning or re-terminating. I wouldnt send it in for this either, DIY jobs. Dodgy power switch - Bad one this one. When the V3 switches go, they need some intricate attention. Not an easy fix because of the proximity of the potted parts and the way it is assembled but possible to DIY if your a clever clogs. Cracked handsets - The handset is fooked. New module and new housing. Bummer, cost as above plus anything else you will need as a result of seawater in the loom. hope that puts you at ease!!!! Brent __________________ Attitude and self praise is no reccomendation. Dont try to be a great man, just be a man and let history be the judge of you. *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *http://www.grpservices.com/pursuit/* Supporting Shearwater Research Products in Europe
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12th September 2006, 17:07	#7 (permalink)
Mark Griffith New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Leeds UK Posts: 57	Re: Classic handsets Quote: (Originally Posted by divetheworld) To be honest, the Classic handsets suffer few problems on any frequency. Dont let the evil empire know I said this but I do have a soft spot for the classic controllers. They are not a dumb "bang-bang" controller and easy to use and maintain. Especially if you have fairly large testicles and are prepared to get out the soldering iron inside the handset area. The problems usually encountered are; Dying backlighting - No cure I'm afraid, only a replacement module at £168. Not worth it for just backlighting. Battery terminals - Just need cleaning and sometimes re-soldering. No need to even send it in. Molex connectors AKA "The black death" - copper oxides forming on the cable terminals and on the cell terminals. They just need either cleaning or re-terminating. I wouldnt send it in for this either, DIY jobs. Dodgy power switch - Bad one this one. When the V3 switches go, they need some intricate attention. Not an easy fix because of the proximity of the potted parts and the way it is assembled but possible to DIY if your a clever clogs. Cracked handsets - The handset is fooked. New module and new housing. Bummer, cost as above plus anything else you will need as a result of seawater in the loom. hope that puts you at ease!!!! Brent Cheers Brent Have soldered and resealed,seems to work fine now,will test on Sat. Many thanks for your input. cheers Mark
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