Valve to bailout to both Dil and O2 gas

Divejunkie · 10th August 2006, 11:51

Has anyone seen an integrated valve that can bail out to both Dil and O2 gases. There are some very interesting designs out there for the Dil, but what about both? Is there a reason why this hasn't been done?

**nigelh** · 10th August 2006, 12:48

Quote: (Originally Posted by Divejunkie)

Has anyone seen an integrated valve that can bail out to both Dil and O2 gases. There are some very interesting designs out there for the Dil, but what about both? Is there a reason why this hasn't been done?

Well I certainly wouldn't want a valve that could switch pure O2 down my neck at depth on the wrong click.

I have an Apeks TX40 on the O2 side but with a shutoff valve and a mouthpiece cover so if O2 gets into me that way it was pretty deliberate.

diverklondike · 10th August 2006, 13:19

I can plug 02 into my BOV via a QC connection like any other gas. For added safety I keep a Swagelok cover on the QC male connection from my 02 source to force an extra step in the process.

Dive Safe

Mark

Padowan · 10th August 2006, 13:19

Another consideration is that the more items you put on the O2 side of things, the more failure points you have - if you get a split in this hose to some sort of 2nd stage, you will lose ALL your O2, and then you're totally screwed for remaining CCR, unless you carry a redundant source.

I put one on, in the same method as Nigel, but took it off, as I felt it added more failure points than it gave me in benefits. I can always get onto O2 at 6m on the CCR assuming the loop in still intact - I decided that this was a safer option.

Sutty · 10th August 2006, 14:40

How about using the Aircon valve on this thread, with an extra 1st stage?

Neil

***EBT*** · 10th August 2006, 17:20

Theres always the KISS Snog valve, although I dont think Jetsam do them anymore.

10th August 2006, 11:51	#1 (permalink)
Divejunkie New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cumbria Posts: 29	Valve to bailout to both Dil and O2 gas Has anyone seen an integrated valve that can bail out to both Dil and O2 gases. There are some very interesting designs out there for the Dil, but what about both? Is there a reason why this hasn't been done?
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10th August 2006, 12:48	#2 (permalink)
nigelh New member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brighton, Sussex, UK Posts: 874	Re: Valve to bailout to both Dil and O2 gas Quote: (Originally Posted by Divejunkie) Has anyone seen an integrated valve that can bail out to both Dil and O2 gases. There are some very interesting designs out there for the Dil, but what about both? Is there a reason why this hasn't been done? Well I certainly wouldn't want a valve that could switch pure O2 down my neck at depth on the wrong click. I have an Apeks TX40 on the O2 side but with a shutoff valve and a mouthpiece cover so if O2 gets into me that way it was pretty deliberate. __________________ nigelh
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10th August 2006, 13:19	#3 (permalink)
diverklondike RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,699	Re: Valve to bailout to both Dil and O2 gas I can plug 02 into my BOV via a QC connection like any other gas. For added safety I keep a Swagelok cover on the QC male connection from my 02 source to force an extra step in the process. Dive Safe Mark
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10th August 2006, 13:19	#4 (permalink)
Padowan RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Exeter, UK. Posts: 524	Re: Valve to bailout to both Dil and O2 gas Another consideration is that the more items you put on the O2 side of things, the more failure points you have - if you get a split in this hose to some sort of 2nd stage, you will lose ALL your O2, and then you're totally screwed for remaining CCR, unless you carry a redundant source. I put one on, in the same method as Nigel, but took it off, as I felt it added more failure points than it gave me in benefits. I can always get onto O2 at 6m on the CCR assuming the loop in still intact - I decided that this was a safer option. __________________ Padowan The future's bright, the future's Yellow .....for now padowan.net - Latest Video: Scapa Flow Rebreather Diving
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Sutty Classic Kiss diver Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Glossop, Derbyshire, UK Posts: 815	Re: Valve to bailout to both Dil and O2 gas How about using the Aircon valve on this thread, with an extra 1st stage? Neil __________________ Never forget that life is a finite resource. Last edited by Sutty : 10th August 2006 at 17:16. Reason: Link wasn't working
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*EBT* Apprentice Luddite Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK, Brighton Posts: 2,057	Re: Valve to bailout to both Dil and O2 gas Theres always the KISS Snog valve, although I dont think Jetsam do them anymore. __________________ Eagles May Soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines! RBW Terms of service
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