replacement mouthpieces

windymiller · 3rd July 2006, 00:56

I have just been reading the thread regarding the replacement of the mouthpiece.

Is it still possible to replace the stock mouthpiece with one of the scubapro comfy ones(cant quite remember what they re called!) I have a spare one and wondered it it was possible to use that one?

Thanks

zmcave · 3rd July 2006, 04:48

Quote: (Originally Posted by windymiller)

Is it still possible to replace the stock mouthpiece with one of the scubapro comfy ones(cant quite remember what they re called!) I have a spare one and wondered it it was possible to use that one?

I guess it depends on how narrow the bite of the scubapro mouthpiece is.
The Evo manual (pg 134) doesn't encourage changing if it's too narrow as it will increase WOB.

Zé.

Nicholas von Rosen · 3rd July 2006, 05:47

Quote: (Originally Posted by windymiller)

I have just been reading the thread regarding the replacement of the mouthpiece.

Is it still possible to replace the stock mouthpiece with one of the scubapro comfy ones(cant quite remember what they re called!) I have a spare one and wondered it it was possible to use that one?

Thanks

I use a Apeks mouthpiece... - And have no problems with that... (not even when I have to work hard...)

The standart mouthpice makes me wanna throw up

Nick

colinicky · 3rd July 2006, 05:53

Why do you want/need to change the mouth piece ?
I "need " to change mine on my vision as the standard one leaks where my lips will not seal properly (have tried 3 other inspo's with same results so it is me

) I would stress ** try it in the pool first **after changing the mouthpiece ,I changed mine on Saturday inbetween dives with the result that a minor irritation became a serious problem at 30m when everytime I breathed all that could be heard was a constant booming noise .The new mouthpiece leaked a 100 times worse than the original and within 15mins had filled the exhale lung & put 3 inchs of water into my canister.

So please be carefull .

cramerdn · 1st March 2008, 02:06

Quote: (Originally Posted by colinicky)

Why do you want/need to change the mouth piece ?
I "need " to change mine on my vision as the standard one leaks where my lips will not seal properly (have tried 3 other inspo's with same results so it is me

) I would stress ** try it in the pool first **after changing the mouthpiece ,I changed mine on Saturday inbetween dives with the result that a minor irritation became a serious problem at 30m when everytime I breathed all that could be heard was a constant booming noise .The new mouthpiece leaked a 100 times worse than the original and within 15mins had filled the exhale lung & put 3 inchs of water into my canister.

So please be carefull .

What brand was the replacement mouthpeice? ( I know its a realy old thread, so I don't expect an answer)

I am looking at the aqualung/apeks comfort fit mouth piece as well. Is the AP position that their wider one is the only one to use based on thats all they have tested and used in the CE certification process?

What should I look for in my test dives to figure out if its working well or going to kill me?

colinicky · 1st March 2008, 07:44

Quote: (Originally Posted by cramerdn)

What brand was the replacement mouthpeice? ( I know its a realy old thread, so I don't expect an answer)

I am looking at the aqualung/apeks comfort fit mouth piece as well. Is the AP position that their wider one is the only one to use based on thats all they have tested and used in the CE certification process?

What should I look for in my test dives to figure out if its working well or going to kill me?

It was the Apeks one that I changed to & leaked even worse

. I have actually gone back to the original mouthpiece & now I do not have so much of a problem . I think that as time goes on from qualifying you gradually start to relax instead of hanging onto the mouthpiece for all you are worth & therefore your lips are more relaxed & seal better . But then I could be talking absolute b******s

**NEDIVER** · 3rd March 2008, 05:32

Quote: (Originally Posted by cramerdn)

I am looking at the aqualung/apeks comfort fit mouth piece as well.

I have used the the aqualung comfort fit mouth piece on my OC and it still gives me some discomfort and pain. I am finicky with my jaw after years of abuse in the kickboxing ring. So the comfobite could be great for some. I finally justified the price to pay $40 bucks for a mouth piece and went with a SeaCure on OC. I could not be happier!!!!! You mold it just like a mouth guard and there is almost no effort to retain.

There was a recent thread on this subject on a different forum. From my understanding, if you decide to go with the SeaCure, you will need to first mold the bite side. Then take out the yellow plug and dip in the side that they say not to mold. Then slide that on the loop and it cools and forms a perfect seal. I have not personal experience, but plan on performing the above procedure.

hope that helps.

tekdiver170 · 3rd March 2008, 18:28

If you're mounting the Sea Cure just be careful not to over strech when you're putting it on or it will not stay on. Took me two tries. The secret is not to use too much heat. If you get it just warm enough to go on it will work perfectly, if you get it hot it overexpands in a matter of seconds.

Best adjustment I ever did to the unit.

Campbell · 18th March 2008, 22:15

I used to suffer with jaw ache with the standard inspo mouthpiece so decided to change it for a new one.

It was a mould-able one, you dunk it in hot water and then bite on it to mould to your teeth. It's really good on OC but when I had to do some hard work on the unit at 35M and I really struggled catching my breath.

Maybe it was psycological (?) but I changed it immediatly, since have had hard work at 50M+ with no issues.

Wish the people who made the mouldable mouthpiece would make one with a deeper bite - I'd buy one in an instant!!!

Hmm, might mail them to see actually!

John

colinicky · 19th March 2008, 08:57

Your other choice could be to try a Mantabite ,these are massive because you fit the flaps inbetween your lips/cheeks & your teeth . Padowan has one & lasst I heard was very happy with it ,I tried one & hated it

3rd July 2006, 00:56	#1 (permalink)
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3rd July 2006, 04:48	#2 (permalink)
zmcave www.rebreather.com.br Current Rebreather/s: Optima Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Optima Dolphin Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Brazil Posts: 189	Re: replacement mouthpieces Quote: (Originally Posted by windymiller) Is it still possible to replace the stock mouthpiece with one of the scubapro comfy ones(cant quite remember what they re called!) I have a spare one and wondered it it was possible to use that one? I guess it depends on how narrow the bite of the scubapro mouthpiece is. The Evo manual (pg 134) doesn't encourage changing if it's too narrow as it will increase WOB. Zé.
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3rd July 2006, 05:47	#3 (permalink)
Nicholas von Rosen Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Helsingoer, Denmark Posts: 151	Re: replacement mouthpieces Quote: (Originally Posted by windymiller) I have just been reading the thread regarding the replacement of the mouthpiece. Is it still possible to replace the stock mouthpiece with one of the scubapro comfy ones(cant quite remember what they re called!) I have a spare one and wondered it it was possible to use that one? Thanks I use a Apeks mouthpiece... - And have no problems with that... (not even when I have to work hard...) The standart mouthpice makes me wanna throw up Nick __________________ NICK
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3rd July 2006, 05:53	#4 (permalink)
colinicky RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: uk Posts: 678	Re: replacement mouthpieces Why do you want/need to change the mouth piece ? I "need " to change mine on my vision as the standard one leaks where my lips will not seal properly (have tried 3 other inspo's with same results so it is me ) I would stress try it in the pool first after changing the mouthpiece ,I changed mine on Saturday inbetween dives with the result that a minor irritation became a serious problem at 30m when everytime I breathed all that could be heard was a constant booming noise .The new mouthpiece leaked a 100 times worse than the original and within 15mins had filled the exhale lung & put 3 inchs of water into my canister. So please be carefull . __________________ Colin I trust my rebreather completely , I just don't trust the user onwards & downwards
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1st March 2008, 02:06	#5 (permalink)
cramerdn Obey my dog! Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Townsville QLD Posts: 719	Re: replacement mouthpieces Quote: (Originally Posted by colinicky) Why do you want/need to change the mouth piece ? I "need " to change mine on my vision as the standard one leaks where my lips will not seal properly (have tried 3 other inspo's with same results so it is me ) I would stress try it in the pool first after changing the mouthpiece ,I changed mine on Saturday inbetween dives with the result that a minor irritation became a serious problem at 30m when everytime I breathed all that could be heard was a constant booming noise .The new mouthpiece leaked a 100 times worse than the original and within 15mins had filled the exhale lung & put 3 inchs of water into my canister. So please be carefull . What brand was the replacement mouthpeice? ( I know its a realy old thread, so I don't expect an answer) I am looking at the aqualung/apeks comfort fit mouth piece as well. Is the AP position that their wider one is the only one to use based on thats all they have tested and used in the CE certification process? What should I look for in my test dives to figure out if its working well or going to kill me? __________________ "Its better to live one day as a tiger than an entire life as a worm." "But who's ever heard of a worm skin rug?" Last edited by cramerdn : 1st March 2008 at 02:08.
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1st March 2008, 07:44	#6 (permalink)
colinicky RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: uk Posts: 678	Re: replacement mouthpieces Quote: (Originally Posted by cramerdn) What brand was the replacement mouthpeice? ( I know its a realy old thread, so I don't expect an answer) I am looking at the aqualung/apeks comfort fit mouth piece as well. Is the AP position that their wider one is the only one to use based on thats all they have tested and used in the CE certification process? What should I look for in my test dives to figure out if its working well or going to kill me? It was the Apeks one that I changed to & leaked even worse . I have actually gone back to the original mouthpiece & now I do not have so much of a problem . I think that as time goes on from qualifying you gradually start to relax instead of hanging onto the mouthpiece for all you are worth & therefore your lips are more relaxed & seal better . But then I could be talking absolute b******s __________________ Colin I trust my rebreather completely , I just don't trust the user onwards & downwards
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3rd March 2008, 05:32	#7 (permalink)
NEDIVER Sic Semper Tyrannis Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nashua, NH Posts: 200	Re: replacement mouthpieces Quote: (Originally Posted by cramerdn) I am looking at the aqualung/apeks comfort fit mouth piece as well. I have used the the aqualung comfort fit mouth piece on my OC and it still gives me some discomfort and pain. I am finicky with my jaw after years of abuse in the kickboxing ring. So the comfobite could be great for some. I finally justified the price to pay $40 bucks for a mouth piece and went with a SeaCure on OC. I could not be happier!!!!! You mold it just like a mouth guard and there is almost no effort to retain. There was a recent thread on this subject on a different forum. From my understanding, if you decide to go with the SeaCure, you will need to first mold the bite side. Then take out the yellow plug and dip in the side that they say not to mold. Then slide that on the loop and it cools and forms a perfect seal. I have not personal experience, but plan on performing the above procedure. hope that helps. __________________ -Tom- "slow is smooth, and smooth is fast" TM "Insanity is repeating the same thing over and over again, expecting different results" Albert Einstein
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3rd March 2008, 18:28	#8 (permalink)
tekdiver170 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 88	Re: replacement mouthpieces If you're mounting the Sea Cure just be careful not to over strech when you're putting it on or it will not stay on. Took me two tries. The secret is not to use too much heat. If you get it just warm enough to go on it will work perfectly, if you get it hot it overexpands in a matter of seconds. Best adjustment I ever did to the unit. __________________ Diving is my therapy... keeps the voices in my head from getting louder. Good thing rebreathers have no bubbles, now I can hear them again. - Chris Liles www.oahuscubadiving.com www.hawaiitechnicaldivers.com
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18th March 2008, 22:15	#9 (permalink)
Campbell RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Portsmouth, UK Posts: 116	Re: replacement mouthpieces I used to suffer with jaw ache with the standard inspo mouthpiece so decided to change it for a new one. It was a mould-able one, you dunk it in hot water and then bite on it to mould to your teeth. It's really good on OC but when I had to do some hard work on the unit at 35M and I really struggled catching my breath. Maybe it was psycological (?) but I changed it immediatly, since have had hard work at 50M+ with no issues. Wish the people who made the mouldable mouthpiece would make one with a deeper bite - I'd buy one in an instant!!! Hmm, might mail them to see actually! John __________________
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19th March 2008, 08:57	#10 (permalink)
colinicky RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: uk Posts: 678	Re: replacement mouthpieces Your other choice could be to try a Mantabite ,these are massive because you fit the flaps inbetween your lips/cheeks & your teeth . Padowan has one & lasst I heard was very happy with it ,I tried one & hated it __________________ Colin I trust my rebreather completely , I just don't trust the user onwards & downwards
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